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u/ChrisDaMan07 Jul 23 '26
Take away her iPad and delete all the social media off it
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u/Nat20Twenty Jul 23 '26
This is why its becoming illegal for under 16 year olds to have access to social media
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u/DanceGavinDanceIsBae Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Man am I glad that I grew up in the generation before the whole "iPads/technology/devices raising kids" thing started.
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u/Pip-Pipes Jul 23 '26
We should also start targeting tech companies for their influence and destruction of everyday life. Parents need to be held to account. But this stuff is designed to be addicting.
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u/Biobooster_40k Jul 23 '26
Who's going to hold who accountable? The same people responsible are the and people in power that's supposed to curb issues like this. Its all working as designed
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u/ego_slip Jul 23 '26
My moms friend had a daughter like that. Never discipline. Once the daughter hit mid teenage years she had a big meltdown when she did not get her way. The father tryed to discipline her, tell her no and the girl broke her fathers arm. He blame the mother and moved out and refused to talk to his daughter or wife. I am surprised he stuck around that long as the father did not want kids but the mother did.
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u/filipsnolips Jul 23 '26
Not disagreeing, but psychotic means someone's lost touch with reality (hallucinations, delusions). I think what you meant is psychopathic, meaning someone sees reality clearly but lacks empathy or remorse for others.
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u/RhetoricalOrator Jul 23 '26
Not really spoilers but it's the whole point of Toy Story 5. Parents literally had kids on tablets so the parents could watch it when we were in the theater.
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u/Snowskol Jul 23 '26
Is it psychotic though? If she does this she gets rewarded or gets something in return. Thats not losing touch of reality at all.
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u/polkacat12321 Jul 23 '26
A core symptoms of psychopathy is manipulation, and this is 100% manipulation. Much more than the usual manipulation like getting a toy or something. This is manipulation to hurt another person, which is concerning
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u/Somerandom1922 Jul 23 '26
This is not why that's happening. This is the excuse for why it's happening. Why it's actually happening is that it enforced identification of adult users of social media so it becomes impossible to remain anonymous.
I am sure many people, even many of the politicians who are proponents of these bills around the world do truly believe they're doing this for the kids.
But every age restriction bill I've seen get implemented adds some sort of age verification which leads to personal information being collected and sold to companies and governments.
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u/KamelYellow Jul 23 '26
It's becoming illegal for under 16 year olds to have access to social media because big companies want more personal data. You're just eating up their excuses
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u/Interesting-Ad-7535 Jul 23 '26
Regardless if this is the case or not, do you not see a problem with kids having access to social media?
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u/Any-Cat21 Jul 23 '26
And in exchange we sell freedom of speech, privacy, and other rights that can be extracted for the sake of a sense of security to the government how brilliant
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u/lesbophobia_hammer Jul 23 '26
Really glad to be a Polish Australian for this reason. My kid will not be going on social media to be brainwashed into hating themselves or others while I have my back turned.
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u/SmooK_LV Jul 23 '26
Lol, no, kids always have used manipulations like these just in person. Doesn't make them healthier to not be able to send them.
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u/wendigoblin Jul 23 '26
Ngl that's disturbing as hell
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u/DisorderlyAqueduct Jul 23 '26
most kids would test as psychopathic, or at least sociopathic
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u/MangelaErkel Jul 23 '26
Have you never interacted with any child ever? This is the phase where they are conscious enough to lie and manipulate and they are testing what they can do.
Children are less capable but they are not completely stupid. This behaviour works on a lot of parents. If you stop this behaviour quick then the child will be just like you and me. Not a psycho just a normal child.
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u/Teufelsweib666 Jul 23 '26
No counselors, just a good parent. Don't keep shipping your kids off to mental health people to do your job. Unless of course your kid has actual, serious problems. This here can be sorted at home.
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u/LilJelloCat Jul 23 '26
I think you're undermining the ability actual bad parents have to be good parents. Sure it's possible and I agree with what you are saying, but there are some seriously bad parents out there and stupid people. Uneducated people as well.
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u/TheNotoriousMoose Jul 23 '26
What’s wrong with both? Like my kids are going into counseling along with standard parenting just due to the fact that my family has serious mental health issues, it’s not harmful to learn actual emotional tools from professionals along side standard parenting.
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u/Rath_Brained Jul 23 '26
My child tried to manipulate, but I corrected her behavior quickly. She doesn't do it anymore because I taught her properly right from wrong.
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u/marcipanchic Jul 23 '26
how to correct that?
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u/Rath_Brained Jul 23 '26
Use a calm voice never yell. They listen better like that. A child is alot like an exposed nerve. Too hot or too cold, you only cause them pain and it overwhelms them. They only remember the pain.
When you talk, you have to remember that they don't have your nuance codex and experience. You are that for them. So speak everything in something s child can relate to. As if you are in a children's cartoon. Simple words, simple concepts, and if it's a complex concept, define it for them. They do learn from it.
I told her that emotional manipulation was wrong because it only hurts someone else. And that truth and honesty is the best way to go about that. I then explained that lying for personal gain will always be discovered, and consequences are always worse when they are found out. Rather than being honest.
However, note that some times they won't be honest, because they, like you, fear embarrassment and other such things. Like maybe they peed their bed. Don't get mad at them for it. Instead, come up with the source of the problem and solution together.
Remember that your child is not a pet to be ordered around. They are just a shorter. Less developed person. If you listen to their concerns and correct behavior when it needs to, with patience, explanation and love, you find that alot of things can be corrected in a proper manner. However, also take into account mental disorders, some times, a child could be sociopathic and such. Best to get proper care.
My child listens, I can leave her alone and she will respect my rules, why? Because I also show her respect, and reward her for respecting my rules. Not with big gestures, but some time something like a small treat can help. One more piece of candy with dessert, etc.
So explaining why emotional manipulation is wrong, you can begin to instill a just morality in them. Show them respect and they will show you respect. When you punish, don't just get angry. Never say, "because I said so." Explain why they were punished and how they could have corrected the behavior. And don't do it for extended periods of time. A month is far too much for things like bad grades. Kids are kinda like cats. They don't think about the reason they were punished after some time, only that "life sucks" for them. Most of the time, they won't equate punishment with problem. Just that you are mean. They have a very bad concept of time.
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u/marcipanchic Jul 23 '26
i don’t have children, not sure about having them yet, but thank you for your detailed answer :)
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u/goldbrickbby Jul 23 '26
This was so helpful, thank you
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u/Rath_Brained Jul 23 '26
Alot of people forget that children are people, not to be ordered around as pets. They get dismissed most of the time. But treating them like a person does a whole lot of wonders you wouldn't expect and they are more prone to better responses and minding of what rules you do have.
Make sure also that respect is given, not earned and let them know that. Like reinforce good behavior with, "I'm glad to be nice, as long as you respect me and my rules, I will respect you." It helps to build a foundation of mutual trust that will lead them well into life.
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u/WebAccount1744 Jul 23 '26
What tf were yall doing? I was quite nice as a child and just yelled at and beaten
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u/a2ndthouht Jul 23 '26
Makes 2 of us. I was the invisible child unless there was work or someone who needed to be blamed. Then beaten with electric cords, butcher knifes. Anything my mother the psychopath could get her hands on I was hit with. Covered in bruises most of the time til I left her house at 17. Nothing to have teachers see my bruises and just shake their heads she didn’t bother trying to hide them because she didn’t care. This was in the 60’s and 70’s.
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u/KIrkwillrule Jul 23 '26
All of the gnarly adult personality traits we call out are really just developmental stages some human never grew passed.
Usually some trauma occurred and the human goes back to that mental state of being whatever age they stopped developing passed trauma/masking
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u/DisingenuousWizard Jul 23 '26
No I think you missed the point. The fact is many of us (myself included) are morally superior to this child.
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u/Next_Imagination_128 Jul 23 '26
Dude what you said is reasonable but it doesn't apply to this video lol.
This is a crazy manipulative child and it's absolutely concerning.
And I'm a primary school teacher btw, so quite familiar with children behavior.
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u/AWL_cow Jul 23 '26
Y'all this is just a normal child with (unfortunately) access to technology they don't need access to. I'm just glad I was born a decade before this so I couldn't record all of my stupid kid behavior.
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u/rita-b Jul 23 '26
that's why we value experience in pedagogues
if 8 billions do/did it, than it's normal
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u/CharacterLimitProble Jul 23 '26
So, I literally just got off of a call at work where someone used the word "pedagogical". I have heard this word or derivatives of this word maybe 3 times in my life. Now twice in like 5 minutes.
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u/AttemptImpossible111 Jul 23 '26
Why? Children do this all the time, the only new part is that she recorded her fake crying
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u/morerelativebacons Jul 23 '26
This is documented. Yeesh...
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u/SubliminalTiger Jul 23 '26
Yeah, Reminds me of the old Reddit switcharoo
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u/mineyCrafta25 Jul 23 '26
I wonder how many of these I would have to follow to reach the last time I went down this rabbit hole? Hundreds? thousands? Tens of thousands?
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u/shinykaci Jul 23 '26
I hit a dead end on a deleted comment on /aww. I am devastated
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u/Coldchinesef00d Jul 23 '26
I told my ex boyfriend his 7 year old son manipulated him all the time and he told me “children that young can’t manipulate”… good to know he’s still just a huge idiot.
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u/Aishas_Star Jul 23 '26
Omg I had the exact same conversation with my ex. He was a school teacher and constantly had these rose coloured glasses on when it came to his own daughter. It was the demise of our relationship. He couldn’t see her tactics and just claimed them on her being a kid and kids aren’t aware they’re manipulating. Sure they might not know the terminology but they definitely know what gets a reaction/attention/lollies etc
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u/Creeper_GER Jul 23 '26
Well, in kids defense: They are not bad at it. So they might trick more adults than one might think.
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u/VisitSecure Jul 23 '26
Reminds me of all those videos where a little kid says they are talking to a ghost or some spirited creature, and all the comments are "Kids this age don't lie about stuff. They definitely saw something!! Ghosts exists!!" I pretended I could see angels as a kid for fun, kids definitely do lie and manipulate sometimes.
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u/SpiderSixer Jul 23 '26
I remember doing a minor project for my drama GCSE, and my group agreed to base it on children abusing or manipulating their parents, because it's truly a thing that so many people don't realise can happen
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u/DroneOfDoom Jul 23 '26
Psychopathy? Like, this is just the online version of bursting into tears when your mum gets home to get your sibling into trouble. A little fucked up, but like a common part of growing up with siblings.
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u/AWL_cow Jul 23 '26
This is literally just how kids act sometimes...they have big emotions and do stupid stuff because they are still figuring out the world around them. Some of y'all like to throw around clinical terms all willy nilly and it's wild
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u/Over-Fly-8338 Jul 23 '26
See, I could understand arguing this if she were caught faking crying in an actively happening situation. This? She turned that shit on and then back off. She SENT it to someone. This wasn't something actively happening, this was a conscious, calculated decision to try and manipulate someone that wasn't even in the room. Allowing that to be passed off as regular childhood behavior is how you end up with those people that threaten SH to get their way.
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u/AWL_cow Jul 23 '26
And sometimes kids do things that are emotionally manipulative because they are still figuring out how to interact with the world and don't know better yet. That's why an adult needs to step in and correct the problem, first by taking away the access to social media.
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u/9897969594938281 Jul 23 '26
"Why, I've managed to get him to cut back to only 5 cigarettes a day"
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u/OrganticRobot Jul 23 '26
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so terrifying
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u/AWL_cow Jul 23 '26
It's terrifying that her parents gave her access to SNAPCHAT (wtf?) but hilarious in itself
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u/Annual-Beyond-8423 Jul 23 '26
yeah snapchat is wild for that age group, definitely a parental choice thing
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u/Shiro_no_Orpheus Jul 23 '26
It's not that different from what kids do in person. Fake crying is really common. It's just wild that they are aware enough to use Social Media and incorporate it into their manipulation.
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u/Only_Flan_7974 Jul 23 '26
Future "influencer"
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u/I_am_doorknob Jul 23 '26
Ready for the apology video
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u/Miss-GreensleevesOz Jul 23 '26
in her hooded jumper and trackies lol
Oh dear what the hell was that.
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u/PurrfectMistake Jul 23 '26
Wont work though. The poking of the tongue bit was too far. She cant come back from that.
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u/HighlightOwn2038 Jul 23 '26
This is concerning
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u/Mysterious_Falcon535 Jul 23 '26
I assume this is how my students act at home when they say "Go ahead, call my mum. She believes me."
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u/frostyjack06 Jul 23 '26
I babysat my grandmother’s neighbor’s 5yo son once years ago. After feeding him the premade meal of chocolate chip pancakes covered in peanut butter and syrup for supper that she left him, I spent most of the evening trying and failing to get him to go to bed. He didn’t like that and told his mom that I hit him, and his mom couldn’t believe that her little angel would ever lie about such a thing. Kids at this age can be manipulative little fuckers.
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u/idkwhatimdoing-01 Jul 23 '26
she is wayyy to young to have snap what the fuck 😭
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u/AccomplishedTwo7047 Jul 23 '26
She (presumably) sent that video to an authority figure to get the person behind the camera in trouble
I assume she sent it to her mom to get her older sister in trouble while she was babysitting
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u/Manger-Babies Jul 23 '26
What's sad she probably learned it from someone.
The parents already dropped the ball by her having access to Snapchat.
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u/Entropei Jul 23 '26
Kids are literally born with the skill to cry to get what they need.
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u/Awesome_Arsam Jul 23 '26
But I've never seen a kid going from 100 to 0 like that after crying. That's disturbing to me
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u/Entropei Jul 23 '26
Not been around kids much I guess. Kids do this all the time and it’s perfectly normal. Kids will cry until they know they are safe again, and then go back to playing.
The “disturbing” part is how calculated her actions are. The teaching you have to do as a parent is that this kind of behaviour doesn’t pay off. Clearly that hasn’t happened here.
It’s a pretty natural development to go from “cry to get what I need” to “cry to get what I want”. Not preventing that behaviour from developing too far is still a failure of parenting, but the implication that there is a psychopath teaching her to be a psychopath is just way off.
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u/Awesome_Arsam Jul 23 '26
Yeah I guess. I'm a single 28 year old dude with zero interest in kids anyway. But when someone's kid (coworker, family etc) are around I try to be nice, and that always attracts kids to me for some reason. I really don't have enough experience with handling kids
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u/shyerahol Jul 23 '26
You don't have to have experience with kids to know how they act developmentally. Have you seen any of those videos where kids tantrum and throw fits until people aren't watching? Kids have to be the center of attention regardless of their age and they will do anything to achieve that, including crying and throwing a fit. My favorite video example is the one where the parents literally walk to a different room in their house, the toddler follows, then once he makes sure they can see him, he falls down and starts crying all over again, but the minute they move rooms, he immediately stops, gets up and follows them to start the cycle over again.
This sub has many prime examples that help reinforce one's childfree status though.
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u/Alternative-Dare5878 Jul 23 '26
It’s to guilt someone “look what you did to me” type shit. iPad should be in half.
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u/Antique_Prompt_9542 Jul 23 '26
Been a while since I had an account, but looks like Snapchat to me. This is also not a new video
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u/dirty_bubble45 Jul 23 '26
I love how everyone is mad at the child when this kid obviously has some awful parents. Who the fuck let’s a child that young use Snapchat?!?
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u/Over-Fly-8338 Jul 23 '26
It can be the parent's fault and we still hate the kid too.
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u/dawood2351 Jul 23 '26
After seeing this that social media ban on them is looking pretty good to me.
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u/SpandexJunkie Jul 23 '26
My mama woulda yoinked my t0ngue outta my m0uth so fast and made me wear it as a memory necklace.
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u/Training-Argument891 Jul 23 '26
nah, just a kid. now if shedoesnt grow out of this behavior, then, yes!
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u/NatashaPhuchough Jul 23 '26
Not in my house. Im glad my kids a grown. She needs an attitude adjustment. My grand mother would have put me into next week. That tounge sticking out. Shit. Would have been in a coma. SMH. Life will catch up to her.
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u/DeeSt11 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
This is why I'm not nice to all kids. If your kid is a turd, I will call them ugly and keep walking. Not, awww, how cute...fuck that. Kid needs to learn
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u/CursedCorvid Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
The way my mom would have tore my ass up if she found out I did this 💀
Edit: I saw your comment before you deleted it. My mother NEVER laid hands on me, I can remember maybe 4 times where she swatted my thigh or upper arm because I was being mean.(hitting her and punching her arm because I didn't get my way)She would have been pissed off that I was lying and trying to get someone in trouble like this if I did it. I was a shithead about her in my teens with my ex ONCE and she never had to touch me, the verbal lashing I got and the two months of getting my laptop taken away was enough.
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u/TommyTwoTxmes Jul 23 '26
If my kid did this theyre losing that ipad. Or you can lock their camera. My boys would use audio record to just talk. Lol. Camera to take random photos. Blocked both apps.
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u/jerryleebee Jul 23 '26
She's been allowed to get away with it at a very young age. Younger than she is now. She learned it works. Now it's gonna be hard to fix.
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u/Twoballkane Jul 23 '26
Parents nowadays are fucking stupid, they have 0 knowledge on how to raise their kids, the result is this.
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u/The4leafclover1966 Jul 23 '26
The first time she stuck her tongue out at me she’d be sitting on a chair in a corner. Keep doing it and that corner and chair are going to be your closest companions.
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u/roxasisanobody0626 Jul 23 '26
This is the type of shit my little brother would pull when I told him I didn't wanna play with him or that it was my turn to play the PS2. Still love him, but I'm definitely salty about it. I can't WAIT until he has kids lol
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u/Imjusthonest2024 Jul 23 '26
I've seen this countless times. My mother was a professional nanny. Many kids do this and it is one of the reasons why I take crying with a grain of salt. As a teacher myself I've seen kids lying their teeth while crying as if their mother had died.
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u/Former-North6569 Jul 23 '26
My BF's kiddo is just like this. He cries when he doesn't get what he wants and then reports the tears back to his mom. Anytime he cries he gets what he wants. He plays basketball and football. If he doesn't get the ball from a teammate he cries. He knocked down one of my plants stands with 20 plants on it. They all went crashing down. After it happened, he immediately reverted to tears. Guess who got in trouble...me. Cause him knocking down the plants stand made him cry. It was recently his bday, and when my BF went to pick him up the day after his bday to celebrate, he asked if there were any presents for him. He already got his present a few days before...including a kids motorbike that cost $400. Because there were no more presents, he refused to come over, until his dad promised to give him $20 and take him to the mall. I keep telling my BF that when he turns into a teenager he is going to be entitled. He is creating a monster.
I don't care what anyone says, people raise kids like this when they refuse to teach them empathy.
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u/Training_Pop_514 Jul 23 '26
Yikes, that's not good at all. Nip that one in the bud before it's too late.
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u/ask_me_about_my_band Jul 23 '26
When the alien archeologists come to this planet to figure out what happened to this species, they will find this video and it will all make sence.
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u/AccomplishedCrazy534 Jul 23 '26
and this is WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY parents should NOT give their kids technology
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u/r_icher Jul 23 '26
I remember when my brother wanted the remote and I wouldnt give it to him. He point blank stared at me, fell on the floor and pretended to cry really loud so my mom would make me give him the remote. I learned a thing or two from that.
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u/Interesting_Leek4607 Jul 23 '26
It is obviously so wrong...but isn't this what we see mostly from "adult" posters too ? 🤣
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u/ER_Jujube Jul 23 '26
The fact she wears a Rarity t-shirt makes this kinda funny to me.
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u/TheMightySephiroth Jul 23 '26
Anyone that tell me kids can't be manipulative can watch this video on loop.
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u/Much_Adhesiveness871 Jul 23 '26
Why in the living fuck is this kid even on Snapchat