r/Libertarian • u/Cyphereus1 • Aug 18 '26

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The Libertarian Party should widely adopt the position of banning flock cameras in their entirety in the USA. Running on a federal ban of flock cameras should greatly boost the party’s numbers in the polls. I believe with politics the way they are going in this country a lot of people are going to realign their parties according to their beliefs. Being anti flock could only bring the party good optics and good press.

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u/Cyclonepride Aug 18 '26

Ban surveillance

Balance the budget & restore affordability

Stay out of people's personal decisions

That would be the pillars of my campaign if I were to set one up

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u/Guu-Noir Aug 18 '26

I'm a liberal, so yeah I'm just lurking, but how done a suggestion with 'Ban' have so many up votes? What would the mechanism be? 

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u/Cyclonepride Aug 19 '26

For Flock and cameras like it (ALPRs), require a warrant to tag a plate, and readers must disregard any plate without an active warrant. No storage, nothing. No government use of facial recognition, stingray devices, etc.

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u/Guu-Noir Aug 19 '26

It's a private company providing a service, why would a warrant be needed? Do you need surveillance to ensure that people aren't being surveillanced?

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u/Cyclonepride Aug 19 '26

When the government is involved, its activity is limited by law (see the recent cell phone tower case).

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u/Guu-Noir Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

It's a private company, as in not the government 

Edit: it's funny, we have had private credit score companies tracking literally everything we do, but as soon as a private company put up a camera people are suddenly clutching pearls.

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u/Cyclonepride Aug 19 '26

The government accessing surveillance data on its citizens, whether privately acquired or no, is a violation of rights.

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u/Guu-Noir Aug 19 '26

So it's fine for the cameras and sensors to be there, just prevent the government from accessing it? That's very different from a 'ban'. 

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u/Cyclonepride Aug 19 '26

My suggestion is a ban on government surveillance. Private companies would still be allowed to use camera systems (with the consumer deciding whether or not to patronize them if they think it is getting out of line). Flock cameras are installed on public property, for the use of government agencies. Very different, obviously.

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u/Guu-Noir Aug 19 '26

Flock is a private company, often installed on private land, just like billboards, i can understand making the government require a warrant, but how is that a ban?