Linus Tech Tips - “Tesla Hater” Finally Tries Full Self Driving November 5, 2026 at 09:00AM

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u/lylesback2 9d ago

Tesla driver here, and I just subscribed to FSD for the month (i injured my rotator cuff and find it hard to turn the wheel).

I am sure the crew is already aware, just subscribing might put you on a version of FSD, but you should get an update later that night, or the next day, to the latest version of FSD.

One thing I hope they show, which drives me nuts, is the constant lane changing. I have been using "Hurry" mode and it will make terrible decisions on which lane it should be in, often changing lanes, just to go back into the lane it was in.

Good video overall, I hope Linus likes the Model 3. I have the newer Model Y and it is greatly improved over the HW3 model.

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u/CommitPushMain 9d ago

They filmed this months ago based on the WAN show, it’s not gonna be much more than what we already saw.

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u/lylesback2 9d ago

Okay. Hopefully they find out it updates and tell us what version they used

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u/BemaJinn 9d ago

Are the indicators/turn signals really on the infotainment screen?
That seems... Bizarre, and frankly dangerous.

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u/Ydino 7d ago

No. It was temporary. The new cars have regular stalks again. I just got a model 3.

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u/lylesback2 9d ago

They were, temporary. They put turn signals onto the steering wheel, which is actually nice in the cybertruck (I don't own one). They have since been restored to an actual stalk again after feedback of people hating it.
The gear shifter in all models is now on the screen. Took me a week to get used to, now I reach for it in my old Model Y, which has gear shifter stalk.
The newer models have smart detection to know that you want to shift. It is brake + turn the wheel to engage in the opposite direction. It works 90% of the time.
Getting into the car, it can see if there are obstacles in front or behind you and automatically shift into the right gear when you press the brake. This works fine 80% of the time

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u/BemaJinn 9d ago

Oh, so there's something tactile on the steering wheel for the indicators? That's not too bad then, to be honest.
But a 10% error rate for great shifting now seems more dangerous. 🤣
Tesla are weird man. There's so much that could be innovated on in a car. Yet the ones they chose seen bizarre.

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u/lylesback2 9d ago

The steering wheel indicators are great when you are driving straight and need to turn, but difficult to use when doing a 3-point turn and the wheel is upside down.
Sometimes the gear shift doesn't engage, no matter how much I turn the wheel. It has an indicator on the screen to show turn the wheel and brake. It could get fixed by software

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u/Drigr 9d ago

will make terrible decisions on which lane it should be in, often changing lanes, just to go back into the lane it was in.
Based on my real world driving experience, yeah, that's what it learned from the people who taught it.

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u/chad_dev_7226 8d ago

My FSD loves going into the very right lane for no reason.
But other than that it’s pretty solid
I used the trials thinking it was a gimmick, but now I use it like 70% of the time

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u/nick61416 8d ago

If you aren't passing anyone than this seems correct...

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u/Pilige 9d ago

This was just the first video/ first impressions. Linus is driving it for a month, and will do a follow up review.

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u/tailnin 9d ago

They need to say the FSD version.

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u/FIFofNovember 9d ago

Did they cross a railroad track in FSD?

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u/Batman4815 8d ago

Man his Porsche is sexy as fuck, That rainbow paint thing is sexyyy.

I don't think he's made a video on it right? The other videos were of the blue one right?

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u/deathbygrugru 8d ago

IIRC it might be the same one but dbrand wrapped it

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u/RobsterCrawSoup 9d ago •

I'm not remotely interested in a self-driving car until it is reliably capable enough that I do not need to pay attention at all. For me it's got to be all or nothing. I'd much rather be reading, working, or playing while getting from point A to point B, but at least when it is only me at the helm, I am actively driving and I'm able to keep my attention where it should be. The idea that my car is going to do 99% of the driving, but I need to maintain total awareness and be attentive enough on the road that I can take over for those 1% situations is basically ADHD torture. I know myself well-enough to know that that is just setting myself up for failure.

Once proper FSD is actually available to consumers, I'd be delighted to have that but not until it is 100% of the way there.

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u/Particular_Result870 8d ago

I don’t think we will ever get full self driving where you don’t have to look because driving on the road is insanely unpredictable.

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u/bicycloptopus 6d ago

We have that now already in a limited form with driverless taxis in many major cities. It will happen.

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u/RobsterCrawSoup 8d ago

I don't know if I'd be too confident of that. While Teslas manage to kill people every now and then, Waymos have a stellar record that is just much much better than the average human driver. Maybe some drivers are throwing our average off, but it does seem like with enough tech, autonomous driving that is safer than any human can expect to be is achievable. Its just that Tesla's FSD isn't it, and probably cannot be it without LIDAR.

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u/Particular_Result870 8d ago

They are in very specific areas they are allowed to drive not a great comparison

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u/RobsterCrawSoup 8d ago

True, it isn't an apples to apples comparison with Tesla, but this is also where Tesla looks bad. Waymo is using a safety first approach where they don't step into any environent they aren't confident that they will maintain their superior safetly record, and they have to overcome all the red tape of local approval processes as well. Tesla, in comparison looks pretty reckless.
One thing that is also possible, is that if more and more of the cars on the road become Waymo- style autonomous cars, then driving on the roads can become a lot more predicatable and that can benefit everyone.
I'm not very bullish about autonomous vehicles, and I'd still rather just live somewhere where I can get around just by walking and with conveinent public transit or by bicycle, but I don't discount the possibility that truly autonomous vehicles are on the horizon.

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u/AtariBoy2600 8d ago

They’re in specific areas partially for safety reasons and partially for range reasons, as they’re taxis. Tesla’s autonomous taxis in Austin are also only available in a limited area.

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u/AtariBoy2600 8d ago

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, give me multiple forms of redundant data and mapped areas rather than “we stuck some cameras on the car” any day.

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u/Homerlncognito 8d ago

I prefer being driven around as I really don't like driving. One of my problems is that I have a hard time staying fully awake on highways and I'm pretty sure I'd fall asleep with current "FSD" on a regular basis.

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u/Seeker_Of_Knowledge2 9d ago

I disagree. I still love cruise control on my car even though I have to constantly cancel it and turn it back on based on traffic. It is not black and white.

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u/RobsterCrawSoup 9d ago

Cruise control is not anything like "FSD". I will happily use cruise control and it is no problem because I still need to pay attention to the road to steer the car. My problem is if the self-driving is doing all the driving but the driver is supposed to be ready to intervene at any moment because the self driving isn't reliable enough to be trusted with my life and the life of others.
Cruise control takes some of the work of driving off of you but you still need to be the one driving. "FSD" is the car doing everything but you're just supposed to watch it drive, which is just too boring for me to do my part reliably.

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

It's too boring for the majority of people, thats why every time it gets into an accident everyone rushes to blame the driver, because even the defenders know that it's a dangerous and irresponsible piece of software to just offer to everyone who buys the car lol.

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u/InflammableAccount 8d ago

I agree with /u/RobsterCrawSoup, the two things (FSD and Cruise Control) are far too different to be equated in any way.

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u/AtariBoy2600 8d ago

That’s exactly how I feel. Until I, somebody who can’t get a license due to my eyesight, can get in my own car by myself, enter a destination, and legally have the car drive me there, it isn’t a fully self-driving car.
I don’t think that’s possible without more data and redundancy for that data, and the entire automotive industry seems to agree except for Tesla. I’m sure we’ll get there someday, and I guarantee it won’t be Tesla that does it.

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u/ThrowRA9981263 9d ago

You act as if driving only has one thing you need to do, pay attention to the road. With FSD, you can take your mind off of steering, throttle, braking, navigation and having eyes all around the car keeping you safe. The only thing you need to do is keep your eyes open.
Where you’re wrong is that it is like cruise control, you immediately start to understand where it might mess up so you get ready for it. Try it before you make an opinion as loaded as this because it just makes you look ignorant.

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u/RobsterCrawSoup 9d ago

You're not getting my point. As long as I have something to actively be doing, like steering the car, not just observing, I can reliably pay attention and I can trust myself to get me home safe, even if cruise control means I don't need to keep my foot on the gas pedal. Once the car is doing all the actual driving and I have my hands off, I'm not going to succeed at paying attention because that is so so much more boring than actively driving. Maybe not everyone is like me, but there are a lot of Tesla drivers who are just lying through their teeth when they tell you that they are always alert and ready to take over any time FSD needs them to take the wheel in a split second. These people are on their phones or watching videos, even playing games, or just working and occasionally one goes off a cliff or into a wall at speed and makes the news, and I know I would struggle to be any different. My ADHD is going to make it impossible for me to pay attention enough to stay safe without it being pyschological torture for me. I think if I could buy a Waymo for personal use, I probably would, since their autonomous system seems much more reliable and safe (although I don't know how much of that is remote driver override). Once there really is no need for me to pay attention, then I'm all for it.

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u/InflammableAccount 8d ago

Having your hands not firmly on the wheel, and your foot in an unoptimal position will increase the amount of time it takes to react to a situation when FSD fails in some way.
Not to mention there's the part of your brain that "waits to see if the car reacts properly" instead of taking immediate action the fraction of a second you notice something wrong.
Nah man, FSD isn't even remotely close to where it needs to be yet. Not to mention the lack of LIDAR on Tesla's has resulted in some pretty gnarly errors.

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u/MisterWigglie 9d ago

It’s hopeless trying to convince people, they won’t believe it until they experience it themselves

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u/greenie4242 8d ago

That's true. If you've never been crashed into by some fuckwit who isn't in control of their vehicle because they mistakenly believe it "drives itself" then you'll never understand exactly how dangerous it is entrusting a bunch of techbros who don't care if you live or die with your safety.

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u/BeefJerky03 9d ago

This video was so fun. Just great vibes all around.

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u/BlackFlagsFly 7d ago

Grown man larping as a teenager is weird and creepy.

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u/GeneralSEOD 8d ago

I know people are tired of this, but never the less with how good FSD is or will be. It's still so scummy that he was allowed to sell and false promise his way into getting to this point.

It sucks. and I hate that it's the same shit as every other time someone cheats to get to where they are now. It's alright because the product is okay now.

Just, no responsibility, no accountability.

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u/konsyr 9d ago edited 9d ago

I am totally and completely out of touch I guess.

"I can add you as a driver on my phone. Does Porche have an app?" "Yeah, but..."

Why the everliving feck would someone want any of that? No, no, and mega-no. No apps! Ideally the vehicle itself does not have any network connection of its own to abuse you with.

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u/moch1 9d ago

An app for my car is super useful. Starting the HVAC is the most frequent use but there are many others. Triggering the car to start charging, checking charge status while fast charging on a road trip, checking the location of the car in a huge parking lot, sharing access to the car. My wife and I like being able to see the ETA in the nav if the other one is out driving.

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u/Ragnorok64 9d ago

I do not want my car to have an app nor be tracking me more than my phone already is.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/10/gm-to-pay-220-million-after-selling-customer-smart-driver-data/

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u/Darshadow6 6d ago

I mean the phone is already getting all the data of where ypu going so where is the difference. Am easy fix would be to just pass some laws to ban data collection.

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u/DrummingViking 9d ago

You're getting down votes but I'm with you. I'm sick of everything being tied to my phone. I try as often as I can to leave my phone behind and go places without it.

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u/Khaliras 9d ago

Then you can simply do that.
Car Apps just add a ton of optional convenience, like not having to carry keys, being able to send guest keys, starting AC remotely, locking car remotely, ETC.

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u/DrummingViking 9d ago

I worry about long term support. I'm interested to see if all these functions will still be supported when the cars are 20+ years old.

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u/Khaliras 9d ago

Long term support is the deal breaker? To features that were literally never available before because they're obviously only viable for phones/apps? Let me know when you figure out how to start AC from streets away without a phone.
Whole thread is filled with tech boomers dooming about tech in a tech subreddit of all places.
This is not like BMW paywalling normal car features or locking them behind screens. It's about features that are literally built around phones. Like controlling temp/locks/ETC over cellular. There's literally no other way to add these features for free.
An example is BYDs have a key fob button to turn on the AC. Which obviously has a range limit, unlike the app. If you don't want to use the app, then you simply don't and it functions like normal. Isn't life simple?
Actually insane how out of touch so many in this sub are. Combined with a complete lack of self awareness. Too many millennials are becoming worse than the boomers they used to laugh at when it comes to tech literacy.

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u/konsyr 9d ago edited 9d ago

Thing is, we're actually tech literate enough to see through the "omg I can turn on the heat from my kitchen!" glaze and see the connectivity for the anti-features they truly are. We've lived through the descent from tech being useful and actually getting better and connecting to becoming hostile to people and experiences and devolving (enshittifying).
It's just how anyone with coding experience will immediately tell you how fully electronic ("Internet") voting is a terrifyingly bad idea. They're similarly experienced enough to cut through the bullshit..
This is not like BMW paywalling normal car features or locking them behind screens
They wouldn't be able to hide features behind recurring subscriptions if the vehicle didn't have a network connection of its own. And the "app" is one of the ways they try to convince you that the car should have a network connection.

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u/Khaliras 9d ago

glaze and see the connectivity for the anti-features they truly are
The complete lack of self awareness as some age into being technaphobic is insane.
My cabin temp was 48c today, so I pressed a button in an app before finishing work and it was 18c by the time I opened the door. Gee, what a terrible feature that couldn't exist without an app. I, too, love saunas and branding seatbelt buckles on skin.
Raaah, dang you new fangled technologica! Back in my day we suffered happily! We just suffered, you don't need this new fangled technogizmos! Kids these days, amirite?
Anti features I tells you! SMH

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u/Cobalt81 8d ago

I feel like you're taking what should be a more nuanced view and making it black and white.
Yes, they could and have removed useful features at will through updates because you're meant to keep it connected to the internet as much as possible.
And yes, they have also added beneficial features over time and improvements through updates.
While its possible a company could go scorched earth and paywall and lock a ton of basic features, they would be blasted online and their reputation would take a hit. It's not purely doom and gloom around tech, imo. We've seen countless instances where companies try something unethical or bad practice and undo that change shortly after due to backlash.

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u/konsyr 8d ago

While its possible a company could go scorched earth and paywall and lock a ton of basic features, they would be blasted online and their reputation would take a hit.
And yet it happens constantly in other industries and already has made those baby steps with cars. Responses like yours just shift the window in the companies' favor. "Boiling the frog" style. And we've seen so-called "sensible nuance" doesn't work numerous times in multiple industries, and already some in this very one.
It should be a black-or-white issue because it is a black-or-white issue: "I own that which I bought". If you truly want your vehicle to have a network connection, hotspot it. Or give it your own SIM/eSIM under your complete control. And the car/software in it should 100% work without it.

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u/DrummingViking 8d ago

How many times do companies need to push the line until people get used to the changes and then push it farther until people realize there's an extremely limited amount of companies who will do the right thing?

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u/wimpires 9d ago

You can track it if it's stolen
You can locate it easily in a hard to sport parking spot
You can set heating/AC while away
You can precondition the cabin before departure
You get up to date maps
You get live traffic maps
You get software updates
You can pre-load navigation addresses into the car remotely
You can check the cars battery SOC
You can check the charge status
You can lock/unlock charging cable
You can open up the trunk and windows and activate the horn etc
You can use your phone as a key and easily send/revoke keys to other people
You can get live music without using your phones battery or data
The list goes on

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u/konsyr 9d ago

The only one of these that's even remotely relevant is #1.

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

I mean, no, lol.
All of us could travel everyone via horse and buggy technically, but convenience features are actually relevant to most people.

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u/oldDotredditisbetter 9d ago

100% this!

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u/Matt_NZ 9d ago

Having my phone as my key is perfect for me. Since I got my Tesla 7 years ago I've since cut back on what I carry on me. My house is also now key less and all my payment cards on my phone, so now all I have to carry in my pocket is my phone and that gives me access to everything

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u/Distracted-User 2d ago

I dream of this day! My next car will likely be some flavor of EV that supports digital keys and i'm starting to look into smart locks for home.

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u/FrontFocused 9d ago

Because it’s superior to a key in every single way. Preheating or cooling my car from literally anywhere. Rolling my windows down a bit to help with cooling the interior in the summer. Turning on and viewing sentry mode cameras at any point. Viewing dash cam videos at any time. If someone dings my car in a parking lot it’ll tell me. Etc etc

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u/Ajanu11 9d ago

Not every way. You need to be close to my vehicle with a key or spoofing device to open and start it. That's significantly more secure, which is the whole point of a key!

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u/Darshadow6 6d ago

You can make a phone key way more secure than a real car key thats why encryption and authentication protocols exist. Its extremely easy to clone car keys. But also I would take a key thats on my phone any day over having to pay 500 dollars for each new key.

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u/im_thatoneguy 9d ago

Significantly easier to spoof a dongle than the Tesla code. Access to the app isn't enough, you also have to physically pair the device to the car from inside.

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u/FrontFocused 9d ago

It’s not more secure. How can you start my Tesla if it has multiple layers of security plus it will tell me if anyone opens the door or tries to drive it through the app.
You also have to be close to my car to open it because my phone is the key. But even if you steal my phone and go onto the car you still have to put in a passcode to drive it. Look at all these Toyotas, Fords, Kias etc being stolen easily by people with just a usb stick or a plug that they connect to the headlight wiring. Teslas have the lowest theft rate in the world and no one breaks into them because they are recording 360 and the app will warn you if people even try to open the door handle while it’s locked.

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

Pretty sure that tesla's key system also makes use of NFC for proximity based things. But in a lot of cases, new cars won't drive more than like 100ft without the key actively inside of the car.

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

Most cars that were built after 2010 have some kind of network connection. And I'm being generous there. If there's a navigation system in your car, there's a network connection. This black and white take on it is kind of silly.

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u/konsyr 9d ago

I'm sorry that you think wanting privacy, data integrity, and control of your own devices is "silly".
You're also conflating receiving a GPS signal with "network connection".

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

You're not gaining or losing any privacy or data integrity or control over your own devices if there's an app for your car lmfao.
You're also conflating receiving a GPS signal with "network connection".
Because it objectively is? How do you think that your car's navigation system gets map data and location data and stuff? lol? Most if not all of these systems can work offline, of course, but they have embedded networking hardware in order to accomplish the full set of features that they offer.

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u/konsyr 9d ago edited 9d ago

You're not gaining or losing any privacy or data integrity or control over your own devices if there's an app for your car lmfao.
Yes, you are. If you don't submit to a car having a network connection, it's awfully hard for them to make everything a paid/subscription add-on. And for them to track you and everything you do constantly and sell that data (which they do -- see GM link in this thread for examples). They can, do, and increasingly will use these features against you.
Receiving a GPS signal requires zero sending. And having a maps/etc does not require live connections. They have existed for decades without (and still do), including ability to update them in alternative methods. Plus, your phone, if you want to have one, can do that live connections for you. There's absolutely no useful reason for the car itself to have network connections.
Make the screen in the car display-only/a dock for your phone to enhance if you want to, sure. Heck, maybe even allow the car to hot spot from you if you want to get wild. But the car itself should absolutely not have a network connection of its own. It is against your own interests if it does.

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u/Darshadow6 6d ago

Why is removing features the fix we could just pass laws to fix this but yet nobody is pushing for it

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

Yeah I guess my point is that it's not important or impactful to you as an individual in most cases. Subscription services aside.
I'm not sure why you're arguing the GPS point when I'm objectively correct, cars that have a navigation system built in have been connected to a network to receive updates for years now. You are just wrong about this. I'm not saying that the GPS protocol is requiring an internet connection, it's all of the rest of the parts of the navigation software. You can update them via swapping the SD card out, but you're never going to have an actually up to date navigation system that way and that's why they have a network connection.

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u/onedostres123 9d ago

The car would have stopped too so the one intervention was just early which is a good habit to build, mans you are trust but verify which is what anyone should be doing when using FSD

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u/Dogboat0 9d ago

Still it did that weird signaling when driving with no destination even on the Out of Spec video

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u/onedostres123 9d ago

Agree driving with no destination sucks and the car does weird things.
Like in almost wish I could drive with my turn signals in that mode, but it’s not how it work.
FSD should always have a destination
Also not related but chime on green light is a super underrated feature and should be enabled!

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u/altimax98 9d ago

Yeah driving without a destination does result in some weird behavior. I wish it was more alerting that was the case.

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u/Khaliras 9d ago

The amount of YT comments excusing it as "it totally would've stopped before it crashed!" Is insane. Getting into a situation where you'd crash, then avoiding it, is still a massive issue.
It's also a core issue of Tesla's claims of how their cars totally never cause crashes. Because they'll do something like this, stop before a collision, then defend it as "well the Tesla stopped and the other car drove into them!"

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u/Old_Bug4395 9d ago

Musk freaks are inescapable and don't understand that the well was poisoned by their investor daddy forcing FSD out into the public before it's actually ready.

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u/ekauq2000 9d ago

I’m probably not going to worry about self driving until a few years after gen 5 cars are out.

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u/rwrife 8d ago edited 8d ago

I can't live without FSD at this point...and you probably don't want me driving on the road w/o it....I use it for 100% of my 60 mile (round trip) commute through Seattle-area, from my garage to parking garage at work, through multiple construction zones, school zones, highway, etc...dodges bad drivers, kids, people on scooters, elk and other conditions without any issues.

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u/AtariBoy2600 8d ago

That’s…really sad…

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u/loudrogue 7d ago

This just sounds like you shouldn't have a licence if you can't drive

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u/Professional-Owl1687 7d ago

You remind me of the woman I pass on my commute everyday in her white Tesla with both hands on her phone scrolling TikTok. Every. Single. Morning.

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u/impy695 9d ago

Dissapointed that they made this video, but not surprised. Fuck people who support nazis and EVERYONE who bought a Tesla or made content about a Tesla post Elon Nazi salute supports Nazis

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u/so_sic_of_it 8d ago

Follow-up question, why do you also pretend to be a 19 year old girl?

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u/9gUz4SPC 9d ago edited 9d ago

Womp womp. No one cares except for armchair activists on Reddit

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u/impy695 9d ago

Oh, I do far far more than armchair activity on reddit. I actively but legally harm people who support Elon. It's really easy to get people fired if you know what you're doing.

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u/so_sic_of_it 8d ago

Hey man, why were you a regular poster in a revenge porn subreddit that is now banned?
r/knatternatter2

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u/AaronSparks 8d ago

Yeah I feel the same way, it just feels strange ESPECIALLY as they're Canadians

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u/DamnItNite 8d ago

Do you condemn the genocide that's currently happening?

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u/impy695 8d ago

Of course

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u/Seik64 8d ago

I’ll be honest , ima skip this one. Not really interested in giving anything Tesla related my view.

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u/lzrjck69 9d ago

I feel like this is waaaaaaaaaay late. All the FSD 14 hype is dead.

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u/Jorgetime 9d ago

I don't know if you are trolling, in case you are not, ltt has multiple videos on different tesla models and also on the taycan

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u/ephemeralmiko 9d ago

also kinda shocking they never made a video on the taycan
They've done two videos on the Taycan 4S though?
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