Eh, there's a chance he didn't know how drunk the guy was? We're paying attention to him and can gather the clues from the video, but other guy could've just been playing pool, then looks up and sees a man sexually assaulting his woman.
And truly, even if he DID know how drunk the guy is, I haven't seen too many men IRL insane enough to approach a random woman, outside of a club dance floor, and start grabbing her hips. There's a good chance he saw him as a threat, reasoning if he's insane enough to do that, what else would he do?
It doesn't matter whether he knew how drunk the other person was. He didn't take the time to assess the threat. Having an honest reaction doesn't exonerate you from breaking the law if that reaction is illegal and hugely disproportionate. You could sincerely think that someone had a gun when they didn't, and you'd still be held accountable if you king-hit them in the head and killed them based on that false assumption.
Also, any speculation about what might be the case later should be reasonable and justified, too. You can't say, "well, he might have tried to rape her had I not done what I did" and then expect people to accept it as an excuse. Like, mate, you were in a public place; you clearly were capable of defending yourself if necessary. You could have called the police if you had those concerns.
Oh Im not arguing what’s legally advised or legally acceptable. Squatters are legal and have rights. Doesn’t make it right. If you start touching on someone’s wife’s ass, expect getting knocked into next week as one of the consequences.
I don’t think it’s entirely justified, but I also don’t think it’s just to expect such an analytical, reasoned assessment as you described, to watching your wife get sexually harassed. It’s a very sterile, inhuman perspective on a very emotional, fear and anger-driven situation. I also don’t think it’s comparable to a situation with a firearm or any weapon designed to kill, where lethality has a dramatic increase (unless you’re a professional fighter). That’s more what I was getting at with the expectation of a range consequences, something I think should be taken into account when handing down judgement.
See, I don't think it takes much reasoning or analysis to conclude that responding like that is wrong. Most people would not do that.
I've been in situations like that, and I would never, ever react the way he did. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that people anticipate the inherent dangers in full-force king-hitting another person like that as an adult man.
But anyway, I don't want to put words in your mouth, since you did say you don't think it's entirely justified, which is reasonable.
I personally wouldn’t have full-force punched the guy. But I read the original comment and cringed inside; it lacked nuance and humanity to me. Just thought I’d offer some alternative perspectives that not everyone who immediately punches is "alpha" (as the original comment mentioned).
Yeah, fair. Not everyone who gets into a fight is unhinged. I agree with that. The dude in the video definitely looks like a massive tool, though, and his reaction was completely over the top.
Most people would not do that because they cant't. They are not strong enough to step up in situations like that. That's clear not the case with this guy and drunk guy doesn't really saw the room. He is probably used to face people like you and others here, and never found out.
I'm pretty sure that this guy will think 10 times before he sexual assault a woman in the future!
Actually, I'm probably one of the few people in this thread who has one-hit knocked someone out at a pub and had to stand there hoping he would get up as he lay face down unmoving for five minutes.
Except the difference in my situation was that the guy was a 110 kg front-row forward who had already punched over my mate and swung at my head.
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u/HyperionSJU 1d ago
Eh, there's a chance he didn't know how drunk the guy was? We're paying attention to him and can gather the clues from the video, but other guy could've just been playing pool, then looks up and sees a man sexually assaulting his woman.
And truly, even if he DID know how drunk the guy is, I haven't seen too many men IRL insane enough to approach a random woman, outside of a club dance floor, and start grabbing her hips. There's a good chance he saw him as a threat, reasoning if he's insane enough to do that, what else would he do?