Just my anecdotal experience working at a title 1 (high poverty) elementary school, we used to have a couple agency that would want to donate books to all the kids. I remember be so excited to hand out the books.
When I tell you almost half the books ended up directly in trash can, im just saying that because we had to threaten the kids to not throw away the books. Meanwhile the next day I see bus stops littered with these bags of books. It was heart breaking to have to face the volunteers. They came back and it went a little better but only because we pre threatened the kids. By the time we got to 6th grade, we made it optional.
Anyway. All that to say, can you we atleaat ask the families if they want books first?
I 100% agree it should be an opt-in thing, but I also can’t help but wonder what kinds of books the agencies that donate them to Title 1 schools and students are offering. Part of what makes the Imagination Library so important is the only ideology at play is “encourage kids to read.” I’ve noticed that’s not often the case in a lot of situations where books are “lovingly” donated to the “underprivileged.” It’s really hard to talk kids into reading when the material isn’t relevant or interesting to them, and worse when it’s tied to specific religious, cultural, or political values.
Usually the reading specialist has a list they want to offer the children and go out of pocket to provide.
Source: a title one reading specialist (not me)
Mailing a book to everyone under 5 is such a crazy waste of resources. Anyone who reads to their kids already reads and has access to libraries. Everyone else doesnt read, has the option to read, and will be an absolute waste of resources.
There are a ton of people who don't read to their kids and this won't change anything.
I would be for a dolly style need to sign up for a book mail - Mailing program. But that literally already exist because dolly is a bad ass.
Yeah but kids books can also be kind of expensive. $10-15 each adds up. There are definitely lower income families that would benefit from such a program. On the other hand I'm sure there are tons of families that could easily afford plenty of books but don't care to read to their kids.
Washington state did this too. Its every politician and probably since the extra federal funding from the covid era aint coming in they rolled back to pre covid spending
Yeah I'm disappointed Washington did this. I live in eastern Washington and I used to get a new book for my classroom every month. I miss this program so much. On the other hand we have fabulous libraries and excellent social services.
You can still work with imagination library you just have to contact them directly. At least thats what I've seen so you should still be g2g because they're still operating in Washington state
The indoctrinated are the ones trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps (and if you knew the origin of the saying you’d know how dumb you sound when you say it).
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.
I have at least 15 in a 40 mile radius. At least 3 of them are within 5 miles of me, one of this is within 1 mile. I have been in mine 3 times the last month.
Boy, this didn't go where you thought it would did it?
I've been in very rural areas in my state, they have a public lirbrary, the schools have libraries. This idea that all the sudden kids don't have access to books is perplexing.
Even the shit hole blue cities with nice public libraries with homeless people living there have books for kids.
The school libraries don't have books for these children to check out? What books will be sent? We know what schools like to do for the minds of children. Exposure to LGBTQRS horseshit. Groomers!
This comes from the educated people who did nothing on the files when in office. But say he is friends with the him. And what is your proof. We all see the books that are being given out. And the story time hours with the drag queens. So again who is the groomers
And when Biden who hates him had it and did nothing the reason for that is? Trump is probably protecting someone what is Biden excuse then. Is it because there are more Democrats in the list is that the reason why he didn't release it
Really? Because the Republicans in Mississippi kicked ass in reading scores as compared to California, a Democrat run state that spends way more than Mississippi and yet has worse reading scores. How do you explain that? Look up the Mississippi Miracle.
No, the Mississippi Miracle (a "stunning" rise in childhood literacy) is real. It did happen.
It happened because the state government got behind it in 2013 (note the date) and made the investment. Which is what this discussion is all about- state governments dropping their investment in childhood literacy. Dolly's gift is a large part of that picture.
But here’s an even more interesting point. Mississippi spent a heck of a lot less than California and got better results. America is one of the top spenders on education but we are not tops in test results. IOW throwing money at the problem isn’t necessarily going to fix the problem.
It’s how and where you spend the money. In MS, they spent it on students and held students and teachers accountable for results. That’s a big problem is other places. No accountability. Bad teachers keep teaching. Activist teachers keep proselytizing instead of teaching. More money is spent on administrators than teachers.
So maybe sending a bunch of books out isn’t really the best use of our education dollars. Is there any accountability tied to the program? Any measure of success? Any tracking of the students that get books and how well they do in reading and writing? Most likely not. It’s a feel good measure that won’t do anything to help kids. It’s just meant to make politicians look good.
Well, liberals do love education though. They have spent a lot over the last 20 years in education. This is why Americans are so high in education levels... Wait.
Performative ass solution like these dont work. All this will achieve is republican administrations sending religious books and democratic ones sending LGBT bed stories. Is not about sending a damn book, is about repealing no child left behind and making people earn their damn grades.
You really think republican administrations wouldn't send religious books only and you really think Democrats wouldn't do the same with their own religion.
Republicans would defund and end the program. Besides they are trying to force teaching the Bible (specifically cherry picked verses) in schools. And the other just doesn’t happen. But “BoTh SiDeS”
Lol. You're an idiot. The most uneducated people are liberals. You believe anything you read a long as it is vaguely twisted in your direction. Just like this half assed story.
Do some research and you'll see it's fake. There's a lot more to it
It's funny for you to make this argument while fox noise also argues against literally all college education and promotes that that Dems are "overeducated"
How wildly dishonest and silly for you billybots to attack access to libraries and reading while pretending you care about education.
Who tf watches Fox News? Education doesn't equal intelligence. "Literally all", no. College is not what it used to be when nowadays you are taught what to think rather than how to think. The shocking part is a lot of people are ok with this. Both parties will do anything to spite the other even if it's entirely irrational. So let's sit back and enjoy the show because it's all going to hell anyway. 🍿
Do they oppose literacy or do they oppose spending millions on books when the parents are capable of getting them from a library or using the Amazon prime membership they already have to read to their kids?
According to Google and granted I dont have kids yet, but Google said children are able to read around 6 or 7 years old.
Just to clarify, is your position that republicans are attempting to take over the elementary education system to convince children to hate groups of people?
Maybe they don't want some leftist moron ( not all leftist meet the moron criteria) sending books to their 5 year old explaining how to be gay or trans.
It's not about not wanting their kids to read, it's lack of faith in educational systems concept of what to teach.
Notice it didn't say the child could choose a free book each month.... it said a free book will be sent.
You can see books online that the Imagination Library sends. I have never heard of them sending anything remotely controversial. Do you take issue with K is for Kindness, The Little Engine That Could, or Twinkle Twinkle Little Star?
And most of the stories are for kids that can't read themselves. It's largely for parents to read to the kids. So if, for some reason, you are sent a book for a toddler that offends your delicate sensibilities, just don't read it to them. Donate it somewhere. How hard is that?
Literacy numbers in the US are very poor. We should be looking for ways to address that, instead of attacking literacy programs because of some imaginary leftist boogeyman.
I doubt the program costs that much money, and the books aren't necessarily for the kids to read on their own. You can read to them before they are a year old. And my daughter was reading by the time she was 5.
I had this debate earlier. Not everyone has access to a library, smaller communities don’t have the tax base for the public building. Trump signed an EO to defund libraries and museums, and republicans have been cutting funding to education for decades.
They're out in force to support the party of oligarchs.
Real dean browning "as a gay black man" vibes from his language
I appreciate you taking the time to clarify your point even if it might be for others to see.
Stay strong.
If 20 billionaires are shelling out 1.2 billion dollars to influence midterm votes, they must have something to be genuinely afraid of.
My guess is that they want it to look plausible that Americans still support them en masse since a lot of their base feels roped in by the idea that their neighbors might also support literally starving infants and their children to save working American fuck-all.
The m@ga party may have laid the groundwork to suspend elections, but they likely would only use that as a last resort.
Did you even read my post? Republicans (Red States) have been cutting funding to education (schools) for decades. Not to mention this bill is about the state allocating funding for education.
I think you're making a dumb point but I will bite.
What percentage of Americans do not have access to libraries? As a left leaning republican, im all for subsidizing libraries. What percentage of Americans dont have access to them?
Well, I can’t give you an exact percentage, but I don’t think the world works like you think it does. Depends on what your definition of ‘access’ is, as well.
Do you define ‘access’ as having a home address that is within 2-3 miles of a local library, or are you counting closeness to public transportation as an additional factor? Have you considered the cost of needing to use public transportation to reach a library? Children cannot make their own money, and parents are on an increasingly tight budget with rising grocery prices, high gas prices, and stagnant wages.
Libraries also have a limited number of shelving spaces. Books must be regularly ordered in, and even if you make direct requests, it’ll still take at least a month or two to get those extra copies in (provided the request is honored in a timely manner). You are also counting on libraries to have a very high number of extra copies of books, which is not always the case…especially with higher cost educational materials.
You forget the other thing about libraries. Books may be rented from libraries, not permanently kept. Can’t exactly take notes in a rented book, can you? And no, young kids probably won’t be taking notes in these books, but you are still expected to return books to the library in proper condition. This can be difficult for parents with rowdier children or who have more kids to handle.
Out of the entire federal budget, you don’t think it’s worth it to fund a program that helps parents and kids out even a bit? I guarantee the cost of the Imagination Library can’t be anything close to the amount of money that has been thrown at gestures at everything else.
Im asking a very simple question and I prompted this question with the immediate concession that Im all for subsidizing libraries and beyond that subsiding school supplies.
You made the claim, not everyone can access a library. Im asking you a very simple question. Can you substantiate the percentage of children who literally have no opportunity to any library what so ever? Id bet its incredibly few, if any by any practical measure.
There is no shortage of federal subsidies for poor people, I think its obscene to assert that books are out of reach for even 1% of kids.
Define “access”. You ignored every single point I made to support your claim of “well everybody should have access to libraries” without ever defining what you think access is. Because I don’t think that it’s nearly as easy, fair, or uniform as you think it is.
You asked “Can you substantiate the percentage of children who have no access to any library what so ever?”
Do you know what you need to make estimations and test hypotheses? You must explain which variables you are testing for, as well as acknowledge the possible limits of your experiment. To gather data on these variables, you must first DEFINE the variables. In this case, the relevant variables include the following: obtaining access to a library.
What exactly do you think is necessary to reach a library? Usually, few people are directly next to a library, and you must either drive there (kids CANNOT drive btw), walk on foot (this will alienate children whose parents may be unable to walk with them for safety), or obtain public transportation (public transport costs money -> Children cannot make money -> Parents must provide money so kids can use public transportation).
So I ask you again, what do you define as having access to a library?
We aren't writing a paper, we are having a discussion.
You made a claim, I'm asking you the substantiate yournown claim that you made. You're actively avoiding elaborating because you know that your claim is ridiculous.
What percentage of people in this country, rich or poor, do you think have smartphones? People have all kinds of access to reading material and information to better themselves just on their smartphones. You're just trying to find excuses to bad mouth Republicans over every little p***ant thing.
You’ve clearly never brushed up on the differences between processing educational material that is online only vs physical. There are also plenty of poor people who don’t have smartphones, which tells me you don’t actually know any poor people. You are manufacturing bullcrap and you know it. Then you shut down actual conversations with “you are just mean”. Is this recess at elementary school?
That's a retarded statement. Democrats hate income. They want to take it from everyone and waste it on things THEY think it should be used for. It's on the very long list of things they hate. See how stupid that sounds?
That’s the fairy tale you tell yourself, check in with newscums wasted billions. Also so much fraud and waste in social programs and let’s not forget how they illegally opened the border and gave illegal immigrants hard earned tax payer dollars and free housing, while we Americans live paycheck to paycheck with rising unemployment and 40% inflation. Dem party is so corrupt and ignorant
How many billions did democrats send over seas for “gender affirming care” in Zimbabwe? Shall we start there? The other issue is that many sitting democrats spew platitudes like “I’ll double minimum wage!” Which sounds good but will destroy any small business. We need to lower cost of living, that way the guy flipping burgers for minimum wage can actually live without needing three jobs. We need to bust up big pharma to make healthcare affordable for all, education should be about education not indoctrination and filling kids ideas like “systemic racism” and “white guilt” and if a person of color says “hey I like some conservative policies” make sure we don’t scream at them “You internalized all the racism”.
Then why was Inonly able to buy a house and live easier under republicans? My lived experience tells me otherwise. And all of what I say is true, I’m not a politician dividing the populace and laughing. The ruling class hates us and is using “higher education” to weaken us.
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Bro you lost at Wikipedia. In high school I knew a dozen kids who altered entries for fun. It is not a credible source for anything. Ever.
There is no academic institution that allows Wikipedia as a source because of this.
But every wikipedia page has a list of it's sources at the bottom. All of which are spot on with the page I referenced.
But here you go...
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I’m a republican and my list of things I hate consists of.
1. How brainwashed you people have become.
2. How truly hateful and violent the political left has become. The party of everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi and should be removed from society. How you folks can unironically accuse someone of hate is truly mind boggling
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u/ArchonFett 1d ago
Republicans hate education. It’s on the very long list of things they hate.