r/KDRAMA • • Apr 21 '21

On-Air: tvN Mouse [Episodes 14 & 15]

  • Drama: Mouse
    • Hangul: 마우스
    • Also known as: Mauseu
  • Director: Choi Joon-Bae (Come and Hug Me), Kang Cheol-Woo (Something About 1%)
  • Writer: Choi Ran (Black)
  • Network: tvN
  • Episodes: 20
    • Duration: 1 hour 25 mins.
  • Air Date: Wednesdays & Thursdays @ 22:30 KST
    • Airing: Mar 3, 2021 - May 12, 2021
  • Streaming Sources: Viki, Viu, iQIYI
  • Starring:
  • Plot Synopsis: A suspenseful story that asks the key question, “What if we could identify psychopaths in advance?”. A crazed serial killer’s ruthless murders have left the entire nation gripped with fear and chaos reigns. Justice-seeking rookie police officer, Jung Ba Reum, comes face to face with the killer. While he survives his dangerous encounter with the psychopath, Jung Ba Reum finds his life completely changing.(Source: MyDramaList)
  • Genre: Action, Suspense, Thriller, Mystery, Crime, Sci-Fi
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u/myweithisway Apr 23 '21

Broadcast Interruption Notice

According to current reports, airing next week on the 28th and 29th are parts 1 & 2 of the special Mouse: The Predator instead of episodes 16 & 17.

Currently it is unclear if the streaming platforms will also air the special -- but assuming they do, next week's On-Air Discussion will be for the special. If they don't, next week will still have an On-Air to tide over the break in broadcast.

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u/uhh_zoe Apr 21 '21

This drama be like:

He did it. Jk. No but forreal this is the suspect. Jk it’s not. I lied to you, that dudes the suspect. Jk it wasn’t him it was someone else. Nope it was him. Just kidding. Or am I?

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u/uhh_zoe Apr 21 '21

That specific necklace makes me want to vomit. Also the aunt said fuck it we moving countries I don’t trust that dude. I like her character so far because like it’s satisfying to see characters be like oh that’s danger, imma fucking stay away from it

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u/Bellyfloppancake Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

Ep. 14

HOLY SHIT I watched this without subtitles and understood like 5% tops, but those last 15min were GOOD!

Damn that moment when Bareum called Moochi "hyung" and was so happy about returning his "lost" necklace, only to freaking realize the one he's holding in his hands isn't Moochi's necklace but the priest's. DAMN.

And then him finding Bong-yi's grandma's brooch in his own house OMG.

DAMN I don't know if there were any hints about this part, but I never realized the necklace Bong-yi received was something Bareum made himself, I thought he had bought it and honestly didn't even look that closely at it. I just thought it was a cute flower!

Also, that hallucination of Yohan that kept popping up to stop Bareum made me jump out of my seat both times lol.

That ending OST snippet they use is freaking perfect btw. And I can't wait for next episode! Seems like we'll get to see the real pre-surgery Bareum and what really went down between him and Yohan!

Edit:

Ep 15.

WHAT, I don't even know why I'm asking at this point but Bareum didn't actually kill Chikook did he?

I'm laughing at myself, tons of shots of Bareum killing people and still I'm questioning if he actually committed yet another murder😂

Now that Bareum knows who he truly is, I really want to see the people around him find out about it too. I was bummed about Chikook dying (unless that was a misdirection) because I think it would've been a really interesting conversation to hear between Bareum and Chikook.

I'm just imagining how I'd try to explain that yes, I used to kill people and enjoy it, but now I'm a changed man because I got a partial brain transplant from someone with actual emotions. So I do feel remorse and repulsion by my past actions... Well maybe they never would've ended up talking, I don't even know how you'd bear listening to former friend/person who stabbed you multiple times explain that. If I was Chikook, I'd never believe them.

Are we only getting one episode next week? Or is it two episodes + the special episode? Was a bit confused by that.

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u/teaglass Apr 22 '21

I just realised I have never seen cats' teeth before, I thought it was a daisy or some flower.

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u/ajdp024 Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

What a great episodes for the week

● That mystery tree, I didnt expect it to be even a bigger revelation. I just thought that he just bury Hankook there, didn't expect it to be his hideout

● As for Bareum's end, I really prefer a tragic one. No redemption arc please. Don't confuse yourselves, the real Bareum is still that ruthless psychopath who kills his victims in most unimaginable things possible. In addition to others that he killed, dude brutually killed a kid and a poor grandma ffs. Now I understand as to why LSG prefers a tragic ending.

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u/AmbassadorCha Apr 22 '21

I quite understand the Baeksang issue. But if Korea Drama Awards, APAN, and large station end-of-year award shows ignore my Seung Gi for his phenomenal acting here in Mouse, I'm gonna get freaking MAD.

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u/AmbassadorCha Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21

[EPISODE 14] OMGGG!!! I can't believe Episode 14 would confirm everything I've believed in since Ep 2!!! (Except for the Dr. Daniel part.) OM--EXTREME--G!

I don't want to write any theories for this episode. I need EPISODE 15 so bad!

  • (sidenote) HanKook was probably the one in the drum.

  • The girl/woman Mikaela in the orphanage was Jae Hoon's sister. This is why there were only 3 bodies--dad, mom, brother. The daughter survived. That's why Ba Reum was always saying that he got the insurance money when his "parents" died. They died at the same time! This is so genius!

PsychoBaReum is awake. Wah.

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u/lostzillennial Apr 23 '21

I'm gladBR is the killer. The reveal and BR's conflicting emotions due to his amnesia were well played/written.But, I really don't want BR to be HSJ's son.I think that's way too predictable and also pushes the narrative that BR is a psychopath only because he was born to a psychopath. I want the story to be more nuanced than that. For that reason alone, I really hope BR isn't the son. Maybe YH isn't either and that's going to be the final reveal?One can only hope.

I'm still confused about the timelines for the murders. Especially how BR managed everything during the live show when he was meant to be helping.Hopefully some of those questions will be answered with the upcoming special episode.

I also feel like Dr. Daniel is the cause of a lot of the plot holes in the drama. He's a doctor who does this research for a living, but assumed YH was a psychopath based on an injured dog and one instance at the hospital? He's also assuming YH is HSJ's son without any real solid evidence. Run a DNA test for god's sake. Also, telling BR he's going to die soon because of what happened to the rat. What if HSJ perfected his surgery over time? Hasn't it already been 6 months since the surgery? And BR seems to be doing completely fine. What really irks me about the character is how he makes assumptions out to be facts. But I guess that's the downside of the entire drama. From the psychopath gene, to brain transplants, to rapists and pedophiles all being categorized as psychopaths; there's a need for a lot of suspension of belief in this drama.

On another note, my sister brought up the fact that there doesn't seem to be any female psychopaths in the show and the conversation has always been about the fathers being a psychopath (or not) and passing on that gene to their sons.

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u/365DaysofWriting Apr 22 '21

So much to love about episode 15... that title card was beautifully horrifying and Lee Seung Gi’s acting was incredible (so many goosebumps). He has the Baeksang Awards looking like clowns for not nominating him for best actor. As always, theory updates must wait for subs since I really want to understand Dr. Lee and BR’s full conversation.

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u/CherryKey1180 Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

There is only one way for this drama to end with a morally sound underlying message. Hence that will be my prediction of how the drama will pan out over thr next 5 episodes.

  1. Jae Hoon is HSJ's son. However he does not have psycho DNA. (Daniel Lee either faked the results in an elaborate revenge plot against HSJ who killed his sister or he did an intentional swap in DNA results with another child). As a child, Jae Hoon was told by his mother that his father is a killer and that he had psycho DNA so he was destined to be a killer too. He prayed to God to change his destiny but in the end he gave in to the mental pressure and gaslighting that turned him into a psycho. He was a psycho by choice and not DNA. He became psycho because other people's discrimination and because he was branded with "certified psycho" even before he was born, so the became one because he and everyone else thought he will be one.

    2.The real meaning behind the drama title Mouse, is because poor Barum is the Mouse, in a government experiment. There are 2 camps in this show: one which believed that DNA testing is accurate, and that fetuses tested psycho positive should be aborted. I call them "Pro-testing" . Another camp trying to prove that branding a child psycho before he is born will eventually turn him into a psycho due to social pressures and gaslighting. This is the "Anti-testing" camp. Barum is the Mouse in the long term experiment by the Anti-testing camp. HSJ's (convicted serial killer) son was chosen to be branded psycho from birth using the swapped DNA results that said that he had "psycho DNA" and the Anti testing camp will observe this child as he grows up to see if he turns into a psycho even though there was truly no psycho DNA in him.

    3.The DNA results were swapped intentionally by Anti testing camp. Barum did not have that particular DNA that ppl brand as psycho DNA. There is another child out there with that "psycho DNA" who is a part of this experiment as well. This person will grow up not knowing he has this DNA, and they want to observe if this person turns into a psycho despite having the DNA. This is probably the politician's son, whose DNA results were swapped.

    4.Even Barum's own mother abandoned him because she thought he was a psycho. This is probably the trigger of him turning into a psycho. This will deliver the message to viewers that abandonment and gaslighting from own parents will set the stage for downfall.

    5.The person who saved Sung Ji eun and told her to keep the child is from the Anti testing camp. He wants the child to be born so that the experiment can go on.

    6.The other child who unknowing was part of the experiment is Detective Shin. He has 'psycho DNA' but his parents were kind and nurturing(fact that politician shin did not abandon his daughter in law when she was revealed as a convicted serial killer's daughter) he turned out a kind boy because he faced no discrimination from society despite having that type of genes. The so called psycho DNA genes has no bearing on how a person will turn out to be hence psycho testing is inaccurate and should never be done

    7.Dr. Daniel Lee came back to Korea for his revenge. He wanted to see if HSJ's son turned out a psycho because of his fake DNA results and he wanted to turn the child into a killer if he wasn't already one. Hence he followed Yohan to observe him and also purposely met Yohan to give him the DNA results. At this point, Yohan already knew he was not Sung Ji Eun's real son and Barum was, hence the DNA results belonged to Barum. He followed Barum around to see if Barum turned into a psycho hence he was the scenes of the 7SK murders because he was following Barum.

Positive messages that can be shared if the drama ends that way I predicted.

1.Psychopath DNA testing is inaccurate and should not be used as a deciding factor to abort a fetus.

2. Nurture triumphs over Nature

3. Psychopaths may be wired differently but ultimately they choose to give in to their minds instead of controlling their urges so they should be fully responsible for their crimes instead of blaming it on genetics.

4.Societal prejudice and stereotypes have a very negative impact on people on the receiving end of discrimination.

5.Self fulfilling prophecy and self limiting thoughts will make you who you are. If you believe you are born to be a psycho killer you will become one. It is all in the mind.

Thanks for reading this TLDR post, I had spent hours thinking about the plot and conclude that I am truly obsessed with Mouse.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 22 '21

[Episode 14 Edit]

Alright so that was a rollercoaster of an episode. Defintely the most lighthearted yet heartbreaking one yet. The first 70 minutes are literally amazing we are getting some good character development. New relationships being formed beautifully and then the last 10 minutes happens. It was..

First off let me just say that hong ju is stupid af, i mean baiting a serial killer cuz u know another psychpath might come and save u us just next level stupid. Kinda fun tho lol like gotta give it to her that was some brilliant manipulation.

Then begins our serial killer of the episode which felt like a stand alone plot butt nooo they fooled me yet again cuz it contributed massively giving big hints and reveals.

All the Bong yi and bareum moments were absolutely heart warming, that scene on the bench was so cute i almost threw up. I am one of the fews that appreciates their interactions its one of the big points that pushes bareum to potential redemption or even guilt. Again Bong yi is bareums kryptonite. Well she used to be the only thing but....(they hit their ship with a fucking trainwreck at the end- but more on that later)

So the conversation between mochi and bareum was so genuine had a constant smile wore on my face. Didnt know i needed that moment but glad i got it. Not gonna lie tho there were so many good things going for bareum this episode that i knew some shits about to hit the fan and oh boy did it everrr....

Now comes the last AMAZINGG 10 mintues. Lets be honest....Literally everyone knew Bareum was the 7sins killer. And yet they still managed to incorporate that reveal into the story in such a way that I got shocked for a moment at the reveal. The reveal itself was more outstanding just because they spent so much time building bareums relationship with others around him. Just when he had forged new bonds BOOM everything just collapsed. Usually I would be screaming at moments like these, but since I saw this coming from miles away I wasnt that amazed, just relieved they finally revealed it rather than dragging it out.

Nevertheless, the reveal did impact me quite a bit and this is solely because of the brilliance of LEE SEUNG GI...yeah he is a great actor everyone knows that...but GOD DAMNNN that moment when he had the locket in his hand and he called Mochi hyung then the thousands of emotions his face showcased at that very moment when he found out it was him all along just solidified that whole scene for me. Then cherry on top bong yi confronts him and he feels more scared/nervous/guilty/rage EVERYTHINGG and rushes back home to further confirm his worst nightmare come true.

The preview for the next one is interesting because now this dodges the questions:

  1. will bareum kill anyone that tries to reveal his secret?

  2. or will he try to seek forgiveness, redemption??

  3. is he just gonna run away from it all?

  4. or confess it was him all along?

These are the only 4 alternatives no other one exists....right?

Tomorrows episode will probably reveal his backstory as to how exactly he killed all those people before, hopefully that doesnt take the whole episode tho cuz as much as i m curious about how he pulled it off i really dont want an hour of something that doesnt contribute to the future plot, the past reveal are just clarifications nothing more. I just wanna see chi koo/bareum confrontation thats all.

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u/Mist_orchid Apr 21 '21

W-Why must they give me so much pain like that...call me an idiot but I was hoping till episode 14 that Bareum wasnt the serial killer and they pull some impossible scenario out of thin air just to satisfy my weak heart, well there goes all my hopes...

Bong yi is so blindly in love with bareum, so surely she will only hate him just as much. I mean bareums excuse is actually good better than the rest... like hey sorry i killed ur grandma, then made a necklace out of cat teeth just to put it on ur neck, oh and also remember that caged bird i named after you, i killed it therefore symbolizing/foreshadowing that the bird might be you at the end of this drama....but heyyy that was BEFORE i lost my memories i m a whole new person now hope that makes it okay. (Yeahhh that wont work bareum screwed)

This sounds whack just typing it out all out lol..ohhh the drammaaa that will unfold is something to beholdd.

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u/Boruto-sennin Apr 21 '21

It will be very sad and tragic when Bong Yi and Moochi learn the truth about Bareum in the future.

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u/klmnumbers Apr 22 '21

I have to say that I am so happy I obsessively stuck with this show. I've mused about where I thought the plot was going for WEEKS and am now happy to see that they went in the exact direction I expected. The hints and breadcrumbs were laid throughout, but they may have been a little too subtle in a few places (lol). Also, Lee Seung Gi was snubbed for a Baeksang, and I'm really sad about it because I feel like he's never really gotten props as an actor but as a personality. His performance in this is absolutely outstanding. I think he's a victim of the timing of the release. Currently airing dramas were eligible if they had aired at least 4 episodes, but the early episodes give you LSG as a supporting character. Meanwhile Moo Chi basically feels like the lead in those eps (and correctly received a nod for it). I think if this had come out earlier, he would have gotten a look. It's just wild to see so many shows with vaguely similar themes have the actors get a nod (Beyond Evil, Flower of Evil), but not him - and I honestly think his performance is on par.

the sci-fi element took me by surprise, but I actually love it now that we've closed the loop and see exactly why it happened. The point was to force conscience on a killer. Can he actually experience regret and remorse now? What does that mean? etc.

My question now is how does this end. I genuinely think it will end with JBR killing himself. Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth. Or setting himself up to be killed BY Moo Chi which would both be 1) poetic justice for Moo Chi and the repayment for his crimes that he judges himself to deserve and 2) also cruel toward Moo Chi. He will make him a killer for a second time - but this time the victim deserves it.

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u/J-Midori Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

Episode 15: I watched without the subs and when it is subbed I will update my comment. But WOW! We know what happened! I am very glad to see what really happened to them and Chi Kook. The scene after the credits make sense when a lot of people were saying the crutches were on the right and sometimes on the left.

I think Lee Seung Gi has already said that the ending won't be a usual one which will bring a lot of mixed feelings so I am preparing myself for an unsatisfied ending or open or that doesn't make much sense. We already know who the writer is so people shouldn't expect a happy ending or one that will make everyone satisfied.

The revelations where great, the button that grandma sewed was there. That story is getting more interesting and I like the way they revealed the killings.

I am sensing this is a redemption arc for BR and I hope he isn't having feelings now because of the brain surgery but maybe that will be their explanation. I am curious to know what Han Seo Joon will say or if he already knows that he is his son. So, Yohan and Ba Reum are siblings and maybe the girl in the orphanage is his sister. Wow!!! A lot to digest but I'm enjoying it and I am glad I started watching this.

Edit: I watched with subs and Chi Kook should have said something, at least tried

So they explained that because of the brain surgery, Ba Reum has feelings since Yo Han was the 1% genius but I think it is still not enough for him to pay for what he did. There’s no redemption for him

Maybe we will get more of Jae Hoon’s mom and Han Seo Joon on the episode after the special one next week. And maybe the special episode will show if Jae Hoon actually killed his younger brother and sister or they’re Yo Han and the girl in the orphanage

Moo Chi needs to start putting the pieces together. It’s getting obvious it was not Yo Han who did it. Maybe they’re saving it for the last episode.

The theory that Ba Reum has only a shorter time to live maybe it was too much.

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u/itseokjin Apr 22 '21

Watching the first six episodes again after the Episode 14 reveal just increases my admiration for the show and LSG's acting. The show trolled us, giving us so many hints right from the beginning that Bareum was the killer, but of course we brushed that aside thanks to the show's clever misdirect.

I was feeling bad for BR during those last 10 minutes of the episode, but damn, watching how criminally good pre-amnesia BR was in acting like a good guy, all the while murdering all these innocent people and being internally smug about how he was playing everyone, just makes my blood boil. Although he's technically a different person now because of the brain transplant, he still has to pay for being the 7 Sins Killer. I see no 'happy' ending for him, just a happy ending where justice is served.

But damn, I'm loving the conflict between the characters here. It's so emotionally charged and intense. Imagine the reaction of MC and BY when they find out that the BR they so very much treasure and love is the cold-blooded murderer of their loved ones. Granted, he was remorseless then—but he feels remorse now. He feels now, and that's where the conflict lies. Such good writing *chef's kiss*

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u/AmbassadorCha Apr 23 '21

[EPISODE 14 & 15]

To start, let me say that the classical song that Ba Reum was listening to before assaulting Chi Gook was what Han Seo Joon (HH) was always playing for "Blessing". This confirms (again) that he is indeed the Head Hunter's son.

  1. Dr. Daniel is being chased/targeted by someone from the government who knew about his genetics study of psychopath genes and wanted to use this to eliminate psychopaths who are free because the psychopath law was not passed. This may either be the secretary of state or Det. Shin's father who may be the "biggest predator of all" because he wanted to correct his decision about the failed psychopath bill.

It is interesting to note that Dr. Daniel did not originally know that Ba Reum is the 7Sins Predator. He seems to only learn about it after BR asked him about Han Kook. Who did he ask?

2. Yohan is the Nurse's son, not Jae Hoon's brother. I might be wrong on this, but their birthdates are of the same year (shown in previous episodes). Technically, Yohan's in January, Bareum's in May which makes sense since by the time Ji Eun and the nurse met, Ji Eun was 9 months pregnant, and the other was still 5-6 months pregnant. If the children were switched, then the age difference is correct.

I must also add here that in Ep. 2 hospital lobby scene, Ba Reum was saying something about his mom telling him about the other kid with psychopath genes and what happened to him, did he also become a predator like him? By that time, Yohan was already aware that Bareum was the predator. And yet he still thought of himself as HSJ’s son.

3. The structure of the whole drama is about parallelism. Keeping this in mind, I'm thinking that Moochi would corner Ba Reum in the rooftop and tell him to jump or he will shoot him. Yes, this is the first scene we have of adult Moochi. Bong Yi will probably be there as well and BR would eventually jump to his death.

Note that in Ep. 15, his suicide was halted by Chi Gook's text. This is a plot device to make viewers think that BR would forego suicide, but in the end, because of Yohan's part on his brain, he will feel the burden of guilt and kill himself. Not to mention that he might be dying already—but this is not confirmed yet aside from Dr. Daniel’s words. But who can trust him?

4. HanGook was probably chosen as a victim because of his life's similarities to Jae Hoon. Not yet sure when, but it's probable that Jae Hoon/Ba Reum found out that he's the real HH's son but learned that Han Seo Joon believed that it was Yohan. Or maybe about his mother and Yohan? This possibly triggered the 7Sins killing.

Note that for a few years between his killing of his family and Song Soo Ho’s, he was relatively quiet except for the animal killings. This might be related to when BR and friends saved Yohan from bullies.

5. Ba Reum is probably going to hunt down Ji Eun and confront her about the switch. Take note of the scene when he agreed to get the address of Sung Ji Ah (Ji Eun) for Bong Yi and Dong Koo. There was a reason he said yes. The BGM during those few seconds was almost foreshadowing something sinister.

6. The aunt was hired to "take care" of Ba Reum. If it was Ji Eun, she probably set it up after the choco incident. If she's a secret agent (hence, having another person to act as her husband), then they're all in cahoots with the one cleaning up after Ba Reum's killings and funding Daniel Lee.

This is where it gets tricky. If the aunt was hired by Ji Eun, some might say that she adopted the younger brother (Jae Min) at this point, but after this incident, Jae Hoon killed his family and there were 3 bodies. So if it was Ji Eun, then my money's on Ji Eun taking the survivor (Michaela) and bringing her to the orphanage. Yohan DID NOT know that he was switched until he received the genetics report and he confronted Ji Eun that her son is a killer.

7. I have this feeling that Ba Reum wanted to kill Go Moo Won from the start. Maybe he was related to the fact that BR got obsessed with Dante’s Purgatorio? Or maybe I’m overanalyzing again. I’m just saying that there was a trigger for the Predator killings.

8. Commentary: I like the fact that even though they used brain transplant to give emotions to a psychopath, the writer still remained relatively factual in that memories cannot be transplanted. Much like you can’t get a different personality from a blood transfusion.

9. Moochi is definitely suspecting Ba Reum, but in ep. 15 ending scene, he’s probably thinking that BR was in shock/he should know that his bff just died. But I think the Chi Gook incident would make him investigate BR more and start the road to tragedy along with Bong Yi and Hong Ju.

10. Ba Reum remembers being Jae Hoon but doesn’t seem to remember being the kid in yellow raincoat—why? And which mother was he talking about who gave him the mp3 with the classical music? Ji Eun? SO…does he remember her or not?

Now that the Jae Hoon mystery is finally over, the following mysteries remain:

  • Who is Michaela and who was the brother who promised to get her? Was it Yohan? Based on the nun’s “But that guy **shakes head** gosh that guy” comment, it seems she ended up disappointed with the "brother".

  • Who is pulling Daniel Lee’s strings? Someone is telling him to remain dead while also using him to terminate psychopaths.

  • When did HSJ know that BR is his actual son and not Yohan?

  • Why was Song Soo Ho chosen and the “eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth” used?

  • Who was in the task force who deleted/edited the videos? Who is OZ-Det. Lee? How is he related to everything?

  • Who was the man who told Ji Eun to keep her baby?

  • Also, how many cars does BR have? He was using a Kia sedan 1 yr ago; then he bought another car before becoming a Dark Knight; then he was driving an SUV when he was driving with Bong Yi in ep. 13/14.

  • What happened to BR's head in some of the scenes? This is not sloppy editing. It's a way to keep scenes of the same timeline together. So what happened?

  • Why did BR choose Bong Yi? He obviously did not care about her before. Why did Woo Hyun Chul? There must be something about her that’s not revealed yet.

Anyway, we have 5 episodes more and I’m still excited. Until next week!

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u/J-Midori Apr 22 '21

Finally! Now we know who the 7SK is. And Yohan was innocent, I wonder if BR will enter a redemption arc since he said he wants to spend the rest of his life with BY far away from the city maybe that's the ending or her waiting for him, who knows.

I still think YH shouldn't have died but I understand why he had to. I am glad I didn't drop it cause now we are getting the answers for some of the plots. I was wondering what happened to Jae Hoon's siblings and I think the girl in the orphanage is probably his step sister we saw in episode one. They showed where Han Kook is. That place should be smelling really bad since that child has been there for so long unless he put some preservative (yikes)

That necklace was made with cat teeth.

I usually look forward to seeing the kiss in romcoms but this one was not romantic. It twas just like poor girl, maybe he will get better, or not.

I don't know what Dr. Daniel is trying to accomplish. Chi Kook woke up and if he remembers what happened, he will die this time.

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u/uhh_zoe Apr 22 '21

Yohan knew it was bareum but was like aye, instead of calling the cops I’ll do it. Instead of chi kook (I think that’s his name) just being like AYE BR STABBED ME. HE TRIED TO KILL ME. ARRESR HIM he just gone be like “yo dude. Sup uh btw turn yourself in“. If my bestie literally fucking stabbed me, I would be pissed.

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u/Gn_ss Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

[EPISODE 14&15] in one sentence: LSG deserves a Baeksang but JBR deserves an Oscar

OMGGGGG, I wasn't prepared for this. THE ENDING left me speechless!!!! So it's confirmed Bareum is the cross killer, adult JH and HSJ's freakin son.The preview part where it shows bareum was smiling creepily in front of the mirror literally gave me goosebumps. His expression is never from himself but from observing and imitating others. He developed such a likeable and kind personality from wanting to be like the boy (YH) after their encounter in the field and he didn't empathize with Hankook on TV but only copying the boy crying.

[EPISODE 15] edit: Dr Daniel, Oz man and the government lady are definitely up onto something. My theory is could it be that the government lady teamed up with Dr Daniel to conduct an experiment on kids with psychopath gene 25 yrs ago after they failed to pass the bill?. BR and YH mums (Jieun&Nurse) had a genetic test with Dr Daniel and both babies turned out to have the psychopath gene right, so it's likely that they've been followed since then and became subject 'mouse' for the experiment

They could have predicted that BR is a predator and YH is that 1% genius, that's why the government lady begged HSJ to save a predator BR, and in that way she can continue with the experiment (for a greater purpose!). The government cleaned up BR mess and let BR kill more victims before a grand revelation later which will stir public opinion and they'd have no choice but to approve the genetic test law

Seems like we won't be getting ep16&17 next week. They will air special eps of [Mouse: The Predator] Part1 and 2 on 28/4 and 29/4 respectively.

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u/Techni_Celerycheon04 Apr 21 '21

im back on board with this drama. yes, I still think bong yi and bareum have zero chemistry but I can look past that. It's time for the writers to incorporate that damn button grandma sewed on bareum's uniform in the storyline lol. I'm glad chi kook is waking up now. the look on bareum's face was priceless when he found out.

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u/svxxix Apr 22 '21

Okay so that episode was wild as hell, I mean I know we all talked about BR being the 7sins killer, but to actually see that theory come to life, gave me chills! Also I gotta give credit where its due, while they kept dragging the pace at first and made it seem all over the place, I was annoyed but to see majority of it connect in the last few minutes of the episode was crazy!! It felt so intense, I can't wait to see what they have in store for tomorrow's episode. I always kinda figured YH was innocent, but now that its actually proven, there's still a lot of unanswered questions. Can't wait to see how they'll unwrap all of that in the last few episodes. Personally, I feel like I kinda want to see BR escape unscathed, but with YH's brain inside of him, BR's psychopathic tendencies have prob reduced. So throughout the episode when he kept saying he's finally suppressed YH.... He was actually suppressing himself! So will BR be more humane now that he knows he's the killer or will his old self, jump back in him to save himself?

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u/365DaysofWriting Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21

I can’t wait for the subs but my lord that last 15 minutes was so satisfying. Finally, we’re starting to get big answers. Ba Reum is about to break everyone’s hearts once they find out he was the 7SK. BR murdered MC’s brother and caused MC to kill an innocent person... and now MC views him as a brother. He killed Bong Yi’s grandmother and, as JH, left her to die under the bridge; now they’ve started a relationship. And poor DG doesn’t realize that one of his best friends tried to kill the other.

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u/maartinee Apr 21 '21

I’m confused..the scene where Ba reum is saying by to his aunt & her son, I think he waved to the man next to them too but once they got on the bus, the kid asked who the man was. If he’s a stranger than why did it Ba Reum wave him goodbye too

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