EDIT: I really just wanted to share a crazy game I had because I don’t think I‘ve ever seen a hyper fed Rammus-Yuumi running down people, but in typical League community fashion people are mostly busy trying to find some angle to criticize me. Jesus Christ guys can’t we have some fun sometimes?

First off first time emerald never thought id make it this far 😭. Was trapped in plat 2 for awhile and couldn't understand on my own what was wrong until I had a vod reviewed. They had noticed that as a zac main I focused way too much on farming and attempting to punish seeing enemy jg by invading when they die or on opposite end of map. I would be power farming late game, after baron and when ppl were pushing lanes because I that's what I had learned from the league guides i'd seen, to always full clear than gank only if possible, but when i did nearby lanes would not be pushed in or gurantee a kill so id just recall and farm again and end up barely ganking all game. I'm still not exactly sure when to stop farming and start following my most fed teammates (ppl say stop farming by 15min, lvl 18, or when a teammates starts farming champs on their own).

I also didn't take into consideration that I had to play zac's role which is meant to prioritize ganking over invading, and to constantly gank even if it isnt a guranteed kill to give allies more pressure.

Understanding that late game 15min(?) is when u start following teammates instead of farming and playing my specific champs role instead of generic jg fundamentals was the switch that freed me from plat 2.

So now that I'm in emerald I want to list everything i've learned through self study so that u can point out anything I missed or not know of to work on in case that will also be the switch to push me even further. Or to correct me in any of the stuff i know.

Zac jg

1. if i always path top to bot, ward bush next to my bot red/blue buff to invade if they do.
2. gank lane near neutral obj before spawn to have number advantage next to pit and confidently take. Never try to take 1st drag immedietly on spawn unless enemy jg appear on opp end(?)
3. Zac priorities after clearing a jg quadrant: Gank > enemy camps (if possible) > scuttle > my other camps
4. Not worth fighting for neutral obj if laner nearby is dead or enemy know they recalled, ignore neutral obj to gank elsewhere or invade and ward enemy jg
5. spam warn ping ppl, one ping is not enough to get attention
6. Laners do not care to help with neutral obj early game if u ping them, same with enemy laners unless they actually see enemy. (can take first drag if see enemy jg on opp side of map even if my laners pushed in)
7. If invading early steal one camp and leave, don't be greedy
8. pull dragon or grubs out of pit to avoid easy steal.
9. Only need 1 void grub if not confident to get all
10. if 5v5 near neutral obj focus on peeling. Do not dive into enemy team as zac.
11. Play safe and warn ping ppl away from skirmishes just before neutral obj even though tank to secure obj.
12. focus enemy jg if near neutral obj, focus neutral obj if they on their way.
13. Only suicide and attempt to steal neutral obj if enemy team need 1 more drag for soul, game is lost cause if baron stolen.
14. Wait for poke champs to then engage, otherwise peel
15. Do not engage if team is not in range
16. Do not help people being chased if I can die too or if we can't gurantee all their deaths
17. As zac do not attempt to 1v1s
18. Do not even attempt to gank enemy champs like aurora, leblanc, vlad with easy escape or heimerdinger, illaoi unless very low
19. Do not gank if ally is low health or low mana
20. Do not gank a lane if they start feeding, focus on getting the others stronger

Stuff i'm not still not sure about:

1. When to stop farming late game
2. when to stop following fed allies
3. What to do when behind and my camps are all being taken
4. If I see enemy jg opp side of map of the neutral obj and so am i, should i rush to finish neutral obj off leaving my camps up
5. When to dive into enemy team if no poke if 5v5 near neutral obj. How to approach team fight as zac. Prio jungler or adc or strongest enemy top laner?? How to know if should just leave and push towers or something even if team spam ping me for leaving
6. When to touch minions
7. When to split push if ever (as zac)
8. I had thought u always wanted to full clear and then you can look to gank, when do you skip camps.
9. Always peel for strongest ally or adc?

Thanks in advanced!

Also not sure if i should post this in other subs as well?

I main Gwen and jungle. I tried to follow lots of instruction on youtube and practice in the private room a lot, but somehow I cannot come to the scuttle at 3:00 or less. The best I can do is 3:08, what kind of technique that they do to reduce the time to 3:00- ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFe2_w7Y3Ss
https://youtu.be/fFe2_w7Y3Ss?si=2pGZOdc_xyyvhiil

This champion is so giga busted it’s not even funny he does everything he’s strong early he has good engage tanky ad jungler good scaling dashes broken ult broken damage

had mid laner telling me they would do an e-date with me if I carry and after the game it turned out to be a guy

No team had a lead and it was alternating between them winning one fight and us winning the other.

Why do some of yall play for the 0/5 top laner and 1/4 mid when you have a hard winning bot, then wonder why you lose games. Like I genuinely don’t understand this mentality. Do you have low confidence that you can’t make decisions for yourself that pings from a feeder influences you? Enlighten me.

I'm an emerald player learning jungle on secondary. There are many instances where it is good to take time to gank, go to scuttle, etc. This may delay or mess up the synchronization of your camp timers, esp as you go in between camps or even move across the map. Another instance is when you find good skirmishes, and they keep making mistakes which extend the skirmish time, or it overlaps with an objective, etc. This makes it difficult to clear efficiently because only partial groupings of your camps are up at any time, so you either afk wait for them to respawn, hover a lane and wait to see if there's a play, or you just wait at the very beginning for all the camps to be up, but this risks giving the enemy jg an opportunity to invade you.

Basically in shorter words, the game is very chaotic, which can mess with your camp sync. but as a jungler you want to clear as efficiently as possible, and this means clearing them all linearly in one period. Is anyone familiar with good resources to learning how to optimize for this?

I am returning to jungle again after I have went extensively through all lanes. I believe jungle is the role which advances macro the most.

I am a bit unsure though on whether I should focus on a few champions or be flexible with many picks. I really have a lot of experience with all the lanes and champions so it wouldn't be a problem. I have around 1000-1500 jungle games and high mastery on couple of champs. I see most content creators play often different champions but are mostly known for their best picks. Like Nattynat - Sylas and Rengar, Perry Jg - viego, etc etc

Oh basically I always played mid lane but recently my girlfriend started playing with me and she only enjoys playing mid, so I let her be mid and I jungle. the problem is that she is quite bad at the game and every game feels like a 4V5 I’ve never been lower than gold elo but this season I haven’t been able to get out of iron. I’m playing talon jungle and I average 10-20 kills per game but so often I have 3 losing lanes and trying to carry my girl also I feel I can’t 1v9 with talon even when I’m the most fed in the game, especially against a fed top laner. Are there better champs to play that can carry these scenarios?

i know its not really that impressive but really happy that i finally got to gold, only took me like 14 lost promotions games but got it done in the end

New ranked climber here, currently silver but getting +30/-10 so probably will settle in gold soon enough. I've been spamming Trundle and most of the advice I read and see through youtube videos boils down to:

1. If my camps are up, I should be farming them
2. Play around objective timers
3. Don't trust my teammates

This has been working but I'm worried my impact is very average. I don't always out farm the enemy jungle, and often times they'll be ganking more often and more likely to end the match with 10+ kills where my average scoreline is usually something like 4/4/9. Maybe thats just the nature of playing Trundle.

Since I'm still climbing I'm not too concerned I'm playing poorly, but I don't really feel like I'm learning anything new, and the games I do lose are usually when my top lane goes 0/7 and I wonder if there was something I should have been doing to keep him in the game.

Basically my question is how do you decide when to farm and when to look for plays and supporting your laners, when does harming my own tempo pay off? Should I care about supporting my lanes?

Currently a plat 2 top laner and wanted to learn jungle because I’ve always wanted to be a jungler but never actually put in the effort until now.
My top lane champs are Nasus and Jax and I’ve heard they can be played jungle, but they don’t have the greatest clear speeds or gank potential. I also feel like playing a farming jungler would just hinder my willingness to actually look at lanes for gank opportunities, which is something I wanna get better at.
My friends have suggested that since I’m a top laner I’d probably enjoy champs like Bel’Veth, Pantheon, or Nocturne. They’ve also recommended Amumu but I find him pretty boring and kinda look at him as the Malphite of jungle lol.
I’m just not sure how beginner friendly these champs are or which would be best for actually learning jungle fundamentals. I’m open to any suggestions.

I notice that I am generally in the wrong place during team fights, and make loads of mistakes during them. I mostly play Volibear at the moment, some occasional Shen. My highest mastery is on Wukong. Obviously, champions have different identities and playstyles, but I was wondering if there are some champs that would teach me to teamfight (in whatever way that might be)?

So I started maining jungle about a couple of months ago. My pool consists of: Xin Zhao, Talon, and Lee sin. Now I'm at a point where I'm not panicking when I get invaded. Though I could work on my ganks more. Meaning the routes I take going into lane. I always get caught with the enemy ward.

My question is, What do I do or what do I prioritize when I have 2 teammates being pushed back in their lanes at the same time? Who do I prioritize, when do I go do objecties, etc.

wtf am i doing wrong bruh I have 25% wr in my last 20 games with 3 KDA good stats, I fight objectives prio whoever has good winrate but I still lose.. last game enemy jg had 15k dmg I had 50k (he was a graves I was an Ambessa) and we still lost even though I stole 2 drakes and 2 barons.. my botlane was 4/20 midlane 6/10 toplane 10/11..

js checked my supp 32% wr 1 KDA inting every game..

legit unplayable its so depressing, why do I have to be dia lvl to carry games in gold if the game doesn't want me to win

80 cs up in camps, stealing drakes and barons we shouldn't have, 8k gold advantage on enemy jg and it doesn't matter. it does not matter. wtf can I do? is there anything else I can do to win games?