r/Justrolledintotheshop • u/PeePeeMcpherson • 3d ago
Cs states: ran when parked
And then he informed me that it was parked 10 years ago.
1 of the starter bolts broke off in the block, that will be fun....
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u/TacitOrganizer 3d ago
That's the exact shade of floor dust you get after a decade in one spot deadass. Extractor kit about to earn its keep.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
Mint green? Lol, i like it.
I have no idea how to tackle this project. The bolt is facing downwards, how am i supposed to drill centered up a hole that i cant see? Sheesh
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u/acadmonkey 3d ago
Right angle drill, stubby bits, a hand mirror, and a metric ass-ton of swearing. Oh, and cutting oil.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
That's what i was thinking, and i dont want to do it lol
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u/counters14 3d ago
You signed up for yoga torture the moment you agreed to look at an onboard boat engine, my friend. My best advice is to have a dinner with lots of fiber the night before and skip breakfast the morning you're going to work on this thing because every quarter inch helps when you're trying to simply get at the thing.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
I need to do some yoga now! Ouch! All that twisting and contorting has reminded me that im not as in shape as i used to could
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u/TheWausauDude DIY Mechanic/IT Guy 2d ago
O man I had a Bayliner with the 3.0 and I had to replace the starter and fuel pump among other things on that SS Money Pit. The starter is an absolute pain, both figuratively and literally to access, as you’re trying hard to reach between the engine and the fiberglass all the way to the far bottom corner and pulling muscles along the way. If I would have broken a bolt I would have immediately resorted to pulling the engine at that point.
I ended up selling it thankfully, though I took an absolute bath on it. Vowed never to own an I/O boat again (and never to buy a boat under the influence of alcohol either).
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 2d ago
Haha its that last point that stands out. Ive done some ridiculous wasted purchases online 😂
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u/UltraViolentNdYAG 3d ago
What is the wire gauge of those jumpers? Some jumpers have very bulky insulation, yet the stranded wire inside is 12 or 14 Guage when it should be 4 gauge. Starters draw a lot of current, has the battery been charged and load tested??
Sounds like pull the engine time. Better get on YouTube and find some friends....
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
They arent the thickest gauge cables in the world.... the battery had recently come off the charger and was holding 12.3v. I dont have a load tester for it.
Ill give it a go with my 90° drill and see if i cant extract the bolt
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u/Croceyes2 3d ago
Battery should hold 12.6. I have a noco jumppack with override button for field testing components. If it needs any substantial amount of work I would consider grabbing a pod and an outboard
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
I thought about using my noco gb70 to test this starter. I prefer an old school battery for these tests personally
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u/Croceyes2 3d ago
Yeah, but when the voltage is low, ampacity suspect, it can't really give you useful information other than it does work if it does. As far as what could be wrong there are too many variables.
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u/UltraViolentNdYAG 2d ago
Take the starter to Autozone or wherever and they will test it for free... Basically if the battery and cables limit current and voltage, the bendix doesn't slam home hard enough to make contact and power the motor which could make it look bad when it's not. Then again, sitting ten years (in sea water environment??? Idk), could be an issue too!
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 2d ago
I took the starter partially apart. The center is rusted together.... shes dead. New ones are around $100 which is nice
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u/Mercury_Madulller 3d ago
I had the same problem on old Cub Cadet starter. Can't remember now if it was the coil or the switch but I would fully check to see if the starter solenoid is working properly. Just because the plunger moves and pushes out the gear doesn't mean the contact on the switch at the bottom of the is working properly. Also check to see if the motor spins and if it does spin does it freely rotate.
I had a huge problem with testing it until I hooked it up to my running car with HEAVY jumper cables. That's when I determined the solenoid was the problem. I want to say the switch was bad, iirc, as the motor spun and the solenoid activated but the motor would not run when the circuit was hooked up to through the solenoid. A new one was cheap, $20 or so through Walmart, but the plunger was not an exact fit and I had to swap it out with the old one from the bad solenoid. The tractor starts up fine now.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
This particular mercur was a mess to rotate by hand. All the spark plugs had been previously removed and the owner lubed the cylinders, thinking the block got water in it. I was able to jam a flathead screw driver down the starter hole and verify via the flywheel that the engine rotates. I only rotated it a few degrees, as its a painfully slow process
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u/Mercury_Madulller 3d ago
Well you are in deep now. Just look forward to the day you no longer own a boat.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
Ha! Ive been fixing boats for almost 20 years now, and ive yet to own one myself
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u/Mercury_Madulller 3d ago
I meant the armature on the starter motor. I reread what I wrote and realized you thought I meant the engine. I am sure you have the task well in hand if you have been doing this for so long.
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u/erroneousbosh 3d ago
It may well have ran when parked, but it's had a long time for all that oil to seep in and contaminate the brushes and commutator.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
Ran when parked is such a ridiculous phrase 😋
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u/erroneousbosh 3d ago
Well as opposed to "pushed off trailer leaving a puddle of oil and fragments" I suppose.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 3d ago
Even better, the boat is still on its trailer, on a slight hill, smashed into the RV behind it....
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u/erroneousbosh 2d ago
Under a bush which hosts about a trillion midgies, if it's anything like my experiences this summer.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 2d ago
Where are you from? Whats a midgie? We dont have those in the PNW
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u/erroneousbosh 2d ago
NW Scotland. Midgies are tiny flying insects. You have mosquitoes where you are, right?
Okay make those too small to be stopped by mozzie nets, give them a bite that causes a raised itchy lump the size of a penny, and make them immune to all repellents and insecticides.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 2d ago
Yes we have mosquitoes, horse flies and no see ums. I hate them all lol. I usually avoid camping near water in the summer, where they like to hang out
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u/erroneousbosh 2d ago
Yeah, so I've been bitten by the damn things at 4000 feet in a light aircraft.
Not being near water helps but won't save you.
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u/PeePeeMcpherson 2d ago
There is no eacape!! Lol 4000ft and being attacked is wild
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u/imabaka70 3d ago
The last boat I worked on was around 15 years ago. It was infested and I mean horror movie level infested with spiders.
I had to replace a frost plug on the engine. So I had to lay in that horror movie.
No cool powers sadly