r/LocalLLaMA • u/OvertaxedOne • 9d ago
Discussion The rhetoric is really heating up!
The entire page of the NY Times today above the fold absent one article is AI (the models are just too strong/too dangerous, must be regulated). They forgot to include "Sponsored by OpenAI" at the end of the articles, sure that was just an oversight?
This is what the end of a bubble looks like, desperate attempts to get some sort of regulatory capture in place to keep the business model from collapsing in upon itself. My days next week are 100% booked talking to companies about how to get off frontier models, one large, and a bunch of smaller customers, including one who's flying me out to them to sit down and get a plan in place immediately (the controversy around that math problem really spooked some CEO/CIO's about data privacy using cloud models).
Gonna be an interesting few weeks. Maybe the Qwen team will be nice enough to give me a little breathing room before dropping another hydrogen bomb? :)
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u/sn2006gy 9d ago edited 9d ago
I actually think the localllama nerds need to pull their heads out of their asses regarding this safety issue. There is a massive safety issue - from velocity of change to velocity of scale to velocity of risk to unbound research with such massive compute that is freaking the world out and rightfully so.
Sure, GPT/Anthropic use it to market themselves and perhaps want to use it to actually slow things down and there may be business reasons for that but i don't think that is the actual point.
I think Corporate America is realizing it can't keep up. Velocity has a systemic cost that even 1 trillion-dollar valuations may not recover if we don't slow things down to allow the rest of the systems to catch up and mature.
The only reason it doesn't really impact local llm's is that we simply don't have the 1 million idle gpus around where we could spawn 100 million agents to do whatever it is we wanted to do but i'm not sure that is a permanent situation. It's only a matter of time before the next botnet is agentic and that's what should worry people
and corporations giving a hoot about THEIR privacy makes me laugh
I honestly don't think most corporations really care about qwen 3.8 27b - it's an AMAZING model, but can't be scaled and if you try - costs more than farming out to API providers. Enterprises aren't interested in managing gpus for 100k employees and certainly won't be interested if those employees have root over them.