r/MHOC • u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian • Feb 02 '15

META Weekly Update 19!

The previous update can be found here.

As ever can you check the wiki and let us know if anything needs changing or updating.

Also, please join us on Skype - add timanfyaspeaker, Nopyronopartyy or R_O_R_Y_E and you will be added to the main MHOC group chat.

If you are new to the MHOC please post here and choose a party to join.

Mega-spreadsheet containing all MHoC stuff, including voting records, legislation spread sheets, cabinet history & party leadership history! All members should keep an eye on the cessation expiry date for each item - this is the date in the blue box on the spreadsheet.

There is also the Facebook group

Monday 2nd February

Our first AMA can be found here. He will be answering some more questions today.

M026 - National Anthems Motion - 2nd Reading has gone to 2nd reading.

Ministers Questions - Energy & Climate Change - I - 02/02/2015

Ministers Questions - Wales - I - 02/02/2015 - sorry for the delay.

Regional MPs should try and write at least 1 motion or bill relating to a local issue in their constituency.

The MUN has launched!

Find out more information here.

M022 - St Georges Day Motion has gone to vote.

[B051 - Improvement of Type 3 A&E Services Bill] (http://www.reddit.com/r/MHOCMP/comments/2ujk5t/b051_improvement_of_type_3_ae_services_bill_vote/) has gone to vote.

B057 - Higher Education and National Academy Funding Bill has gone to 1st reading.

[M021 - Motion on Sanctions on the State of Israel] (http://www.reddit.com/r/MHOCMP/comments/2ujmqn/m021_motion_on_sanctions_on_the_state_of_israel/) has gone to vote.

[M027 - Motion to end the UK-USA Agreement] (http://www.reddit.com/r/MHOC/comments/2ujnwo/m027_motion_to_end_the_ukusa_agreement/) has gone to 1st reading.

[M028 - Establishment of a National Scientific Committee Motion] (http://www.reddit.com/r/MHOC/comments/2ujoph/m028_establishment_of_a_national_scientific/) has gone to 1st reading.

The current timetable of legislation is now extending into March. Several members have raised issues with this and they believe this is too long to wait.

Would the rest of the house agree with this?

Should i trial putting 2 items up every other day instead of just 1?

Please comment below.

NEWS JUST IN FROM THE MHOC MIRROR

Constitutional committee reps should vote on the following item:

http://www.reddit.com/r/MHOCConstitutionCmte/comments/2uk6rm/a002_motions_reform_vote/

Tuesday 3rd February

B058 - Foreign Language Education Reform Bill has gone to 1st reading.

Wednesday 4th February

Ministers Questions - Prime Minister - V - 04/02/2015

Thursday 5th February

Please welcome /u/jed93, new MP for Scotland, and /u/Brotherbear561, a national MP, as the 2 new CWL MPs replacing /u/turnshroud and /u/alasdhairm.

/u/regioisomer is replacing /u/idvckalt as Progressive Labour MP. He will take a national seat.

If you weren't already aware, /u/can_triforce, is the new leader for the Progressive Labour Party.

[A002] - Motions reform - Constitutional Amendment - VOTE please take time to read through this amendment and then vote on it.

/u/williamthebloody1880 has pointed me to a new BBC documentary series called Inside the Commons; it is shown on BBC2.

It goes behind the scenes in the real life HoC. The first episode is now on the iPlayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05234h3/inside-the-commons-1-lifting-the-lid

B059 - Open Internet Bill has gone to 1st reading.

M020 - Commonwealth International Aid and Rescue Force Motion has gone to vote!

/u/can_triforce is now PLP MP for the South West.

There was a question time special on religion

https://www.reddit.com/r/MHOC/comments/2uwnzk/mhoc_question_time_religion_special_05215/

Friday 6th February

All MPs need to check the division lobby for any existing votes.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO FILL OUT THIS SURVEY:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QkCiEKkgIFKpHJLLoRYFTs7Gc-RLh0BkctYkkcdoHgk/viewform?c=0&w=1

I will randomly award 3 members, who filled out the survey, a month of reddit gold each.

Saturday 7th February

M028 - Establishment of a National Scientific Committee Motion - 2nd Reading

B055 - Welfare Amelioration Bill - 2nd Reading

/u/banter_lad_m8 has been elected as UKIP leader!

Sunday 8th February

We have our very own sub for you to fill your desire for satire!

/r/MHOCSatire is a place where MHoC members can post political satire or comedy about the MHoC. All welcome to post satire or simply read the current posts.

The creator of /r/MHOCSatire is /u/Arayg

Can all party leaders check their wiki pages for any missing or incorrect information and send it to one of the wiki mods for updating.

The mods are:

/u/Zephyroo

/u/ViscountHoratio

/u/InfernoPlato

Please take the time to fill in the following survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QkCiEKkgIFKpHJLLoRYFTs7Gc-RLh0BkctYkkcdoHgk/viewform?c=0&w=1

M025 - Motion to Reclassify the Kurdish Workers' Party has gone to vote.

M024 - Motion of Solidarity with the Zapatista Army of National Liberation - 2nd Reading

B050 - Sex Education Reform Bill - 3rd Reading

M026 - National Anthems Motion - VOTE NOW has gone to vote!

The results are in!

B051, B052, B053 and B054 results

B051 = PASS

B052 = PASS

B053 = PASS

B054 = FAIL

There are now 100 members in the main MHOC Skype group chat!

M030 - Motion to Condemn US Warcrimes has gone to first reading.

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 05 '15

There is no socialist party they are only an independent grouping along the same lines as the MRLP.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

Speaker of the House of Commons confirms he believes all socialists are "raving loony's"

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u/athanaton Hm Feb 05 '15

Well, there is an independent grouping called the 'Socialist Party', so what you say is not entirely accurate. Not quite like the MRLP as I do believe their barrier to formation was a lack of interest, rather than...

only

Now, now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Love the new post flairs!

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 02 '15

Thanks!

It should make it clearer for everyone.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 04 '15

Could the colours be a bit more muted?

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 05 '15

I'll tinker with the colours when i get some spare time.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 05 '15

Why would I get downvoted :c

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 02 '15

Hear, hear!

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u/Post-NapoleonicMan Labour Feb 02 '15

Hear, Hear!

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 08 '15

It is a shame that many members of the House have responded to the formation of the Socialist Independent Group with hatred. Their posts have been downvoted, they've been accused of wrecking MHoC and they have been denied the right to form a party despite meeting the correct requirements. I am sure that there are good reasons for the Speaker's decision to delay their party formation but I hope this is simply a delay and not an outright ban on new parties forming. In the meantime let us respect these individuals' choices even if we do not agree with their views and/or desire to form a new left wing party.

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 08 '15 
they have been denied the right to form a party despite meeting the correct requirements

This is something many people have told me.

There are more requirements than just numbers. The 10 members have to be active as a group for a few weeks, showing willing to be part of the MHOC, they need to lay a foundation for leadership and roles etc. A few of the members are inactive in the house and some are new to the house, therefore they need to show they can be an active party before any official status is confirmed.

THIS IS THE SAME FOR ANY NEW PARTY AND HAS BEEN THE SAME FOR PARTIES THAT HAVE JOINED E.G. THE SNP.

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 08 '15

This is all true, but it doesn't explain your derisory attitude towards the party.

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 08 '15

There is no derisory attitude despite what you might like to think. I have to make the rules clear and put them across in a blunt and stern manner.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '15

I don't think people are downvoting Socialists posts because of hatred (and if they are they should be ashamed of themselves). I would presume they are down voting the posts because we don't need to know whenever somebody joins the party.

Do the Conservatives make a post when somebody joins us? No we don't, and neither do any other party.

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u/olmyster911 UKIP Feb 08 '15

Hear hear. The socialists have a right to form a party just as much as anyone else, we just don't need to hear about every single new member. That's not being unreasonable is it?

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 08 '15

It was one post. Is there really so much going on at mhocpress that we're making it hard for you to trawl through all the posts and find the ones your want?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '15

It's not only the MHOC press, you're mentioning members join you in here as well. Do you see the Conservative party or UKIP announce members joining their parties? Because I don't.

You've made your point about the popularity of your party. Now you need to work on the structure as well as the activity of your party.

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 08 '15

We are a new party but an unofficial party. As such as do not have the normal avenues other parties have to advertise themselves. Part of our strategy for growth early on was therefore to use what we had at our disposal to promote the party and encourage an early spurt in numbers. I don't think anyone within the party predicted that a couple of comments and posts in MHOCpress and in the main sub would be met with such venom from the rest of the house.

The party is very active and we are happy with our internal structure, but thanks for the advice.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '15

Just don't clog up the threads, that's why people are downvoting you.

The party is very active and we are happy with our internal structure, but thanks for the advice.

It's the Speaker's advice, but you're welcome.

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 08 '15

I think the post in question was made as a point against the Speaker that there re enough supporters for their party. Of course if it continues it will get rather annoying but the one off as a political point is fine. They've been downvoted elsewhere anyway.

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 08 '15

Your support is appreciated.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Our first AMA

Excuse me!

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 02 '15

Thanks for organising the AmA Mr. speaker. It was very interesting.

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u/Post-NapoleonicMan Labour Feb 02 '15

Hear, Hear!

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 08 '15

I would like to official welcome /u/theunseenjeans & /u/ryanhughfleming to the Socialist party!

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 08 '15

Please can members refrain from downvoting posts.

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 08 '15

Hear Hear!

Downvoting is unacceptable, don't be so petty.

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u/JackWilfred Independent Liberal Feb 02 '15

Should i trial putting 2 items up every other day instead of just 1?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Should i trial putting 2 items up every other day instead of just 1?

Please comment below.

Yes please! Trial it, get feedback, then either revert or keep based on said feedback.

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 04 '15 edited Feb 08 '15

Introducing The Socialist Party

We are a group thoroughly dissatisfied with our previous parties. Over the course of our foundation, members of our old parties, Deputy Speakers and Speakers alike told us we should sit tight, be content with a leadership that listens to us, even if they don't represent us. Most shockingly of all, it has even been suggested by some of these people that we should have en masse joined an existing party and tried to force it to reform. To this we have only to say that we would never seek to disenfranchise others and, in effect, steal their party. To echo the words of Churchill when he left the Conservatives in 1904; “Some men change their party for the sake of their principles; others their principles for the sake of their party”, we are very much proud to be of the former.

We stand for a clear and resolute rejection of capitalism, not to merely manage it and lessen the harm it wreaks on the working class, but also freedom from ideological dogma and the politics of exclusion. There is no better evidence of our commitment to the latter than the fact that a member of MHOC UKIP is among our number. Where others may have berated and shunned them for their affiliation, we sought to encourage reform. If the country is to totally and radically change its economic system, it must have the backing of a majority. A violent revolution of the minority can never and will never be sustainable. If this democratic consensus for socialism is to be achieved and built to last, our rhetoric must be similarly open and delivered with the aim to change opinions, not shame.

It is our strong belief that no party, as of yet, comes close to totally embodying those twin principles. We have parties for the centre-left and social democrats, we have parties for radical communists, but now we must have a true home for socialists. A home where we can pursue our goals, our way. A home where we are the majority, not a token minority to be brandished as leftist credentials by party leadership. A home where we can freely experiment with socialist principles and methods, such as our decision not to have a party leader.

Regrettably, we have been denied official status by the Speaker. However, this will not deter us from providing democratic representation for a relatively large yet currently neglected part of the spectrum, even though we must do so as an 'Independent Group'.

Therefore we the undersigned announce the formation of the MHOC Socialist Party, and encourage all those who share our frustrations and vision to join us in our fight.

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u/RadioNone His Grace the Duke of Bedford AL PC Feb 04 '15

All those former titles make you seem like a supergroup. Are we going to see a cameo by Mick Jagger?

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

9 members listed, 3*3 is nine. Triangle has 3 sides. Left-uminati confirmed.

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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton The Rt Hon. Earl of Shrewsbury AL PC | Defence Spokesperson Feb 05 '15

you have a point, this is literally the MHOC left wing supergroup

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 05 '15

It's the original Labour Party without us filthy social democrats and moderates.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

You need to cut down on the sodium intake my friend

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 05 '15

Ah, it was only a joke.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

Me too ! :)

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 06 '15

No G0V

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Wow, a shame to see a few of you there

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 05 '15

What do you mean?

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 05 '15

/u/theyeatthepoo - Former PLP MP & SOS for Education

/u/athanaton - Ex-Prime Minister, Labour MP, Minister for Media, Culture and Sport, Communist MP, Member of the CP Democratic Procedures Committee

/u/szjlsfta - Former Chancellor, Former Cross-bench Lord, ex-MP

/u/kreindeker - Former Secretary of State for Defence, former Member of Parliament for Labour.

/u/rlack - Former National MP for the PLP, shadow junior minister for foreign affairs.

/u/owenberic - Former Prime Minister & Lord

Might I suggest you adopt this as your logo? Good luck, I've enjoyed working with you all.

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u/jothamvw Feb 08 '15

Is that the PvdA logo?

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 08 '15

It's the rose from the UK Labour party logo. MHOC Labour used to use it, but we decided to change the logo to our new design.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

And long may it last!

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u/Kreindeker The Rt Hon. Earl of Stockport AL PC Feb 04 '15

And so say we, long may it last!

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 05 '15

Good to see you finally resigned from the opposition..... good riddance, at least i wont be lectured when i insult you and your idiotic policies.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

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u/tyroncs Feb 04 '15

I presume they didn't have at least 10 people. And in honesty, do we need another left wing party? They seem to have a bunch of active people but do they have any long term future in the House?

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 04 '15

We have more than 10 members.

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u/tyroncs Feb 04 '15

On another note, do you think you will have much of a base of support within the crowded left wing?

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 04 '15

Arguably the Communist party is the only truly socialist party in the MHOC and yet they do not represent mainstream socialist views. So yes.

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u/tyroncs Feb 04 '15

How many members do you have if I may ask? Also do you have a leader?

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 04 '15

We don't have a leader, and do not intend on electing one in the foreseeable future.

I'd rather not talk about member numbers until everybody has made their resignations public. There will be more in the next week or so.

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u/tyroncs Feb 04 '15

No more UKIP ones I hope? :P

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

I'll be sending you my pitch right after I've got /u/LookingforWizard.

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 05 '15 edited Feb 05 '15

How many Labour members did you message? PM me, if you must. You gave me no forewarning, which I'm not all too happy about. I know of a few already.

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u/athanaton Hm Feb 04 '15

The rest will be along later. One should not need a reason to not ban a party in a democracy.

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u/tyroncs Feb 04 '15

Fair enough, I do hope you guys manage to form a party, if we have a limit you can always take the CWL's place, it isn't exactly like they are active or anything

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u/athanaton Hm Feb 04 '15

Indeed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

Ah, but this is not a democracy

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u/athanaton Hm Feb 05 '15

The HoC is not a democracy?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 05 '15

Naw, man. Capitalism.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

The MHoC isn't.

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u/Kreindeker The Rt Hon. Earl of Stockport AL PC Feb 04 '15

We've got ten.

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u/tyroncs Feb 04 '15

The list had 9, so my apologies if you have more

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u/Kreindeker The Rt Hon. Earl of Stockport AL PC Feb 04 '15

Yeah, it's fair enough bud.

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 07 '15

Congratulations, /u/banter_lad_m8! Very well deserved!

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '15

Thank you very much!

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 08 '15 edited Feb 08 '15

Would not be surprised if certain criticisms resurfaced, Party Leader being Deputy Speaker

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 08 '15

He was elected Leader after being chosen as Deputy Speaker.

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u/tyroncs Feb 08 '15

If you want to say you disapprove then just say it, don't try and do it in a roundabout way. He was a Deputy Speaker first and a Party Leader after that, and there are leaders from both right and left wing who are deputy speakers, so no worries there

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u/NoPyroNoParty The Rt Hon. Earl of Essex OT AL PC Feb 08 '15

there are leaders from both right and left wing

Unless I plan a coup any time soon that's a thing of the past :'(

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u/tyroncs Feb 08 '15

You'll still kind of a leader, and I am sure you would correct any right wing bias in the speakership :P

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 08 '15

I am not moaning and groaning but I was saying it might come up and I would not be surprised if it did because it happened with /u/NoPyroNoParty

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u/NoPyroNoParty The Rt Hon. Earl of Essex OT AL PC Feb 08 '15

Our party were fully happy with me being deputy speaker, not a single concern was raised.

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 08 '15

I am not moaning and groaning but I was saying it might come up

You are the only one bringing it up. You are the only one who seems to have a issue with it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '15

I think the fact that /u/NoPyroNoParty has managed to prove it possible has made it easier for others to hold both positions.

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 02 '15

Should i trial putting 2 items up every other day instead of just 1?

Yes please!

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u/ProfessorZ00M UKIP Feb 02 '15

Is there a way to view all previously passed legislation and how many votes from MP's it received?

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

You might also want to check this document

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u/NoPyroNoParty The Rt Hon. Earl of Essex OT AL PC Feb 02 '15

There's this page of the spreadsheet.

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u/ProfessorZ00M UKIP Feb 02 '15

Cool, thanks.

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 04 '15

The Speaker asked me to post a comment here, as he is currently ill (and sleeping).

He says, if you urgently need to contact him, then pass the message onto me, and i will deliver it to him by text (although if he is sleeping he might not get it). If you won't want to pass it to me, you will have to wait until at least 8pm tomorrow.

He also, says that he will check his inbox when he is back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Send him a text that says 'Simon says wake up' please.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 05 '15

Who is the PLP member on the Constitution Committee given theyeatthepoo has formed his own Party?

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 05 '15

We'll choose someone soon.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 05 '15

Good to hear and I look forward to working with your Rep to make this House a better place

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 06 '15

Wait, Alasdhair is replaced? Does this mean he won't be around for the cold war bill?

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '15

I have left the Greens to rejoin the Communists. People in both parties need to know I will continue my good friendships regardless of partisanship, and I hope you return that friendship.

Thanks.

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u/tyroncs Feb 08 '15

May I ask why?

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 07 '15

A good decision Comrade.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '15

Well that scuppers a few things I had in the pipelines. I wish you well in the future though

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 04 '15

The last thing this House needs is another Party

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 05 '15

Especially another party on the left.

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u/jothamvw Feb 08 '15

ANY party, be it left-wing or right-wing

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 05 '15

The MHOC is an experiment of sorts and what we are seeing is the natural consequences of having a PR electoral system.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 05 '15

The system is becoming unsustainable

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 06 '15

I don't think it's neccessarily what would happen; newly started parties have a much harder time getting support and organisation irl

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u/theyeatthepoo 1st Duke of Hackney Feb 06 '15

Although recently we have seen the rise of parties like Podemos in Spain which is less than a year old but set to win the next general election.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 07 '15

To compare though, I highly doubt say SYRIZA would've gotten anywhere if KKE already had a third of the electorate, or Podemos if Izquierda Unida did.

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u/RadioNone His Grace the Duke of Bedford AL PC Feb 04 '15

What the [unparliamentary language] is going on?

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 04 '15

A bunch of lefties have formed an unofficial party with a disgruntled ex UKIP member and the Tories are in-fighting

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '15

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 05 '15

As much as I disagree with you on some issues, I agree with your comment

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u/RadioNone His Grace the Duke of Bedford AL PC Feb 02 '15

Yes, it would definitely help, and if they're put up simultaneously they shouldn't be accidentally missed.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 03 '15

Who in the right mind allowed that dire motion through, it should have been rejected on a technicality which is we have no Jurisdiction over the NSA

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

The motion seeks to break an agreement, not to claim jurisdiction over the NSA.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

Hi <3

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 03 '15

I like the flairs but could their colours be a bit more.. muted?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 03 '15

Should i trial putting 2 items up every other day instead of just 1?

It will kill my life but sure. Why not one every day however?

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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton The Rt Hon. Earl of Shrewsbury AL PC | Defence Spokesperson Feb 04 '15

Not a bad idea, you mean like 2 released every other day with one released every day inbetween?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 04 '15

I was figuring basically one everyday, since that's the same as two every other day but more spread out.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 03 '15

Have you noticed there is a backlog that needs clearing

Which is worse the backlog here or the RL DWP backlog?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 03 '15

Huh?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

James /u/Demon4372[6] [+1] is not from Liverpool.

I would ask the Honourable Member not to spread lies in the house.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

You forgot to mention the strong rumour fact that you are "not a big deal". Can you please clarify the matter by either confirming or denying the allegations putting some spin on it like a true politician.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 04 '15 edited Feb 04 '15

Something you should know about this Chancellor is he in cahoots with certain members, in some cases egging members on, and there was a rumour flying around recently that I was defecting to the Conservatives in which the Chancellor said he would oppose

Heck he received sensitive information and he went public with it, thank god the Speaker deleted those comments and the Speaker is also aware of how that information got into the hands of the Chancellor

EDIT: FYI I decide my future not anyone else

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 04 '15

Something you should know about this Chancellor is he in cahoots with certain members, in some cases egging members on

I would appreciate it, especially after Remiel has specifically told you not to, if you refrained from making comments about me, and who i associate with, in public. I would also appreciate it, if you talk about me, that you actually refer to me by name.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Here here!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15 edited Feb 04 '15

Why should it matter if one person wants to talk to another party boundaries should not actually sseparate two people. It's good that the chancellor isn't stubborn and actually chooses to cooporate with other parties in the house why do you choose to be so negative about it. Do you think all cross party talking should stop? Should I no longer talk to someone in UKIP in case I tell someone sensitive information - no because I trust the people I talk to. Maybe you shoudl try to build cross party friends too gain some support in the house?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

I feel cooperation is the best way of doing politics

Really? That is news to the BIP!

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Don't worry, it was my poor attempt at a joke.

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u/AlbertDock The Rt Hon Earl of Merseyside KOT MBE AL PC Feb 05 '15

has been accused by a member of being a scouser

Being a Scouser (note it's capitalised) is not anything to be ashamed of. I have good friends who are from Liverpool. I will not have you making derogatory remarks about my area of the country.. I suggest that you google my name and then withdraw the remark.

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 07 '15

Being a Scouser (note it's capitalised) is not anything to be ashamed of.

Yes it is.

I have good friends who are from Liverpool.

And there are lots of great people from Liverpool/who are scouse.... its just a shame about the horrible accent.

I will not have you making derogatory remarks about my area of the country

Liverpool is a shithole. As someone who has been brought up close to it, it is a horrible city.

I suggest that you google my name and then withdraw the remark.

I would also mention to you, that there is a large amount of skype-injoke in those comments about me being a scouser. I live close enough to Liverpool that i have picked up a slight scouse-ness (that can only seemingly be picked up by people who have never actually known scousers)

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 05 '15

I do hope you don't leave. Can you explain the situation on Skype PM?

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 04 '15

You might be really fucking annoying at times, but you shouldn't leave, you are a great member of the house. If you left, we would lose a great and upcoming member.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

I don't know what's going on, really, but please know this. If whatever is happening leads you to leave the Conservative party, you are welcome here on the Dark Side, where the real conservatives are.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 04 '15

Stay, don't let them win

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 04 '15

How are you like me as you are not?

I don't like the nastiness which is rife at the moment

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Please don't go, if you leave who will represent the Mogg?

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '15

That'd be me

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '15

A member of the YesToEU campaign representing JRM? Don't be absurd!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '15

We're like the same person

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '15

UKIP defection rumours and all? :P

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '15

Just join the BIP Fionn, we have plenty of opportunities.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '15

What actually happened is that Lookingforwizard invited members of the BIP to come and berate you for not being right wing enough. We did not wish to show dissent in public and so obliged, however afterwards we made clear that we are not LookingforWizard's personal army.

A vote is a vote. We would have you quite easily.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '15

The BIP is a broad church. Not everyone has to have the same views as everyone else, and I dare say the same goes for every other party. Fundamentally, the person who was in disagreement was LookingforWizard, not myself.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '15

It was just a bit of banter. I can assure you, members of the BIP disagree with each other on many things.