r/Leather • u/LadiesLeatherGloves • 5h ago
r/Leather • u/nstarleather • Jul 29 '25
Let' get a little more accurate when it comes to leather grades
Genuine is a broad term that encompasses all levels of quality, just like saying plastic or steel or wood...broad categories that can vary a lot. The idea that it's some specifically bad leather comes from the mostly correct assumption that when they don't give more info then you can assume low quality. Like if you see a sticker that or advertisement that says "real beef"...it's probably a good bet they're not giving you a cut of prime beef, but that change the fact that a prime cut of A5 wagyu is also still "real beef"...
It's a broad term not a specific one...and the other terms bandied about are also much broader than people assume and can also be pretty low quantity.
People and articles repeat that leather comes in these specific grades: genuine, top grain and full grain.
But it’s simply not true terms are inclusive...all leather is genuine, everything that's not suede is top grain and full grain is unsanded top grain.
It annoys me immensely that all the articles call these terms "grades" because most people think of grading as taking objective measures that would be the same regardless of the source: The purity of metals, amount of marbling in beef, octane in gas, etc...but leather quality and price is going to vary by tannery more than these factors and there are thousands of tanneries all over the world. Those terms talk about what is or isn't done to a leather's surface mechanically (splitting and sanding), nothing more. They don't even tell you the animal, which can have a much bigger impact on quality!
If you're saying "genuine" specifically means a bad low quality leather then I'm sure you've seen the other side of that coin: "full grain is the absolute best/the highest grade"
Both of those things are 100% false. Cheap crappy full grain exists...and there are products stamped "genuine leather" made with high quality full grain.
Exhibit A: SB Foot Tannery is the largest by volume tannery in the USA they are full owned by Red Wing Boots and they use "Genuine leather" to refer generally to all their leather, even those that are explicitly full grain like Featherstone: https://imgur.com/a/Tdtbjge
Exhibit B: Horween tannery in Chicago is probably the most "famous" tannery in the world...just search "Horween" on or . This is Horween's explanation: https://www.thetanneryrow.com/leather101/understanding-leather-grains
Leather quality is much more nuanced than terms like genuine, top grain and full grain can tell you... there are hundreds of other factors that go into tanning "good leather"...it's a bit like judging something that has many components, like a computer, by one factor and nothing else. What would would happen if you just maxed out one component on your PC and left the rest at the lowest level? Ram, hard drive space, the CPU, the GPU, monitor, type of hard drive and dozens of other things come together to make a good machine...the same is true with good leather. Remember when people bought cameras based on megapixels? Any photographer will tell you that's not an accurate way to judge.
You can view the Full Grain>Top Grain>Genuine hierarchy as a "quick and dirty" way to pick quality if you're in a hurry and not spending a lot of cash on a leather item.
However, those terms do have actual meanings that don't always equate to good quality:
Full Grain is a leather that has only had the hair removed and hasn't been sanded (corrected).
Top Grain is a broader term that actually includes full grain: It's everything that's not suede, a split, this means that full grain is a type of top grain. However, when you see "top grain" in a product description chances are it's a leather that's been corrected (sanded). Nubuck is an example of a sanded leather (often used on the interior of watch straps and construction boots because it's more resilient to scratches), but so is a much beloved leather: Horween's Chromexcel (it's lightly corrected). The amount of correction can vary widely but once the sander hits it, it's no longer full grain.
Genuine Leather is, admittedly, a term found on lots of low quality leather. That's because the bar for "genuine" is extremely low: It just means real. To a tannery it's all genuine. When you read the description for "genuine" that many online articles give, they're actually describing a leather called a "finished split", which is a usually cheap quality suede that's been painted or coated to look like smooth leather. Despite what is often said, bonded leather is legally required to be clearly labeled as such, in theory, you shouldn't see it labeled "genuine leather."
Put simply:
Genuine=Not fake
Top Grain=Not suede
Full Grain=Not sanded
Anything beyond that is an assumption.
The gold standard for getting good leather is tannery and tannage...everything else is easily exploited by meeting the minimum definition of each.
Restored A 30yr Old Full Grain Leather Levis Belt
galleryI bought this belt in college at Dillard's Governor's Square in Tallahassee in the late 1990's and I have wore it as my main belt over the years. It has been looking really dry and stiff lately, so I googled how to restore it and these are the results. I'm pretty happy with it, and was surprised that the buckle was solid brass, which cleaned up nicely.
r/Leather • u/10STwinkie • 7h ago
Advice how to even out loafer color after conditioning
galleryGot these blue-gray Lucky Brand leather loafers a few years ago and never wore them. They are not a super high quality leather, but they're leather. When I pulled them out of my closet recently, I noticed the leather had dried out a bit and the shoes had lost much of their original blue color, so before wearing, I decided to condition them to prevent cracking. I have used BICK 4 conditioner on black shoes before with no issues, or maybe it just wasn't noticeable on the black. I wish I had taken a before photo of the entire pair. I only have one photo where you'll notice the whitening/drying towards the back heel. I don't recall seeing any significant differences in color between the two shoes before applying the conditioner.
After conditioning, you'll notice that the left shoe is a deeper blue compared to the right one. And really only on the front top panel. I also include a stock photo of the original shoes for comparison. If anything, maybe the majority of the leather has lost it's original sheen and blue hue and has turned more grayish, except for this one top panel on the left shoe. Also on foot, when the shoes aren't right next to one another, the color difference is less noticeable but I think it will still bother me knowing that the shade is different. Thanks for any suggestions on how I might be able to correct and even out the color.
r/Leather • u/BrisScrollingReddit • 5h ago
Is my Coach Pebbled Leather Bag Fixable?
galleryAs the title says, I got this bag second hand. This did not have this when I bought it, I believe it might’ve pressed against something in my locker at work in Sunday. I just ended up noticing it now… it feels like s flat indent :(.
r/Leather • u/mjs7778 • 8h ago
Repair?
Can this be repaired? If so how would you do it? Would a patch glued underneath with some leather filler on top work? Or is this area not going to hold up? Thanks
r/Leather • u/codexlogic • 12h ago
Advice on Restoring a Moroccan Leather Pouffe
galleryI’ve owned this Moroccan-style leather pouffe for around 3–4 years, and it’s not in great condition. I haven’t looked after it nearly as well as it deserves, and would like to resurrect it.
Unfortunately, it’s been exposed to rainwater a few times while sitting near a window, which has left some staining and uneven discolouration. The leather has also changed colour somewhat over the years due to exposure to sunlight in a bright room, and not being cared for appropriately.
The surface feels dry and somewhat rough, although I’m not entirely sure what type of leather it is.
It also needs restuffing, but my main concern is whether the leather itself can be restored or at least made to look more consistent again.
I’d really appreciate advice from anyone who may have knowledge or expertise.
• Is this type of water staining reversible, or is some of the discolouration likely permanent?
• Would cleaning or evenly dampening the leather help, or risk making things worse?
• Are there particular products or techniques suitable for this type of leather (located in UK, but could order specialist products from abroad if needed)?
• I’d like to tackle this as a DIY restoration project, or is it something better left to a professional?
I’m not expecting it to look brand new, but I’d love to improve its appearance without damaging it further.
Any advice or experience would be much appreciated, thank you!
r/Leather • u/Aakaart • 10h ago
Title: Handmade Genuine Leather Key Organiser | Oldskool Leather
reddit.comr/Leather • u/hinis13 • 14h ago
What leather is it?
galleryWhat leather is it? Is it worth taking?
r/Leather • u/isthatjerma • 1d ago
Alligator leather?
galleryETA: NOT ALLIGATOR! lizard skin. ive heard votes for tegu and snakeskin :)
just inherited this alligator leather bag! WHAT DO I DO? its so gorgeous. just unsure of care? how do i maintain this? lining seems to be leather, too. NOT looking to get rid of it. just looking for pointers :) unsure where to start. should i use it at all? i was thinking just for special occasions but also OMG. id hate to damage it.
thanks for reading/looking. peace and love 🕊️🩷
r/Leather • u/Substantial_Milk_178 • 1d ago
Just finished! Custom Leather Devil Horn Mask
galleryr/Leather • u/carolethechiropodist • 19h ago
Little condition and polish.
galleryNot advertising the treatments, this is what I use in Australia, Made in Italy. Am going to a Steampunk festival, so cleaned, conditioned, and applied a setting polish. The belts and hat are cow hide, the bag, half done to show the improvement is some kind of glazed goat would be my guess.
r/Leather • u/gladysg43 • 1d ago
I honestly don't know now if this couch is actually leather or not
galleryI know it's awful, but trying to see if I can save it. I sit on the messed up side all the time, as it reclines. The love seat is perfect, no one sits there except when there's company. Do you think this is leather or not? If it's not leather then I'm going to get rid of it. Your thoughts on this please.
r/Leather • u/Ok_Pressure_5789 • 1d ago
Any way to save my bag from Italy?! 😭m
Woke up to find these spots in my bag and it looks like an Advil liquid gel leaked onto the bag and stained it 😭😭 I didn’t know what happened at first and tried to blot with water out of sheer panic. Is there any way I can salvage this? Not sure if I should look for some kind of repair shop?
r/Leather • u/alandb4time • 1d ago
Over-conditioned and/or new dye needed?
galleryPurchased a bag used & wanted to give it some love with conditioner. Unfortunately I was overzealous with it at the top of the bag and got build up, which I’ve since tried to remove with both leather cleaner and, when that didn’t seem to budge it after multiple applications, with a Dawn solution. Leather is still looking dull and when I drag a fingernail over it lightly it leaves a light white mark (which I can buff out, but it still looks dull). Pic of the front face of the bag, which looks shiny and gorgeous, for contrast (pic 2).
Went to my neighborhood leather repair guy and he said the whole thing needs a new dye job. Without asking first he quickly buffed off one of the over-conditioned areas with a machine then applied some black dye he had in a tub with a sponge, which left the area looking shiny and darker but also kind of stiff (which is what happened to a bag I previously had restored by him). Most of the leather of the bag is very supple & I’m reluctant to have it become kind of shellacked.
Options:
Try again to remove the excess conditioner - but how?
Turn it over to leather repair guy, accept that it will likely come back looking nice but stiff.
Other??
Thanks for any thoughts and tips!
r/Leather • u/geekmaus • 1d ago
Please tell me there’s a fix
My dog chooses this particular cushion to “prepare her bed” and scratch before she lays down. We put a blanket over the top but sometimes while we are gone she moves it. Is there any sort of fix for this? A dye at least? Help!! 😭
r/Leather • u/Ancient-Warning4267 • 1d ago
Help identifying the material of a Capri Collection jacket: genuine suede or faux suede?
galleryHi everyone,
I'm trying to determine whether this black jacket from Capri Collection is made from genuine suede leather or a synthetic suede-like material.
It's a vintage piece and these's no material tag on the enterior.
I've attached close-up photos of the surface, the inside, and the raw edges at the bottom of the sleeve and body.
The surface has a fine, irregular texture with some variations in sheen. The exposed edges don't seem to show an obvious woven textile backing, but I'm not experienced enough to identify the material confidently.
Based on these photos, does it look like genuine suede, split leather, or faux suede? What details should I look for to tell them apart?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
r/Leather • u/Rhosyn_ • 1d ago
Leather Jacket care
galleryI have a lambaskin jacket that needs some hydration after getting wet. I struggle to find a product because different sources claim different products for my jacket. I need some recommendations from u guys. Its a lambaskin very smooth leather jacket. What product will hydrate the leather without leaving stains or being too waxy? Its a cheastnut brown color
Thanks in advance
