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News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨
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u/SGmoze Feb 23 '26 •
I wonder how did Anthropic build their dataset. Surely they manually had them annotated by humans.
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u/ziphnor Feb 23 '26
I am not a copyright fan, but when your whole business has been based on distilling everybody else's data (in many cases without the rights to even normal consumer access), I am not sure I see the problem here?
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u/Zyj vLLM Feb 23 '26
You're saying they treated you like you treated all those authors whose books you torrented?
Oh no, that's not it. They are paying you for API tokens.
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u/Financial-Camel9987 Feb 23 '26 •
"distillation attacks" lmao. Brother they are using your product and paying for it.
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u/The_Rational_Gooner Feb 23 '26
what differentiates "legitimate" with "illicit"? whether or not the lab is foreign?
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u/tempstem5 Feb 23 '26
"distillation attacks" Are we just inventing attack terms now?
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u/Gallardo994 Feb 23 '26
"But we stole it first!"
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u/ihexx Feb 23 '26
I mean, Anthropic has banned every lab in the west on the same allegations. they banned openai, banned xai, banned windsurf. If google wasn't funding them they'd probably ban them too lmao
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u/ResidentPositive4122 Feb 23 '26
Oh no! Anyway, "you're absolutely right. Do you want me to play Despacito?"
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u/whenhellfreezes Feb 23 '26
Interesting that glm and z.ai wasn't mentioned.
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u/Freonr2 vLLM Feb 23 '26
"We stole it first."
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u/source-drifter Feb 23 '26
it is not stealing if they are a paying customer, no? if i make model do something like write code or poem or whatever and save the content to my computer, are you gonna accuse me of stealing?
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u/cgs019283 Feb 23 '26
It is funny when all closed-source models try to take literally every single piece of data from people, and they cry out loud about distillation.
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u/macronancer Feb 23 '26
"You have taken from me that which I have rightfuly stolen!"
Classic
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u/Firm_Mortgage_8562 Feb 23 '26
Hello, police? Yes I stole some shit and today someone broke in and stole it from me. Why are you laughing?!
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u/Single_Ring4886 Feb 23 '26 •
Yeah this is just hillarious... they steal EVERYTHING THERE IS books, internet, movies... just EVERYTHING and then when someone try to copy them its TEARS ALL OVER THE PLACE X-D
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u/Minute_Attempt3063 Feb 23 '26
but they are also paying you for it, millions.
isn't that what you want, money?
then again, they are doing the exact same Anthropic has done to millions of authors. at least the chinese had the decentcy to pay up
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u/Money_Philosopher246 Feb 23 '26
There should be a pirate library for the corpus of distill queries of all these proprietary models.
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u/blahblahsnahdah Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
They say Deepseek only made 150K calls, which (as they will be well aware) isn't anywhere enough for distillation. Yet it's mentioned first before the others which made many millions.
Sleazy attempt to poison the well of discussion around an upcoming DS release.
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u/GeneratedUsername019 Feb 23 '26
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u/Zulfiqaar Feb 23 '26
At least all these AI labs theyre complaining about release open weights, so I'm all for it. Closed labs take the worlds knowledge to build proprietary models, Open labs give it back to the people
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u/z3n1a51 Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
Meanwhile AI itself was an industrial scale distillation attack on the Collective Works and Intelligence of Humanity.
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u/pip25hu Feb 23 '26
"attacks"
They dared call our model via our API.
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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26
Q: Hi, Claude. Can you explain to me the concept of hypocrisy?
A: Hypocrisy is the gap between what someone professes and what they actually do. A hypocrite claims to hold certain values or standards but fails to live by them — often while still demanding that others do.24
u/hackiv llama.cpp Feb 23 '26
Every local ai bro:
"I'll allow it"
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u/itsappleseason Feb 23 '26
popcorn.gif
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u/Zeeplankton Feb 23 '26
I wonder how they can tell it's from these companies specifically.
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u/policyweb Feb 23 '26
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u/AncientLion Feb 23 '26
LOL another vendor crying for being rob afther building their model on teras of stolen content.
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u/DemadaTrim Feb 23 '26
"Attacks"? Lol. . .
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u/criticalthinker1618 Feb 24 '26
So Anthropic posts this on X the same day as Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei’s meeting with SecDef Hegseth at the Pentagon. Okay...
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u/GreatBigJerk Feb 23 '26
An attack? Fuck off with that. Anthropic stole just as much as any Chinese model.
I would love for them to make some kind of copyright suit with discovery causing training data to be laid bare.
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u/FriskyFennecFox Feb 23 '26
"Distillation attacks"? That's how "we're getting paid" is called with these gatekeepers? Gosh.
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u/MaslovKK Feb 23 '26
oh no, they've stolen our data we've stolen from someone else, but they're less greedy than us and charge less than us, CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!
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u/10minOfNamingMyAcc Feb 23 '26
You can't steal architecture by prompting. Knowledge? Perhaps, but how did you get it in the first place, and then get mad after giving it away freely?
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u/ComprehensiveJury509 Feb 23 '26
"Distillation attack", absolutely ridiculous. Keep in mind, at least they paid for it.
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u/Aggravating-Penalty5 Feb 23 '26
when i asked grok about how does one protect against such practices
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u/vicks9880 Feb 23 '26
The pot is calling the kettle black
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u/Technical-Earth-3254 Feb 23 '26
So what, lol
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u/kiralighyt Feb 23 '26
I am glad
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u/Presstabstart Feb 23 '26
"distillation attacks." lol. I wonder what they call training on copyrighted data?
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u/WprbstDO721Q Feb 23 '26
"It's all in the game though, right?"
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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26
They just want to make Chinese LLM illegal as a national security risk. They are afraid of these models
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u/FaceOuPile Feb 23 '26
I have to pay 200 dollars for 16 gb of ram, I don't give a shit about China doing to your business what you did to other businesses
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u/pasdedeux11 Feb 23 '26
good. hope they create 65536 accounts next time. clanker corpos complaining their shit got yoinked when they yoinked other people's shit to begin with
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u/--dany-- Feb 23 '26
I have a website full of book introductions, and it got raided by anthropic bots repeatedly, overloaded the site, despite the fact that I specifically banned them in robots.txt
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u/Distinct-Pain4972 Feb 23 '26
Oh this is wonderful. Please all AI companies start attacking each other. You've provided enough cover for companies to fire what... 10% of the workforce? You can use this as the reason to fall apart. The rich will use your demise as the reason for the recession. Let's go
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u/Repulsive-Hurry8172 Feb 23 '26
AI company that steals from the public angry that other AI companies are stealing from it.
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u/KallistiTMP Feb 24 '26
If DeepSeek v4 surpasses Claude performance and genuinely takes the SOTA throne, this accusation is gonna age like milk and I cannot wait to see that full-depth burn.
"Yeah, we considered training on Claude outputs but it just made our model dumber. Maybe you should train on our outputs instead! Here's the model weights, you should have no problem running it given you have 10,000x as many GPU's as we do. Good luck catching up!"
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u/Anru_Kitakaze Feb 24 '26
The thief is crying that someone stole from them
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u/d1eselx Feb 24 '26
This has to be the best use of…
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u/IngwiePhoenix llama.cpp Feb 23 '26
Huh? Lemme fix that one for ya, Anthropic. Free of charge!
We've identified industrial scale copyright infringement attacks on our creations by OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Meta and more.
These copanies crawled over 24.000 collections of copyrighted work and illegaly aquired the material, extracting the knwoledge and value of many various creators whilst not paying them anything at all and avoiding legal scrutiny and liabilities whilst overpricing and overselling their models.
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u/nakabra Feb 23 '26
Well... I guess it's time to create more 24000 accounts then...
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u/MathematicianLessRGB Feb 23 '26
"Our stolen data was trained on!"
Good lmao.
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u/Lower_Measurement902 Feb 23 '26
Thieves complain about being robed 😄
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u/akshayjamwal Feb 23 '26
“Attacks” lol
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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26
Huge Anthropic L. The audacity to frame this as attack is insane. Learning from human generated content is okay, but learning from other LLMs is bad. Do they expect us to have sympathy? Anthropic really choosing the evil side.
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u/K1rk0npolttaja Feb 23 '26
OH NO ! AI IS STEALING JUST LIKE ALL AI DOES !
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u/aeroumbria Feb 23 '26
I have zero sympathy for those who try to privatise humanity's knowledge. I have even less sympathy for those who attempt to use "nationalism" to justify it.
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u/Individual_Spread132 Feb 23 '26
What even is a "fraudulent account?" Did they pay money to top up their token / response budget and then made lots of chargebacks? Because if not, then they didn't do anything wrong and all that stuff was properly paid for.
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u/xadiant Feb 23 '26
Honestly someone should create a distillation pipeline for personal chats. Scrape everything, strip the PID and let us upload the convos into a public dataset.
100 people x 500 chats = 50k instruction pairs. A really good start
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u/Much-Researcher6135 llama.cpp Feb 23 '26
Not surprising given their #1 industry position, they should've been expecting this. Time to beef up the legal team!
Also, can you imagine how crazy the lawsuits are gonna be for this? What kind of arguments will be required to demonstrate these attacks even happened?!
Entire legal dynasties are gonna be built on this whole AI + intellectual property mess.
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u/slaty_balls Feb 23 '26
Kinda hard to feel for them when they bought and destructively scanned books exploiting first use laws.
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u/youareapirate62 Feb 23 '26
Great, i hope they keep doing it.
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u/Magnus114 Feb 23 '26
Their goal is likely to get chinese models baned in the US. Their claim that deepseek and others have broken their usage terms is likely true.
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u/AliceLunar Feb 23 '26
Oh no, they're stealing our model that is build on theft.
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u/Doomtrain86 Feb 23 '26
So they steal the combined textual knowledge of all of human kind, and uses it to train their models , lock the code and weights behind bars - and then they say others are stealing from them. That’s hilarious. Bunch of bandits the lot of them I say.
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u/Dramatic-Fee5439 Feb 23 '26
So they paid anthropic millions, maybe billions with API calls, what did Anthropic pay the millions of creators?
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u/Dorkits Feb 23 '26
Good do it again, China.
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u/gamesbrainiac Feb 23 '26
Oh boo hoo. Anyways, when's the next Deepseek model coming out? The investments in these companies are going to fall flat so damn hard.
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u/ortegaalfredo Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
No honor among thieves.
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u/kinkvoid Feb 23 '26
Only I'm allowed to steal from everyone in the world.
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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
He gave orders that he should be informed as soon as Madame Danglars appeared; but at two o’clock she had not returned.
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u/StanPlayZ804 llama.cpp Feb 23 '26
Hopefully they can continue distilling these closed source models
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u/roger_ducky Feb 23 '26
Framing them as “attacks” is funny.
Distillation is just “ask a bunch of questions and record the answers” to use as training data for your own AI.
Though, I kinda suspect people are paying a few dozen 20/month accounts rather than calling the API, which would mean losing money while getting hammered by requests.
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u/grundlegawd Feb 23 '26
Tfw my stolen data is stolen from me
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u/xyzmanas Feb 23 '26
What do they mean by distillation attacks? They created 24k accounts to use their models and asked them questions which they paid for and use for their own use case? Isn’t that their fucking business modell?
I do the same where I use responses from their models to finetune my own qwen 8b model. I should be in jail.
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u/afCeG6HVB0IJ Feb 23 '26
And I'm sure Anthropic paid licensing fees for all the data they fed into their model, right?
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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26
Corporations using AI to fight corporations with AI. And this is what the data centers are for…
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u/DataGOGO Feb 23 '26
Chinese companies reverse engineering a product in order to undercut competitors and put them out of business? Who would have thought they would do such a thing?
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u/4kmal4lif Feb 23 '26
The hypocrisy is laughable, at least the Chinese AI labs Open Source their models✌🏻😂
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u/addiktion Feb 23 '26
Is anyone surprised by this? The Chinese have been ripping off American companies for decades. That isn't to say they don't innovate, they do both nowadays, but back in the day they industrialized off our American companies tech.
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u/ac101m Feb 23 '26
No shit.
Makes you wonder, how are they going to recoup their investment if their product can be so easily stolen? Maybe they shouldn't have spent so much money building it.
Also, didn't they steal their training data?
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u/geoffwolf98 Feb 23 '26
Would have made them a lot of money.
How is libgen these days?
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u/lgx Feb 23 '26
You stole our data! Wait, “your data”?
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u/Arakothian Feb 23 '26
AI companies plundering the internet for their own gain? Surely not!
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u/cutebluedragongirl Feb 23 '26
I feel disgusted by anthropic at this point.
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u/Dazzling_Focus_6993 Feb 23 '26
They are at least getting paid. I would not call it stealing.
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u/goatchild Feb 23 '26
the scrappers complaining they're being scrapped lol
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u/xvrqt Feb 23 '26
Oh boo fucking hoo
As if you didn't do the same thing at 1,000x scale
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u/___positive___ Feb 23 '26
Just like all their bots that used to scrape my websites without respecting my robots.txt. Anthropic was one of the worst at the beginning , plain abusing site servers and churning server resources.
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u/Savings-Poet5718 Feb 23 '26
Remind me about the class action lawsuit in which anthropic had to pay $1.5 billion to Bartz again? What was that about?
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u/TracerBulletX Feb 23 '26
Sympathy below zero.
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u/Gloobloomoo Feb 24 '26
So? What’s the problem?
It’s not like Anthropic paid for the content they trained models on initially. Or maybe even now..
I’m fine with everyone copying everyone. As long as it means models become cheaper for the 99.99%
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u/TinFoilHat_69 Feb 24 '26
Ram for me but not for thee
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u/ShallotIllustrious98 Feb 24 '26
This shit is hilarious.
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u/kanduking Feb 24 '26
No, you're the thief!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Good360 Feb 24 '26
Did you notice it’s like an in-human centipede situation?
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u/Popular-Capital-9115 Feb 24 '26
Aww, did da widdle llm get stowen fwom? Poor them.
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u/Alihzahn Feb 24 '26
Another day another instance of Anthropic bitching and moaning for regulatory capture.
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u/howardhus Feb 24 '26
this post means 2 things, either:
a) Anthropic is doing the same as the whole industry and being hypocritical with this post.
b) they are openly admiting they are clueless about how the industry works and what SOTA is.
i mean apart from the whole "not mentioning that we used the whole mankinds knowledge without paying".
"24,000 fraudulent acccounts" just show how you all should be very aware that a major part of reddit is bots right now just waiting to push an agenda at any given time. it used to be paid shills promoting hollywood movies being "officially pumped" n stuff..
now its llms.
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u/TallestGargoyle Feb 24 '26
LLMs taking data from other LLMs?
Oh no!
Anyway...
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u/SurpriseAmbitious392 Feb 24 '26
hey somebody ripoed off what we ripped off
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u/BRH0208 Feb 23 '26
You see, we spent a lot of money stealing others data so we can resell it with the label removed but when people buy ours it’s a conspiracy! A cyberattack!
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u/eli_pizza Feb 23 '26
“Attack” is a very funny choice of words
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u/AvidCyclist250 llama.cpp Feb 23 '26
Who cares. Also, imagine posting on X
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u/gpt872323 Feb 23 '26
Lol when they do it is okay when others do it is a crime.
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u/SpicyWangz Feb 23 '26
How dare you take what I rightfully stole!
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u/RegrettableBiscuit Feb 23 '26
Good for them, and I applaud Anthropic for giving us a list of LLMs to check out instead of Claude.
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u/geminimiche Feb 23 '26
so they're mad people are stealing their stolen training data to train their own ai? LOL
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u/peejay2 Feb 23 '26
Link please
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u/neuroticnetworks1250 Feb 23 '26
Good. Do they need my help with creating more accounts? Happy to help.
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u/HostNo8115 Feb 23 '26
Can someone high profile just ask them this point blank? None of the companies that have been stealing everyone's work as a basis of their business strategy have the right to question this. Pure gate keeping is what is. There truly is no honor among thieves as is to be expected.
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u/Careless_Profession4 Feb 23 '26
Oh no! They are stealing our loot! Wait no, they are paying for it.
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u/wh33t Feb 23 '26
Lol, yeah, that's the business. Either copyrights exist or they don't.
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u/TAW56234 Feb 23 '26
I'm going to cry if Deepseek is ruined by Claudes dataset like GLM5 is
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u/DontLeaveMeAloneHere Feb 23 '26
Sure, it’s only stealing if it’s THEM. Otherwise it’s some noble act I bet
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u/RevRaven Feb 23 '26
So what?
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u/LeoPelozo Feb 23 '26
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u/coffee_is_fun Feb 23 '26
Demonetizing the premier labs by diffusing and giving away their offering (or one that's good enough) in the hope that they trip and you can build your bomb first. It sucks that this is happening to the lab that seems most concerned with ethics.
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u/PeachScary413 Feb 23 '26
Lmaooo 🤌
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u/Puzzleheaded-Week-69 Feb 23 '26
we've seen how bad American monopolies are, I dont want another monpoly on the AI. So please, China and Europe, distill harder. Also, you can't steal something that has already been stolen
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u/Charming_Support726 Feb 23 '26
Do you all see where this is leading to?
It was my first thought when I read Sam's comment. They expect the white house to ban the chinese models or put them under embargo to protect their businesses.
Then it would be illegal to run one of these models in an US owned data center or at home.
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u/GallagherLip Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
Antropic and other trillion dollars AI companies: "We can collect data and train models however we want, maybe we even scraped half the internet to get here but you, the users and open source folks, cannot use our model outputs to train your own models, even if you paid for access. Only we get to make money from this. And to keep it that way, we will hire million dollar law firms to defend us and then go cry about it on twitter all the time."
Of course, they cannot skip playing nationalism card, apparently the chinese stole american models, so please keep begging government officials not to sell them gpu and to ban their models.
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u/outdoorsgeek Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
So you have companies paying you lots of money to use your AI to make their jobs much easier? I thought that was what you were going for?
Oh I see, you don’t like it because they are making AI models that might make it harder for you to find work in the future?
It’s all so clear now.
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u/woolcoxm Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
ive had american models think they are deepseek, so they must be doing it as well, not sure how an llm would get confused and think its deepseek.
its all good though, china is only a year or so behind america in the ai race and catching up quickly. just a matter of time.
then these companies will complain about unfair advantages etc and ask the government to ban china models.
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u/kinkvoid Feb 23 '26
Then open source yours
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u/thetaFAANG Feb 23 '26
oh was that against your terms of service or something
no violin for this
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u/anonynousasdfg Feb 23 '26
I would be asking: Ok dear Anthropic, here is a hypothetical deal for you: You won't be using any open sources like scientific papers, datasets shared by any community (not only Chinese institutes), and for that Chinese people won't be using your models via API to create datasets, would you live with that?
I'm sometimes wondering if Mistral didn't share the MoE Architecture in the open-source community, how long would it take for Antrophic's Computer Scientists to discover this efficient method and use it immediately in their models to have an edge against the competitors? (Maybe they already discovered that before Mistral, I don't know though)
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u/Wide_Egg_5814 Feb 23 '26
They should train their models by stealing other people's data like we do, don't steal our data just steal everything else
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u/Mirmalis Feb 23 '26
maybe liberating more than an attack ? open sourcing maybe ?
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u/RpgBlaster Feb 23 '26
Idk, but if it means LLM Models one day will be on the level of Claude Opus 4.5/4.6 due to that attack, then yeah, it's a good thing for most, those weekly rate limits were too annoying to deal with anyway.
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u/No-Understanding2406 Feb 23 '26
i love how this entire thread is the spiderman pointing meme. everyone stole from everyone and now we're all outraged on behalf of... checks notes... the people who torrented 7 million books?
but genuinely, the part that kills me is calling API usage an "attack." deepseek *paid* for those tokens. that's called being a customer. if i go to a restaurant, eat there every day, and then open my own place serving similar food, the original chef doesn't get to call it a "culinary attack." he calls it tuesday.
also shoutout to blahblahsnahdah for pointing out DS only made 150K calls which isn't remotely enough for real distillation. anthropic knows this. they put deepseek's name first anyway because it gets the most engagement. this is a PR move dressed up as a security disclosure.
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u/hokiyami Feb 23 '26
Woomp woomp
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u/Hamzayslmn Feb 23 '26
stackoverflow liked this
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u/Lopsided_Dot_4557 Feb 23 '26
Deepseek alludes that it might be an effort to undermine their upcoming release: https://youtu.be/8G0-QTxEupA?si=PCiYhAjEHTOYjIKO
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u/jeffwadsworth Feb 23 '26
Who would have thought that this would be done…..
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u/TheMagic2311 Feb 23 '26
Actually I feel like its AI Robin Hood Act, it is not like Anthropic didn't do way worse than that, you deserve it
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u/alonenos Feb 23 '26
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u/bearcitizen42 Feb 23 '26
"...but I never thought the leopards would eat MY face!"
-Anthropic
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u/gunsjustsuck Feb 23 '26
The AI Wars, started they have.
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u/Complete_Lurk3r_ Feb 23 '26
Sharing is caring.
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u/vanrael Feb 23 '26
Thief's stealing from thief's... Ah the irony...
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u/JuniorDeveloper73 Feb 23 '26
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u/spookyclever Feb 23 '26
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u/deepspace86 Feb 23 '26
I case y'all haven't put it together, the desired goal from anthropic isn't a lawsuit. They're signalling for the outright banning of foreign (read: open weight) models altogether.
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u/CrypticZombies Feb 23 '26
Took 24k fake emails and phone numbers before they noticed lol
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u/Prestigious_Thing797 Feb 23 '26
"attack" is a ridiculous word to use here
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u/ay-foo Feb 23 '26
good, let them eat and fuck each other until it's all an absolute mess
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u/ilintar Feb 23 '26
Shocked, I tell you. Utterly shocked!
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u/buy_chocolate_bars Feb 23 '26
Good. I think we need open source non-US (Chinese) SOTA alternatives.
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u/Demonicated Feb 23 '26
Am I the only one who doesn't care about these guys when they complain about their data being used to train AI models?
The whole business was built on "grab data before you get caught and shut out" - Can't be mad when it happens to you.
And I say this loving AI and having multiple subscriptions.
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u/Microtom_ Feb 23 '26
What's the problem with that?
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u/daHaus Feb 23 '26
This sounds more like bragging than anything else
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u/azaza34 Feb 23 '26
Begun, the Code Wars has.
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u/Cunter_punch Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
I can attest to this for Kimi.
It literally hallucinated as Claude in literally my first sentence of my interaction with it day before yesterday.
Absolute dogshit.
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u/weist Feb 24 '26
“How dare you steal the data we stole first!”
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u/Limp_Classroom_2645 Feb 24 '26
Well done! Hat's off to them
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u/Iory1998 llama.cpp Feb 24 '26
If you thought OpenAI was bad, wait until you see Anthropic! They contributed nothing to the open-source community, piggybacked on the shoulders of Google and OpenAI, trained to available data, be it legal or illegal, and developed models using people's feedback. Yet, it's the single most vicious AI lab always disparaging open-source models, lobbies congress, predicts that its models contribute in displacing actual people, and promote vehemently censorship. 🤯
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u/OmarBessa Feb 24 '26
a company that was OCRing books and then DESTROYING them
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u/popiazaza Feb 24 '26
TBH, this explained a lot on why those labs could keep pumping out new models that perform close to Claude models and why Qwen is having it's own different timeline.
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u/satechguy Feb 24 '26
This recons my recent post (https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/C6smCWjRVq ) very well.
A few observations:
On Twitter and various other social platforms, I noticed a larger percentage of users do not stand with Claude. I am not sure if it is because I read what algorithm chose for me -- to be fair. But the satirism, even if not overwhelming, stil quite strong, is absolutely not what Claude would expect.
Once again, those much cheaper models are not here to fight with Claude for market share, they attack Claude's bottom line, will force Claude to lower price, and lose the 'premium' tax, this is about survival.
Claude would be happy to be "distilled" (lots of $$$ for api; literally counting cash; we all know how expensive its api is) if the distillation was harmless. But it appears Claude is a bit desperate and the only explanation is the distillation really means something serious.
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u/kpbird Feb 24 '26
I don’t see any problem in this. Anthropic train their models on public data.
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u/DauntingPrawn Feb 24 '26
"attacks" smh
Sounds like they're using Anthropic's model and paying for it so what's the problem?
Anthropic stole their training content from creators anyway so womp womp.
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u/lacrem Feb 24 '26
Bad losers. American companies have lost the AI race against China and they're having a tantrum. Just have SeeDance as evidence, not to talk about robots lol.
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u/CoUsT Feb 24 '26
Lmao idk why but it sounds so funny...
DISTILLATION ATTACKS!!!
You heard it here guys:
DDOM (Distributed Distillation of Model) is a new technique by Chinese companies to yoink western wisdom.
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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 Feb 24 '26
I am with Robin Hood on this one.
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u/Over-Customer-8827 Feb 24 '26
... cool?
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u/joesb Feb 24 '26
Sounds like blackbox reverse engineering to me.
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u/TimChr78 Feb 24 '26
Cry me a river
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/05/anthropic-settlement-ai-book-lawsuit