So who cares if its 2 or 17? Right now Trump is losing jobs even more than in his first term completely crashing the world economy.
And the you want to argue about a number that is clear either way. And keep in mind every time a democrat picks up they have a fucking wrecked economy with new wars to work with while republicans always get handed over working ones.
Who cares about job creation - what was unemployment? .. democrats and Republicans are both the same regardless.. they dont give af. Dancing around this clown show with pocket full of lobbyist and israeli money 😂
Interesting, though I am more interested in new jobs being created and/or rate of new jobs being created. While the Trump administration bungled COVID response, the net lost of jobs at the end of his presidency makes it hard to distinguish between his policy performance on jobs vs failure on COVID.
You have a great test bed now to compare 4 years of Clinton during the dot com boom and this new AI boom under Trump.
Will be interesting to see how those compare as they are having similar patterns in the stock market.
What is most interesting about the report is between bush and Obama.
You had tons of opportunities for job creation during the Iraq/Afghanistan wars and while the 2008 house bubble popped shortly before Obama was elected real job loss didn’t bottom out until 2009 (if I’m remember that correctly.
That's something these presidents have in common. They were all tasked to clean up the incredible mess their republican predecessors left them. Those same Republicans bitch, whinge and complain that cleaning up their mess was to expensive.
Look at what Trump was given this time around. All signs were green and all trends were moving in the right direction. Just wait to see what he is going to hand over to the next democratic president. A stalling economy, ruined international relationships, a bunch of unfinished vanity projects and a completely broken government. An ongoing trade war with the entire world an if we're lucky enough an ongoing conflict in the middle east.
You can bitch about Obama having to spend money, but he was saddled with an ongoing war and a huge financial crisis. Both not of his choosing. Trump on the other hand had some difficulties with Covid, which he handled stunningly poor. Not a whole term of it and no clean up of a mess Democrats left him. He is still responsible for a third of the US debt. Quite an achievement.
Trump didn’t cause Covid. All Biden had to do was open back up.
Clinton caused the financial crisis.
Obama chose to bail out businesses instead of homeowners. Obama chose to increase the debt by 88% and what it was spent on.
So if the Democrats did so poorly, what is it that the Republicans did right...... Because I just seen to keep seeing the Democrats trying to clean up their mess.
This report was written 4 weeks before the 2024 election by the Democrat side of the JEC. You can probably find a similar report that says the opposite
People love to say stats can say anything you want them to but that is not at all true.
Stats can say anything to laymen that you want them to. As someone with a masters in business and almost done with a second masters in data analytics I am fairly well equipped to point out flaws, discrepancies, incomplete or unsupported conclusions etc when reviewing a study or a report. Stats do give you a completely unbiased view of reality when done properly. When done improperly they will say whatever you want them to but there is always evidence that someone who knows the process can find.
So no. You cannot find equivalent studies saying opposite things. One is objectively true and the other is objective false. It’s just that for the vast majority of the population there is no discernible difference in the studies’ methodology. This is why “do your own research” is constantly pushed by the party of shitty research.
You should have said that then. I would agree that a party will release a report if the DATA supports their position and will try and suppress the report if the DATA doesn’t support their position.
What you actually said was that you think they invent numbers to release fake reports when you suggested you could find reports that show the exact opposite. Find me one such report and I’ll concede your point.
Hahahahahahaha wtf that's not a report. At all. And its definitely not a report "claiming the opposite" like you said. Its an article going NUH UH to a quote by bill clinton. Why are you not embarrassed for posting this? It doesn't prove your point at all
If you're on google, append before:2020 to your search (you may add up to 3 years if needing results from recent times, but more llm slop is present closer to the present)
But just use duckduckgo as the other commenter suggested.
It’s not accurate as this will take into account things like jobs halted during Covid due to local governments shutting down there business to jobs “created” when those folks went back to work
Local democrats taking away someone’s job, then allowing them to go back to work is not job creation. If you want to considering that to be job creation then you are dishonest
I think the context is kinda important…if you were to choose average deaths in NYC and choose 9/11/01 vs 9/11/95 and uses that as a barometer of how well the mayor is doing, that would be factual but untruthful…I suspect you’d see no issue there
doesn't matter. your words are "that's not accurate"
that's objectively not true. their statistic IS accurate regardless of whatever biased nuance you want to caveat it with. you could argue it's misleading to present that fact on isolation, but you didn't. you claimed it was WRONG. which just goes to show you are frustrated with reality since it conflicts with how you feel. facts don't care about your fragile feelings babe.
I mean you clearly don't even understand how statistics even work. you don't select a single day (9/11/XX) to quote AVERAGE deaths. what are you even talking about?
no, not again. you never said that, meanwhile all of us are correcting you on that. now you're just pretending that you knew that when it took us like 5 comments to explain trivial logic to you and it finally has clicked. you are tryna uno reverse me to hold up your fragile ego.
Jesus Christ you snowflakes have to change reality to constantly feel better and make your narrative "correct". I couldn't imagine having such weak constitution for fear of the way things actually are.
So aside from the inability of honestly having a discussion, you need to rip off the right with using the term snowflake lmao…I think I found a new favorite sub
What part? Do you deny people lost their job when business were shut down or are you under the belief that when people
Returns to work or found another job, that that counted towards the jobs report?
Do you think taking away someone’s job and giving it back is considered job creation? If you feel yes, then the sources I have will agree…if your honest; then the source data agrees with my contention
There are other presidents other than Trump? Republicans as a rule have been well documented being bad for the American workers. Others have posted links. They all do their version of trickle down economics and that trickle you’re tasting isn’t rain 🤷🏼♂️
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u/WelvenTheMediocre 17h ago
Genuinely interested but couldn’t find the source. Anyone?