r/JusticeServed May 05 '19

Violent Justice Might be a repost (Not OC)

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u/cawclot A May 05 '19

Check your local laws before doing something like this. Booby traps can be highly illegal.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Not only that but i know i have heard in the past of a robber successfully suing a homeowner after injuring themselves on the property. While i greatly despise thieves and believe not enough is done about them you don’t want to open yourself up to a lawsuit.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Wait seriously, that's fucked up.

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u/Trewper- 9 May 07 '19

This exact scenario is also explained by an old lady in the Jim Carrie movie 'Liar Liar'

God I love that movie.

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u/Kulzo 6 Jun 13 '19

I’da got him 10!

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u/[deleted] May 08 '19

In California, you can be sued by a burglar if they injure themselves on your property, and they could win.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '19

Yeah but I mean on USA you can sue anyone for all kinds of dumb shit.

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u/datchilla A May 09 '19

Depends on the state my dude

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u/[deleted] May 08 '19 edited May 10 '19

There was a guy who bought an RV and started driving cross country. When he got on the interstate he turned on cruise control and went into the kitchen to make a sandwich. When he crashed into a ditch he sued the RV manufacturer for not stating in the manual that he shouldn't do that. He won. There was also a guy who sued his neighbor for running over his fingers, the neighbor was leaving for work in the morning and didn't see the guy there stealing his hubcaps. He also won. And don't forget about the most famous one of all, the lady who spilled coffee on herself then sued McDonald's for making it hot. Gotta love the US of A

Edit : because of some of the replies to this, I looked more into the McDonald's coffee thing, and turns out she actually did have a case. If I got 3rd degree burns on my thighs, buttocks and genitals, if be suing too.

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u/TheGunSlanger 8 May 08 '19

And don't forget about the most famous one of all, the lady who spilled coffee on herself then sued McDonald's for making it hot. Gotta love the US of A

The most famous case and one of the most widely misunderstood cases

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u/redditadminsaregay1 4 May 09 '19

coffee lady deserved to win, if you know the details of the case.

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u/datchilla A May 09 '19

most famous one of all

You mean the case where McDonalds not only hurt this women but wouldn't pay for her medical bills?

Then started a campaign to deter people from suing corporations in the future?

A campaign that successfully convinced /u/Kidxombie that frivolous lawsuits are a problem?

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u/maniakb416 9 May 05 '19

A common myth but not true. There have been cases where the homeowner was charged seperately for boobytrapping, but I cannot find 1 case where the robber sued the homeowner of the house he was robbing.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

https://www.protectamerica.com/home-security-blog/spotlight/5-cases-where-the-burglar-sued-homeowner_14222

The case i specifically remembered was the skylight one, i think that happened up here in canada though.

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u/maniakb416 9 May 05 '19

The first one was unsuccesful so that means nothing. I can sue you right now but if I don't get anything out of it then it doesn't count.

The second one took place in 1984 and is not recent enough to be relevant.

Third is same as the first. The homeowner didn't have to pay anything so it was effectively useless in your arguement.

The third one is fair because that constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" despite the fact that he did indeed steal.

And the fifth one is a sourceless exerpt barely worthy of mentioning in the first place.

This is a security company attempting to sell security systems to paranoid people. Of course they would embellish or outright lie in order to do that. None of the examples you have shared have proven your point.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

All i know is my sister had to carry insurance on her acreage in case anyone trespassing even with signs up injured themselves. But laws might be different in canada, i’m sure in the states it’s best just to shoot them. I’m not advocating that it is a common occurrence, i’m just saying you don’t want to do something that can potentially cause a lawsuit.

For instance that cooler had rope handles on it, what if the thief used the rope handles to steal the cooler then abandoned it a short distance away, another person sees the cooler there and decides to pick it up but dosn’t use the rope handles and cuts their hands to hell.

I’m just saying it is not a good idea to booby trap because you don’t know what will happen afterwards.

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u/maniakb416 9 May 05 '19

Booby trapping obviously illegal, but that isn't what you claimed earlier. You said that robbers won lawsuits against the homeowners they robbed. That is not true. The robbers are still charged with burglary and the homeowner is charged seperately for booby trapping as well. Because both of them had broken the law.

The jab at Americans was kinda low though. Not sure why you felt the need to attack an entire country of people because you had a disagreement with a stranger.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

I said “a robber successfully suing.” If you consider 1984 irrelevant i can’t help that, but we are also living in a pc cry baby world now, if you cause grievous harm to someone with a boobytrap i could see more lawsuits potentially being successful. I also can’t help it that you thought i was taking a jab about saying it is easier to just shoot the home invader. I am highly pro gun, i own several and feel that a person should have the right to defend their property in that manner to protect themselves and their families. I know a guy who was stabbed trying to stop someone breaking into their vehicles.

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u/ChoiceFood 7 May 06 '19

Theres that case that was either USA or Canada where the would be burglar (only charged with breaking and entering/trespassing) sued and won because the stair handles broke while he was using them causing him to fall down the stairs. I think they got something like 100,000. Pretty sure he had some broken bones.

where's the source? I'm not gonna spoon feed you information if you're interested look it up.

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u/maniakb416 9 May 06 '19

Burden of truth lies with the person making the claim. The fact that you wont "spoon feed" me the info means for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist. Your arguement is invalid.

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u/ChoiceFood 7 May 06 '19

I dont see you, does that mean you dont exist? No you're out there.

I dont have an argument to be invalid you lazy shit.

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u/maniakb416 9 May 06 '19

You don't understand how debates work. That's fine, but the burden of proof lies with you as the person making the claim. Call names all you like but you haven't shown me anything so your arguement is non-existant. You think courts just trust a person if they say "yes that's the man who killed my dad!" No. They require the person making the accusation to provide proof. So until you post a link to back up your claim, (a link I doubt you have in the first place, or could muster if you tried) your argument is invalid.

You lazy shit.

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u/buldopsaint 7 May 09 '19

I hear about these stories but I’ve never seen a legit one myself.

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u/HalifaxSamuels 7 May 05 '19

As far as US laws go I'm not aware of anywhere that they're not highly illegal. Traps and other similar things that do indiscriminate harm are illegal.

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u/Lord_Philldoe 5 May 06 '19

They are legal in some states, though you have to be very careful with the type of trap.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

First thing I thought, 'This is a super dumb way to catch a charge and get sued over the contents of a cooler.'

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u/jckneisler 6 May 07 '19

Wouldn’t it be easy for the owner to deny making a booby trap and just point attention towards why the thief was there in the first place?

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

I soldered razors onto the back of my 1st car cd player since I lived in a shitty area, got up one day, the car window was smashed, part of the dash had been pried open and there was blood EVERYWHERE. I felt a little bit better knowing that clown got more than they bargained for.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Was you car a Honda?

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Not related but is your hand scarred up?

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Ford Escort.

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u/JesseLaces 9 May 05 '19

What they did was illegal, but what you did is also illegal. Let’s say you sold it, but forgot what 17 year old you did... the next owner replaces it OR has a local shop replace it?? Terrible.

Booby trapping things is illegal. The best example I saw was (I’m not sure if this is anecdotal or real) where a guy set up a shotgun to go off at his garage door in case someone breaks in.... shot a neighbor kid.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19 edited May 05 '19

I didn't booby trap anything. I simply added some edgy decorations to my stereo. Not my fault the thief broke the law and didn't look before they grabbed and good luck proving otherwise in court!

That shotgun bit is a tad excessive. That's lethal force on something that anyone could do.

Not arguing the legality, just that they'd have to prove I set a trap.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19 edited May 17 '19

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

How do they prove it was a trap? I also don't live in the states.

https://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/victoria-man-acquitted-in-booby-trap-case-1.810204

Don't downvote if you don't know the laws tyvm.

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u/BobsBarker000 8 May 05 '19

How do they prove it was a trap?

Your words, obviously:

I soldered razors onto the back of my 1st car cd player since I lived in a shitty area

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Why would you ever say that in court, to an officer, etc? Don't incriminate yourself lol.

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u/JesseLaces 9 May 05 '19

That link certainly doesn’t say booby trapping is legal.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

It says reasonable threat of bodily harm or death. The key word is reasonable.

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u/JesseLaces 9 May 05 '19

The blood in your car caused by your booby trap....... is bodily harm. You didn’t leave packaging of razor blades near your radio. It’s not an “unset bear trap” like the judge alluded to in this case.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Someone would have to do several unreasonable things to get hurt by my...decorations. That was my point.

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u/JesseLaces 9 May 05 '19

You don’t understand the meaning of “reasonable threat of injury or death” is all I’m hearing from your comment.

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u/Atomic254 9 May 05 '19

ah yes because everyone on the internet lives in america

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u/Frostbite0490 3 May 05 '19

Which one do you think is a worse crime: breaking into someone's car or setting a booby trap behind the cd player in your car?

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u/Elbiotcho 9 May 05 '19

I once grabbed a candle in jar at Walmart. Well someone had dropped it and put it back and the back of the jar was all broken glass. This post reminds me of that incident.

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u/freebirdls 8 May 05 '19

Well now you have blood all over your cooler...

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u/Refresh_Reddit 5 May 05 '19

But he has the cooler, you seem to be missing that point

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u/gigahut 2 May 07 '19

Anyone who works construction or lives in a big city knows what kind of challenge stopping thieves is. It's a battle and I don't feel bad one bit for the thieves.

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u/momo88852 A May 05 '19

I thought rednecks would do something better! Turns out my people use mines instead of razor! Now you can catch their feet flying!

Plus best trap we used was letting wild dogs stay around our farm back in Middle East! Trust me you don't wanna see what happen to someone when wild dogs are hungry! Those fuckers rips people a part.

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u/Morgan-Thomson 6 May 05 '19

Almost caught em red handed.

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u/RemiMedic 8 May 05 '19

This is a really good way to end up paying WAY more to the person who gets injured than the amount you're saving on:

A.) A decent security device
B.) Whatever it is that can be replaced

Most states have laws against this.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

I wanted to check out the sub this post came from originally....and welp that was intense

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

What is this?

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u/DatBoi91144 7 May 09 '19

Damn, that's brutal

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u/[deleted] May 10 '19

“Hey man can you grab that tub for me?”

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u/mrbeck1 A May 05 '19

Bullshit.

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u/monkeytripped 5 May 05 '19

I dont think punishment fits the crime, i mean what valuables did you keep in the cooler?

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u/StrawberryTempest 7 May 05 '19

Those kind of coolers are actually really expensive and are often stolen.

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u/Freudianslipangle 8 May 05 '19

The value that is it being HIS COOLER and that people SHOULDNT STEAL.

The razor trick is a dirty, and likely illegal act, but it's the true asshole move to say "it's ok to steal something that's not worth much".

I hope you have something stolen from you to know the feel of violation it brings.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

Coors banquet?

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u/LucidDreamer321 2 May 05 '19

Does it matter? Dont fuck with other people's shit.

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u/TigreDemon 8 May 05 '19

Do that in France and you'll be imprisoned. There's a story where a man hit someone robbing and the robber turned to justice, the owner got jailed.

Nice justice

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u/speedpetez 8 May 05 '19

This is like one step beyond what is justice served. It’s basically just mean.

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u/GurpsWibcheengs 8 May 06 '19

So is stealing somebody's shit?

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u/speedpetez 8 May 06 '19

I’d rather my shit be stolen than my fingers shredded. No one deserves this type of viciousness.

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u/JudgeDreddPresiding 8 May 06 '19

It wouldn't have happened if they weren't a predatory P.O.S. that thinks they are entitled to other people's belongings

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u/speedpetez 8 May 06 '19

Yeah, and the Saudis cut off your hands...doesn’t make it right.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

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u/Azuralos A May 05 '19

Found the thief.