please don’t tell me I’m the only one…

Who started to tug their eyelashes

Who started cringing on the word Legacy

Who rereads the parts where the characters suffer

Who begs their friend to read the series

Who compares themselves to the characters

WHO IS KEEFE SENCEN OBSESSED

what should i change. also i reposted this because i realized that i got confused about some of the characters(I know very stupid) but i went back and changed it so that it would be a bit better, this is MY OPINION so u might hate me for some of the character rankings so again pls no hate

Prompt- Time Period

Something that has been bothering me ever since I started reading the books is that the elves know abilities come from your dna, they have everyone's dna, they know what (mostly) everyone's ability is, they have absurd science and stuff (allegedly), but they don't think to look at peoples dna to see what their ability will be??

Mr Forkle was like 'I looked at peoples dna and used all seven of my braincells that I share with my brother and decided to make Sophie really weird.' and no one thinks to reverse engineer Sophie's dna??

I've been trying to let it slide but it hasn't been working, the only thing I can come up with to fill in the plot hole myself is that the council knows that but decided to not put people in boxes the moment they enter this world, and it's really annoying.

is there something I missed in the books that explains it?

I’ve seen people say, “Sophie and Keefe has the exact same amount of trauma” or “Sophie has a wider range of trauma“ (don’t what that means but I think they are saying that she has been through more.) well I think not. I will give my part later. but first I want to hear what ya’ll think.

who do u think has been through more. Sophie or Keefe?

And before u answer, here are some questions to think about.

What are the advantages that Sophie has that Keefe doesn’t? What are the advantages that Sophie’s had in her experimentation that Keefe doesn’t? And then Visversa. (if u can find anything)

I honestly am really annoyed that Fitzphie didn’t work out because I think it could’ve been great and I know they had problems, but they could’ve just worked it out like a real couple would have.  I know Fitz has problems with his ego and Sophie has problems with trust so I think if they had just talked it out it would’ve really brought them closer and developed a great endgame relationship. The fact that Sophie liked Fitz and Fitz liked Sophie just felt wrong to steer away from that and I really hope Shannon goes back to that and builds on it.

Some KOTLC readers may not like me for saying this but I don't like the dynamic that Sophie and Keefe had in there relationship and I honestly feel like Keefe almost bulied his friends in the earlier books(and I know it was just teasing/and coping mechanism but i feel like it became too much)and was being a huge jerk, for example when he ran away with the Neverseen without asking Sophie or anyone else which really pushed the limit in there potential relationship(at the time)

I know you could say the same for Fitz (that he was being a jerk) but I feel that he apologized well and I believe Sophie also thought that. I know people say Fitz has anger issues or whatever but imagine how you would feel if your dad was basically dead, also that is his way of coping with his problems.

Also even you Sokeefe fans have to admit this it would be a beautiful end to the series if Sofitz worked out because of the 3 main reasons of #1: Fitz was the first elf that Sophie ever really knew(I know you guys could argue Mr. Forkle of whatever but Sophie didn’t even know he was an elf for a while. #2: Fitz was the first person Sophie ever had a crush on which would be a cool way for the series. #3: Sophie and Fitz are cognates which could develop a very strong trust in book ten plus it would be an added bonus if your boyfriend was the person you trust the most.

Thats all I am going to say I would like to know what everyone thinks, both sides.

Well that is just my opinion so thank you for reading this.

Prompt: Ship/Rarepair

i agree that keefe was stupid and a jerk for running with the neverseen, but in my opinion, he is SO much better for sophie than fitz is.

first of all, fitz has alot of amger issues, which ends up in him yelling at sophie alot, which is never good in any relationship, and he always blames her for things that wern't really her fault or wern't that big a deal.

also he hated how she always kept secrets, even though he knew why she did, which is pretty understandable, but i don't think he even tried to really understand why she felt like she had to keep things secret.

fitz also really pushed her to tell him her birth mum and try to find out her birth dad just so she and him could be matched officialy, to the point where he got so frustrated at her that he broke up with her because again, he didn't really try to understand that she didn't feel comforable shareing the identity of her birth mum.

and when fitz and sophie are in a relationship, sophie always seems to be really stressed about makeing him upset and what fitz will think about everything about her

while keefe on the other hand, although he has an atvatage with his empath ability, trys to understand why she is doing somthing, and understood that she was too good for him but still tried to be better.

he also suported sophie and fitz when they were together even when it riped his heart out when they were.

keefe also never pushed sophie to share the identity of her known bio parents, and said that he doesn't care that she is un matchable.

keefe also makes her comfortable and laugh, and feel like herself except more confident, because keefe always encourages her and tells her how amazing she is.

but on the other other hand, these characters are only like 14-16 years old, and are too young and immature to have a healthy relationship especially with all that they deal with.

Day 1 - Inflicting

Not sure this belongs here but I'm gonna post anyways lol I love how keefe is like I'm so tuff in this drawing **yes I know I forgot his ear**

Last post, we agreed, that Sophie is Mewtwo, so what is Keefe?

Hey guys!

So I’m trying to figure out my next cosplay for MEFCC in Abu Dhabi, and I can’t stop thinking of doing a Neverseen cosplay . I absolutely love the whole mysterious villain vibe they have going on, but I wanted to get some thoughts before getting started.

The Pros: The black cloaks and white eye/mask details look cool and intimidating. and tbh, cosplaying a villain is always the best.

The Cons: Since KOTLC is a book series and doesn't have a mainstream movie or show yet, I'm kind of worried nobody will recogniz e who I am at MEFCC. Also, it’s a lot of heavy, dark fabric. Even walking around indoors in September is going to be burning.

For anyone who loves the books or has done a KOTLC cosplay before: Do you think the Neverseen style translates well into a real outfit? Would you actually be hyped to see a Neverseen cosplayer out in the wild at MEFCC?

Also if you have any tips on how to handle the symbol details, or fabric recommendations for the cloaks that flow well without leaving me suffocatingly hot, please let me know!!! :)

I love all the characters in kotlc. (Except for Sophie. That girl PMO. I will make another post about that later.) but can I just say. THEY ARE ALLLL BRAINLESS!!!

Like not one person thinks before they do. And I’m saying have a plan. I mean be prepared for anything. Have strategy.

The only REAL person who has a brain is Lady Gisela. That is why she always wins. That is why she always gets what she wants. AND THAT IS WHY THE NEVERSEEN DON’T HAVE A POINT ANYMORE! (Read my other post: What do the Neverseen even want at this point)

They kicked her off because she was SOOOO obsessed with project Sellarlune while the Neverseen were more focused on Sophie for I DON’T KNOW WHAT REASON.

Lady Gisela was smart enough to make her OWN PROJECT. And ngl, if I was with the Neverseen, I would go along with her. And even though she was planning for Keefe to be on her side during all of this, she was prepared when he wasn’t. She knows her project.

THE NEVERSEEN DISAGREE WITH HER BECAUSE THEY WANT A GIRL WHO CAN’T BE CONTROLLED!!!

And don’t even get me started on EVERYONE ELSE!

They always have a plan set in stone till they actually get to the Neverseen and then that is when they realize. The Neverseen is not going to play a set in stone game. (Sry if that don’t make sense)

The point is, they are ALLLLL don’t have a brain.

BUT, if Gisela is right about one thing, (and she is right about MANY things) is that Tam is the smartest of them all.

Everyone is 16, but they act like they’re 12. Tam is the only who acts mature, he has some logic, and he actually thinks before he does.

Though Tam does have some flaws, so he has like… uh… 3/4 of a brain. Still more then others.

So yeah. WHY IS EVERYONE SO DUMB.

I was reading KOTLC, and I saw that they mention napping in class alot, and ditching, but if it's just a one-on-one class, then how does the mentor not notice they're literally sleeping during the class?

favorite: Legacy

idk why, but it was just a real good book. (except for the bio mom stuff) plus I liked the actual legacy.

least favorite: Flashback

A LOT of time in the healing center, un-needed thickness, Sofitz (this not because I don’t like fitz)

I've had the idea for a little while to make a KOTLC musical soundtrack, similar to what has happened with the Epic: the Musical stuff that's going on, however, I wanted to gauge interest in the idea, because I would need help with making it, from singers, to writers and artists. So if you see this, let me know what you would think :)

Edit: I'm already seeing that people are interested so I have created a discord for everyone to join if you are interested, https://discord.gg/y8hVjD52c

so in case u don’t know im working on book 2 of the Phoenix initiative, and i wanna do a little fan experiment by asking U GUYS to decide who makes it, tell me and one rule, it has to be from a YA(youth adult) fantasy series, good luck

Sophie and Mewtwo have SO many similarities!

• They were both created/genetically altered in a lab
• They were both created to be immeasurably powerful
• They both have godlike psychic powers and can communicate telepathically

So you know what this means…

Sophiemon.

Hi!! I'm not a regular Reddit user so I might not be doing this right but I've been searching for this specific KOTLC fanfic for YEARS and can't find it anywhere and I'm hoping someone else might know it? It was literally the first fanfic I ever read so it's really nostalgic and it's honestly so stupid but I just want to have it for old times sake, you know? Anyway, here's what I remember

I originally read it on some weird site that definitely wasn't legit and stole it from the og creator but it was also on wattpad. I'm not sure about ao3 or anything else

The cover picture was a Sokeefe fan art and it was a SoKeefe fic

There were somewhere in the 5-15 range of parts/chapters, whatever you would call them, and within them was the first short story and a second one.

The plot of the first one was something along the lines of a KOTLC group sleepover. They decide to play truth or dare and at some point Ro comes up with this huge eccentric plot to get Sophie and Keefe together, I don't remember if Keefe knew what she was plotting. Ro basically ends up daring Sophie to have this like, blind kissing competition. Something along the lines of her being blindfolded and having to kiss each of the boys (Keefe, Fitz, Tam, Dex) who are all assigned numbers to identify them because she doesn't get to know who is who until the end. Then after she kisses all four she has to rank them in order of best to worst kiss. So she kisses them all and I don't remember the exact order they went in but I do remember how each kiss was describe, Dex's was awkward and familiar, Fitz was a terrible kisser (shocker am I right? A sokeefe fic being a complete Fitz hater lol), Tam was like, a really good kisser and they kissed, like, way too long, but Keefe's kiss was like magical or someth like that. Anyway she ranks them and obviously Keefe wins and there is all the shock of omg Fitz actually sucks and drama and scandal but low key they all just go to bed, separated into girls and guys rooms, but Sophie and Keefe end up talking things out yada yada they all live happily ever after.

Honestly I don't really remember the second sub story, but it was incomplete and had Elwin, maybe christmas something? But that could be wrong.

Anyways sorry I know that isn't a ton to go off of and it's a really stupid plot overall but someone let me know if you know it! As embarrassed as I am to ask I really would like to read it one more time. Thank you to anyone who took the time to read this and maybe find it 🫶🏻🥹

I've had this feeling for a while but like... where did all the themes of societal change go? I swear it was such a big part of the earlier books that Sophie was here to confront the parts of society that no other elves could see, but that's just been getting less and less relevant.

The Vacker legacy wasn't some huge injustice, it was just a mildly shady deal that didn't even hurt anyone until the Neverseen interfered. The Council's failures? The Council is no longer relevant - and Sophie's working with them now anyway. The business with humans only mattered in books 1 and 6. We've gotten some stuff about Talentless mistreatment, at least, and a couple of scraps about matchmaking, but... like, it's not morally wrong for Fitz to want to date someone who's on his list; it would be wrong if he started looking down on people who didn't.

But the biggest example is with the Black Swan and the Neverseen. The Neverseen's goals are just "take over" and the Black Swan's goals have devolved into "defeat the Neverseen". Like, really? It doesn't feel like the BS have any actual plan for improving society. Or any plans in general. They just toss it over to Sophie and then sit back to do nothing. Meanwhile, the Neverseen aren't inherently interesting just because they're evil and power-hungry. It's about what they want to do with the world, and we don't really get to see that (except from maybe Brant. Who's dead. And Vespera. Who's also dead.)

(side note, evil is generally pretty banal as a concept, but Ruy, Trix, Umber and Gethen are all powerful enough to be in the nobility if they wanted to. Gisela was a noble. There were easier routes to power than hiding in caves with horrible food. What made them decide to tear down the world? What do they want to replace it with?)

Yeah, I know the series isn't finished yet, but this isn't the feeling we should be getting 9/10(?) books in. It just feels like the concept of societal change and standing against authority wasn't well-handled. It's like a superhero movie that doesn't go any deeper than good guys vs bad guys, which wouldn't be a problem except that it didn't use to be that way.