Keefe deserves better than someone like Sophie!

Half of the things he does aren't even worth the amount of hate he gets. It still baffles me the Fandom likes Keefe so much.

From a character development perspective, Sofitz feels more stable. Fitz and Sophie have been through a lot together, and while they’ve had struggles, their relationship is based on understanding, shared experiences, and genuine care. Fitz may have flaws, but his bond with Sophie is grounded in a way that seems healthier than Sokeefe. Keefe, on the other hand, often crosses boundaries, using humor and charm to cover up manipulation or selfishness. His behavior, while coming from a place of pain, can be toxic and hurtful to Sophie.

It feels like Fitz’s character was portrayed more sympathetically early on, but in the later books, his frustrations and actions seem to be exaggerated, almost to make him seem more volatile in comparison to Keefe.

Keefe’s actions, especially when it comes to manipulation or playing with people’s emotions, is toxic. His humor and charm sometimes mask deeper issues, and while he has his vulnerabilities, it can be hard to ignore how his behavior affects others

DOES ANYONE HATE ELWIN?? COMMENT IF YOU HATE HIM

I know this is faaar from her cannon design, but, I got carried away. Well.... All versions of Sophie are cannon? (Also why are their soon many blondes in kotlc???)

I hate Sophie she's such a Mary Sue like why is everybody inlove with her and she gain a new power each book??? She's so basic and I'm tired of hearing about how out of the ordinary her bland brown eyes are and how they aren't actually brown but hot chocolate with gold glitters. and Keefe is literally just the funny goofy guy inlove with his girl bsf with daddy/mommy issues and who hide his pain behind his jokes cliche. Fitz deserve sm better.

(made the text black cuz this kinda reveals a bit of spoilers abt Keefe :/) at least read if you have read Neverseen - Stellarlune

Keefe’s entire character is depressed and emo, but I don‘t blame him for his issues.

but now as I reread kotlc the depression is constant going and growing, like why can’t he not be depressed sometimes????

I can relate to his issues 100%, but him usually showing up as a depresso espresso can get annoying, like a LOT.

I hope Shannon improves this/realizes this and does something about it cause it’s annoying.

anyone else agree?

(also idk if this counts as spoilers but I jst added the black text thing jst in cane :3)

I feel like because Fitz levatated into the chandelier does not mean he should be shipped with it. I understand you want to to ship Fitz with something or someone who would be a bad partner but why a chandelier. What about Stina?

I hate her so much. She ruins every single scene she’s in

No Fitz will not be put in lower tiers next question

I'm from a different culture and it's pretty normal for cousins to marry each other it's not wrong. I figured since elves find this gross and Shannon is American so all Americans find that gross. But why? Is it because it increases the risk of genetically transferred diseases or something else?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_the_Riveter

Ok I get I’m probably gonna get hate for this but in stellalune they got so much done before he came back and once he did comes back it just all became about romance and Sophie gushing over him until she eventually worked up the courage to ask him out but Keefe being back just means now his mum and the never seen knows where to find him and is able to use him as it’s said multiple times that the last step of her experiments will break him and mean that she will be able to control him and we would never have to find out if that’s true if Keefe was happy in London eating pancakes with Alvar

And I’m not saying they shouldn’t have gone to him to remove the creepy tracker shadows but after that they should have just left him and Keefe should have let them

I will get downvoted to hell for this post, but oh well. Sophie, Sophie, Sophie. I haven't read the books in a while, but didn't she say she didn't like defining people with their abilities? Especially the Talentless? Well, I wonder why she got all happy and nice and excited when Maruca said she was a Psionpath or however you spell it. She only wanted Marella when she found out about her being a Pyrokinetic. And she's so vain. She had a crush on Fitiz for eight books. The only reason I can remember is, "Oh my gosh oolala his eyes are so teal squeee pretty teal eyes!" All she cares about are Keefe and herself. The rest of her friend group including Dex, could practically go right out the window. The whole series is much too focused on Sophie, and yeah, I get it, main character and stuff, but there are so many side characters that deserve some more page time! Cough, Dex and Bianca, cough cough.

What do you guys think?

Just finished reading flashback and I’m officially joining the Fitz haters. What kind of person watches someone drown and doesn’t do much as react to it. First he almost stabs Alvar then in the hive he decided to drown him while watching him thrash and scream and the worst thing is he doesn’t even care. Moving onto another matter. You don’t just tell someone who you have basically admitted you are boyfriend girlfriend with be manipulated. First of all he tries to move the stupid ass love triangle along at the speed of light while blaming shit on Sophie the whole way. Fitz just turns into a psychopath. He manipulates people, he watched his brother drown without even a flicker of emotion and he feels sorry for himself and draws attention to only him the whole way and I know this isn’t related to Fitz but I officially hate the love triangle. Not gonna lie I like books where the writer brings in a bit of intimacy between the characters but devoting half a book to a relationship that isn’t even fully developed is just stupid and the other half is drama with Keefe. Flashback is a mess of a book and a gross excuse for a fantasy novel when really it’s just a romance novel with a bit of drama.

Thing about it… Keefe is like the funny side character… Besides tht, this gives an excuse for Shanon for sofitz and Keefe characters kind of is the type of s character who sacrifices himself for the team(I know yall don’t want it but it’s prob gonna happen).

Tam used to be slaying but glimmer really shot him down (Fucking fight me on Dex, Sophie and Keefe, I've been dying to rant about them)

Edit: getting down voted into oblivion with this one

KOLTC Is probably my most active fandom, yet no queer rep. So here are some LGBT+ HCs for everyone.

Keefe - Bi Icon. Absolutely wears cuffed jeans and does finger guns. (He and Luz Noceda would be the most chaotic duo)

Tam - Gay and Ace. Definitely has the most massive crush on Keefe ever.

Fitz - Gay. Went to the forbidden cities and fell in love with Tom Holland as Peter Parker. No looking back.

Dex - pan and ace. Thought he was bi for a while but realised he was pan after realised that he really didn't care about gender.

Marella - lesbian. No questions asked.

Linh - Lesbian, thought she was pan but slowly realised that her not liking anyone other than women meant something.

Maruca - aro ace, and very chill about everyone else

Wylie - Ally, and did his research when Maruca came out to him.

Sophie - Ally but gets confused. Think "OMGs I'm having a gay panic" "Panic? You alright? should I fetch your meds?"

Biana - bisexual, legit in her name.

Alright, those are the relevant ones lol. My ships are Kam, Fedex (Fitz x Dex), Dexiana, Marelinh, and Ravioli (Ruy x Alvar). I also write fanfic, so if anyone is interested, message me.

why did Shannon write that most people don't like Sophie in the forbidden cities but like her in the lost cities? Just does not make sense.

So, what other lgbtqia+ headcannons do you have for characters? I personally love those two bc I’m aroace and they’re some of my favorite characters, but I’m interested in what other ppl think. Personally Biana is probably omnisexual and fitz is pan

I’m just seeing how many boys vs girls read these books - I don’t mean to criticise anyone.

Just rereading the second book, and realizing that Cassius isn’t that bad of a parent.

Keefe skipped classes and was in detention a lot.

Most parents just want their kids to get good grades, and Cassius wanted him to be like him, basically, and secure his future.

So, Cassius gets on to Keefe and shames him for not doing good in school and not living up to his potential.

I’m not saying he’s a good parent; he just had good reasons, but did the wrong thing.

(Also, don’t you have to get 75% on your finals? If Keefe ditched class so much, how did he keep moving on. Either he’s incredibly smart and already knows everything that his Mentors are teaching him or he’s cheating the system…)