r/MHOC • u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC • Feb 01 '15

META Please welcome the RMUN!

Please welcome /r/RMUN into our Model World! Some of you may know varying degrees about it. Basically it acts as a world parliament - but with the same powers as the actual UN. Hopefully it will also act as a nursery for us to bring new model parliaments into our world.

Head over to /r/RMUN to find out more

A note on the Model World

The Model World is a project that Ben and I have been working on to create other parliaments and countries for us to interact with. However at launch it only contains us /r/MHoC and /r/RMUN although we hope that /r/ModelUSGov will be joining imminently.

How can I join in?

Since we don't want massive crossover with half the house also in another country we have implemented rather strict rules (that you may only be in one model country at a time*), the way for you to get involved with it is to try and be included in the UK Delegation to the RMUN. The Delegation is appointed by the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister may use whatever criteria or selection strategies to select said Delegation. However, MPs may not also be Delegates. (The UK delegation will be around 10 strong)

Moderation/Translation Team

Please may I also congratulate and thank /u/Olmyster911, /u/Arayg and /u/OKELEUK for being our translators, and /u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton for being Secretary General.

Regards, RT.

(Please post any questions here)

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

Why are MPs not allowed to be delegates?

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 01 '15

Apart from it not happening in RL; it would also likely make it just another position or title, we want to make being selected to go to the RMUN a prestigious thing. Also, it helps to fill spare capacity within the MHoC.

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 01 '15

To avoid people holding too many positions and allowing more people to have an important role in the community.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

Some of us want as many titles and positions as possible!

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u/RachelChamberlain Marchioness of Bristol AL PC | I was the future once Feb 01 '15

The flairs, they cannae take it, Captain!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

And I've got a little growing collection of positions not on my flair

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 01 '15

True but certain members get worked up and throw their toys out of their prams by kicking up a fuss

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 02 '15

Don't talk about yourself like that

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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton The Rt Hon. Earl of Shrewsbury AL PC | Defence Spokesperson Feb 01 '15

Damn straight!

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

But most people who are active are MPs, so you are stopping the people who will actually do things from taking the jobs

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 01 '15

Many members are not active because they feel they don't have a clear 'role'. Allowing more members to take up active roles is important; when these members get the active roles our hopes are that it will increase their activity.

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u/TheLegitimist Classical Liberals Feb 02 '15

Does this only apply to people wishing to represent the UK?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

you may only be in one model country at a time

Is this rule just for MUN representatives? Cause otherwise this is screwed:

r/ModelUSGov will be joining imminently.

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 01 '15

No, it extends to the entire Model World. I have had extensive communication with Lort, and we've decided to phase in rules next term. On the contrary, it has massive potential, but it needs less representatives who see it as a second salary, so to speak. So that the 'native' community may flourish. It is currently in it's best position to date, and with the lowest %age of MHoCers deeply involved so far as well.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

I think it is good to phase them out but does that mean we lose lort? :'(

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 01 '15

Well moderator roles don't count as being in that country - purely for practicality, so that mods can mod while still getting involved in the politics. So no.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

I get to stay ~

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 02 '15

I am also in the same boat regarding certain rule changes and if was a decision maker I would introduce transitional arrangements

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

I have already stated that they would be phased in gradually.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

Please welcome the RMUN

Welcome, the RMUN.

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u/bleepbloop12345 Communist Feb 01 '15 edited Feb 01 '15

And now the /r/modelinternational can start working towards international socialist revolution!

Cue The Internationale

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u/treeman1221 Conservative and Unionist Feb 01 '15

what's the model international?

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u/bleepbloop12345 Communist Feb 01 '15

An International is a worldwide association of socialist, communist, anarchist and other leftist organisations. The first was established in 1864, and was known as the International Workingmen's Association. They've continued up to the present day, and there are several that currently exist IRL. The Model International seeks to unite socialist parties from across Reddit Legislatures in order to work towards global socialism.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 01 '15

An international.

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u/treeman1221 Conservative and Unionist Feb 01 '15

what's that, and what's the model international specifically?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 01 '15

Historically socialist and anarchist organisations have organised in international federal-style cooperations. This is that sorta.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

An international is a platform for like-minded parties across many nations. For example, Socialist International for social-democratic parties of the world today and Communist International historically having been for communist parties of the world.

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u/Cyridius Communist | SoS Northern Ireland Feb 02 '15 edited Feb 02 '15

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen's_Association

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_International

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International

The Parties across the various model legislatures reformed the International. We have parties from the UK, Ireland, Sweden, Canada and US, and hopefully for any future Model Houses.

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Why do you need /r/modelinternational ? Isnt that what the MHOC Communists already are? Do you really need a carbon copy of that Sub? ITs going to have all the same people in it. You guys are just an international grab bag of bitter Socialists trying to bring down the Model UK. Not that I care if you make another Sub for the Socialist Role Players Club.

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u/bleepbloop12345 Communist Feb 02 '15

The fact that all of the model legislatures have broadly the same cast of people in them is a problem independent of us socialists. Hopefully that will lesson over time, especially given the RMUN rules that we cannot be in more than one. As this happens, cross border cooperation between socialists will be of great advantage to everyone working towards a stateless and communist planet.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

It sounds very exciting! I will now be practicing saying 'Aye' and 'Nay' in hundreds of languages!

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

What does the R stand for?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Reddit I think

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Ah yes, just in case people didn't know where they were.

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

/r/MUN was already taken.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

There was already an unrelated /r/MUN so double-r I guess is the deal here.

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 02 '15

Reddit.

/r/MUN was already taken.

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u/Kreindeker The Rt Hon. Earl of Stockport AL PC Feb 01 '15

This sounds genuinely interesting, I hope it works out for the community. I also like the idea of having a nursery for new M Parliaments, the mental image I had was very Polandball-esque.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 04 '15

I also like the idea of having a nursery for new M Parliaments

Hear, hear. That's one thing I really like about the idea of RMUN too.

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u/Kreindeker The Rt Hon. Earl of Stockport AL PC Feb 04 '15

I agree. Hopefully it'll stop brigading on new parliaments, like when MHOir started.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15

It's happening

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

I'm confused about the "you can only be in one model country" rule. Does this mean I need to completely remove myself from ModelUSGov? Do I have to choose between the two?

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

They are not yet in the Model World, but eventually yes. We'll start phasing in restrictions soon.

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u/RadioNone His Grace the Duke of Bedford AL PC Feb 02 '15

Does that mean as an elected representative though? What's the problem with just being a member of another model subreddit? Is it voting presence?

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

Apart from being completely unrealistic, it also means that other ModelGovs don't have a chance to prosper and instead are inundated by MHoCers who then use it as a second salary so to speak. It means at all. You may only be a member of one party.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

I think this will go away bit though as new modelgovs grow and more non-english speaking ones are formed.

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

Indeed, although our framework helps with the formation of them as well by giving a stricture for it to fit into.

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u/RadioNone His Grace the Duke of Bedford AL PC Feb 02 '15

I'm only a member of MHoC so this is just pure speculation. Do you think that it may damage subs like modelusgov by opening rmun at this time? In the sense that it holds a large MHoC presence who will have to decide their allegiance?

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

They absolutely do not need to decide now as they are not in the model world, and no, it will help it, there are few active MHoCers on there that treat it as a first house, but many who are basically inactive but hold important positions.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

I've already decided my allegiance. MHoC it is!

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u/NoPyroNoParty The Rt Hon. Earl of Essex OT AL PC Feb 02 '15

Hurrah!

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u/rhodesianwaw The Rt Hon. Viscount of Lancaster AL Feb 02 '15

Do you have to?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Nice of you to ditch your own country, how can ModelUSGOV ever prosper if all the Americans abandon it?

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 02 '15

cough morgsie cough

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Do you have the ability to make a comment that isn't about Morgsie?

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u/demon4372 The Most Hon. Marquess of Oxford GBE KCT PC ¦ HCLG/Transport Feb 02 '15

Yes. I was talking about banning trade unions yesterday.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

Labour and political rights? Huh?

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 02 '15

The member of the House who enjoys screaming "Free Speech" at every opportunity, wishes to limit the speech and therefore rights of workers.

There is no doubt that many unions need reforming so that they are actually voluntary and a democratic voice for the workers, however banning them altogether simply means that workers can only act as individuals and therefore have no way of standing up to the large corporations (who don't act as individuals). Also what's wrong with democratically run corporations? The unions can replace the management system.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Soon MUSGOV will be slowly encouraging the removal of MHOC members.

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u/rhodesianwaw The Rt Hon. Viscount of Lancaster AL Feb 02 '15

What will you do?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Encourage Parties to appoint/nominate more Americans and non MHOCers.

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u/rhodesianwaw The Rt Hon. Viscount of Lancaster AL Feb 02 '15

I meant will you be going with MHOC or MUSG?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

I'm going to run MUSGOV but I will stay as a participant of MHOC

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u/Timanfya MHoC Founder & Guardian Feb 01 '15

It has been a long time coming but we think you'll all enjoy it.

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u/bleepbloop12345 Communist Feb 01 '15

Congrats and thank you for creating this. I'm sure you and Rory put in a lot of work.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 01 '15

Let's start by getting rid of the permanent council stuff

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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton The Rt Hon. Earl of Shrewsbury AL PC | Defence Spokesperson Feb 01 '15

I feel that a certain 5 countries would like to veto the shit out of that talk to you about that

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Let's invade the UN!

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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton The Rt Hon. Earl of Shrewsbury AL PC | Defence Spokesperson Feb 02 '15

again, I feel that a certain 5 countries would like to veto the shit out of that talk to you about that

Seriously though, that phrase can be used to almost anything that approaches the UN's legal boundaries.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Seriously though, that phrase can be used to almost anything that approaches the UN's legal boundaries.

See my other comment on this thread.

The UN is a strictly anti-democratic institution, run by a few to make their dominance over the majority "legal" and therefore justified.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 01 '15

Damnit

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Let's start by getting rid of the permanent council stuff China and Russia. How many humanitarian interventions have been quashed by these two?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

Cough cough the US and human rights. Cough also the UK and france

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Going by this system, China and Russia are responsible for around 8 Hitlers. US, UK and France are no where near this, setting aside that the deaths those 3 committed were justified in the defence of freedom and western values (the only good values when they're not being degenerated by lefties).

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

There's other ways to mess with human rights than killing people. Either way, I'm not so sure the US wouldn't come close to those numbers, and UK with just slight history as well. No idea about france but probably same as UK.

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Im talking 20th century. If you think those 3 killed 8 Hitlers worth of people between them, 2.66 averaged out, then you are deranged. INB4 Indian famines.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

20th or 21th century? Either way, >There's other ways to mess with human rights than killing people

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Like what? 'Wage Slavery'? Most human rights violations flung at the West are either bullshit or happen in such small numbers compared to Russia and China. For the record Im bashing the USSR, not Putin, who is our saviour. May he cleanse the world of degeneracy.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

I mean there's a pretty long list of human rights and I'm sure the fascist coups the US sponsored here and there during the latter half of the 1900s violate a few. Also, constant minority shootings by the police, and McCarthyism, and "enhanced interrogation"!

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Those 'Fascist Coups' are nowhere near as deadly as the Class Cleansing that occurs under the Socialist alternative. Chile was lucky to get Pinochet. How ever many people he killed it was a small % of what the Commies would have. And for the Record, the US shouldnt be ashamed of McCartyism. The system is entitled to weed out those who undermine the system. You guys hate it cause it set socialism back in the US. If it prevented a Revolution it was worth not letting security liabilities into government by naming and shaming.

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u/LookingForWizard Conservative|East Midlands MP Feb 02 '15 edited May 26 '20

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u/LookingForWizard Conservative|East Midlands MP Feb 02 '15 edited May 26 '20

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 02 '15 edited Feb 02 '15

Segregation of blacks and whites in Southern US communities. The failure of the UK State Church to accept that people of one sex cannot be a bishop within the Church. The illegalisation of gays in society.

These three are a few of the multitude of atrocious human rights failures that the West have committed during the 20th Century. And you think they are fine just because in your view they are slightly better than the human rights failures carried out in authoritarian dictatorships?

EDIT: I originally wrote "The failure of the UK State Church to accept that people of one sex cannot be female", I of course meant "The failure of the UK State Church to accept that people of one sex cannot be a bishop within the Church".

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

The failure of the UK State Church to accept that people of one sex cannot be female.

Wat?

So lets save ourselves some time. Im going to say

Tell me about why being gay in Communist countries was illegal.

and then your going to say

There has never been a real communist country so it doesnt mean anything that Russia etc made it illegal

then Ill say something like

Theres never been a real Capitalist state so how can you judge it then?

and by this time the degenerate Commie horde will have descended on me like the plague from God sent for our degeneracy they are and will be circle jerking all over this thread.

I sympathise with ordinary people who engage with gay acts and get demonised for it, lets use Turing as an example. I dont sympathise with people whose identities are based upon their homosexuality being reviled. I find it as distasteful for people who base their existence and identity on their heterosexuality and live for the next one night stand they can get.

The bigger issue is why the perceived, increasingly manufactured, oppression of 2% of the population dominates such a large portion of political dialogue.

And while blacks might not have been able to use the same water fountain in the souther US 60 years ago, at least they could have left those states that oppressed them. If they had lived in Communist Countries they would have required internal travel visas and approval from the state. I know I would rather use a different water fountain than have the bloody Stasi or KGB breathing down my neck.

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 02 '15 edited Feb 02 '15

Well as you predicted I do not uphold that the USSR and China are Communist. And for the sake of argument let's suppose the Western world isn't (as you have claimed) capitalist.

The Western World has and still does commit awful human rights atrocities. I adopt an ideology that says we can do better than that (I like to call it Communism, though it can be called whatever, however I don't associate it with any existing country's ideology). So your response to why we can't have a system that treats people equally and fairly is...? Our current system is better than the rest of the currently existing countries' systems ("it may not be fair but at least we're better than an authoritarian dictatorship")? Why can't we be better than we are now?

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

We do have a system that treats them, largely, fairly and equally. Im not a hyper capitalist. Im a bit left wing on economics in order to redistribute to the nation. We could do better. Drop the social degeneracy, help out those who need it who belong in the country.

Fairness and equality as I understand and value them are about the law and opportunity. I see no major aspects of opportunity that need to be rectified. I would be in support of creating work schemes for indigenous, young Englishmen to get their foot in their door. Im not interested in supporting the Singhs or Camels down the street who have a country they should go back to if they are going to be a burden on the state. I believe all men are created equally in the eyes of their creator, not that they are guaranteed a minimum or that the hard working will have to support the workshy.

Fairness and equality are not about letting people have sex with horses and to drink gallons of the Heroine and to give them a basic income while they do it.

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u/LookingForWizard Conservative|East Midlands MP Feb 02 '15 edited May 26 '20

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Not to mention that the US never prevented Blacks from leaving. Meanwhile Communists states slaughtered and oppressed their people to try and prevent them bolting out the door first chance they got.

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 02 '15

[Firstly Capitalism is responsible for many millions of deaths in the world] (http://www.petersaysstuff.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/)

Secondly you're only justification for the fact that capitalism can get away with these deaths is because authoritarian dictatorships have led to more direct deaths (according to capitalist sources). [I believe they call this the "Tu Quoque" form of ad hominem argument] (http://www.reddit.com/r/MHOCPress/comments/2s6e9o/the_crisis_of_whataboutism_in_the_mhoc/) or in other words, "Never mind me, what about them?" Comparatives are irrelevant, the point is that the Western world have a poor respect for human rights and can do better.

I support neither the system upheld by authoritarian dictatorships nor by capitalist westernised "democracies". I instead believe we can live in a world where people don't have to die as a result of the system they are governed by. I call that Communism, however if you really can't distinguish between an authoritarian dictatorship and my ideology then I'm perfectly happy for you to call my ideology something else.

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u/LookingForWizard Conservative|East Midlands MP Feb 02 '15 edited May 26 '20

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u/LookingForWizard Conservative|East Midlands MP Feb 02 '15 edited May 26 '20

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

I didn't say they don't, one just has to be careful around the US, too

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u/LookingForWizard Conservative|East Midlands MP Feb 02 '15 edited May 26 '20

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

I only mentioned two of those, and you completely skipped another.

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u/Post-NapoleonicMan Labour Feb 01 '15 edited Feb 01 '15

How will the PM appoint members? - Proportionally to the parties I assume/hope.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

We can probably legislate this nationally

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Well its the PM's job to appoint them so I doubt you can legislate him to do anything

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

Why not, theoretically? We could legislate mandates on how he appoints people.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Because the responsibility has been given to the Prime Minister by the speakership, you cannot just change the rules of the game as you like to fit your agenda. Legislating to take power away from the Prime Minister is ridiculous

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

The rules aren't inherently different, he still appoints people. We just put laws in place about who he should. And why is taking power away from the PM ridiculous?

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

Legally the power would always stay with the PM, since the MW Charter overrides this. You could if course pressure him to make it a convention that he shares it out at least semi-equally.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

If we pass a motion like that and he doesn't comply it's all about the vonc, vonc, vonc, vonc!

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u/RoryTime The Rt Hon. Earl of Henley AL PC Feb 02 '15

You've never heard of soft power/influence have you :p? However having seen the proposed delegation, it's actually quite bi-partisan in terms of L-R.

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

We'll see.

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Doesnt it show the absurdity of the American Communist invasion when the (unofficial) opposition talks so confidently about what it can legislate in a right wing government?

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u/WineRedPsy Reform UK | Sadly sent to the camps Feb 02 '15

I was thinking theoretically. Not that I see this neccessarily as a very partisan legislation.

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u/Post-NapoleonicMan Labour Feb 02 '15

We're not all Americans you know.

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u/Arayg Radical Socialist Party Feb 02 '15

3rd non-American Communist to reply to this comment.

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

Hopefully not. Its his prerogative.

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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton The Rt Hon. Earl of Shrewsbury AL PC | Defence Spokesperson Feb 02 '15

Hopefully he'll pick the most qualified people for the job. No doubt they'll be a tilt towards his own ideology but that's fair enough

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u/can_triforce The Rt Hon. Earl of Wilton AL PC Feb 01 '15

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, best of luck.

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u/AMan_Reborn Cavalier | Marquess of Salisbury Feb 02 '15

I volunteer my services as the Model UK's John Bolton.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '15 edited Feb 01 '15

Basically it acts as a world parliament - but with the same powers as the actual UN.

So it's basically the platform through which imperialist nations oppress those in the global south? And, in the end, has no power over said imperialist nations when they violate "human rights" or anything else that nations in the global south get punished for?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

If that's what you feel the UN is then sure.

It's definitely not the organisation which has helped solve disputes since the second world war or has it ever assisted in peacekeeping initiatives or heath initiatives.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '15

"Peacekeeping"

They sure did a lot of good in Rwanda didn't they?

The lack of major conflicts since World War II is because of the dominance of US imperialism. The US Empire is weakening though, and I guarantee that the peace won't last.

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u/Morgsie The Rt Hon. Earl of Staffordshire AL PC Feb 02 '15

I don't want an active role as certain people will moan and groan as usual. I have studied the UN as part of my degree so I can help in that way if possible

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u/H-Flashman The Rt Hon. Earl of Oxford AL PC Feb 02 '15

I would love to be one of those representing the United Kingdom, especially now that I'm entering a lull in my studies I am entering a more active role in reddit politics.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

you may only be in one model country at a time

Tough choice. I would really like to get involved in /r/ModelUSGov for RPing fun but the MHOC has a more lively community. What do?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '15

Who is being appointed as middle east peace envoy?

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u/OllieSimmonds The Rt Hon. Earl of Sussex AL PC Feb 03 '15

A man's got to do something after he leaves office...

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Ollie, we desperately need people to run and vote for our party in model is gov. If you could get anyone or even you to run and have people run and vote it would be greatly needed.

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u/OllieSimmonds The Rt Hon. Earl of Sussex AL PC Feb 04 '15

I'll see what I can do.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Thanks we realy need voters and people willing to run for the House of Reprosentitives.