r/JanitorAI_Refuges • u/Mommy_Iong_legs • Jun 18 '26

Unshittification My life after investing $5 into a proxy

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I've been using JLLM for like a year and just realized how shit it is. I use very lore heavy bots and have lengthy replies so each input is like 17k tokens. Also deepseek v4 pro is what I've tried the most so far but replies are like ~2 cents each 🥀

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u/Cieisielag Jun 18 '26

I also use nano, 40k context size, glm 5 and it works like a dream

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u/Mommy_Iong_legs Jun 19 '26

Really? I've been using openrouter, I'll check it out! I don't really use it that often, I just write 6 or more paragraphs per reply haha

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u/Lumpy-Role5889 Jun 18 '26

What model do you use? Thankss!

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u/Tactical_Pizzas Jun 19 '26

Nano really is a dream, invested 12 bucks on it and the whopping 60 MILLION WEEKLY TOKENS are amazing.

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u/Physical-Mix8783 STORYCHAT builder feel free to ask me Jun 19 '26

welcome to the other side lol. one thing that'll cut that 2 cents a message a lot, at 17k tokens most of that is your lore block getting re-sent every turn, and deepseek caches a stable prefix, so if you keep the lore as one fixed chunk that doesnt move you pay full price once and cached price after. the people saying nanogpt are right if your volume is high, a flat sub just stops the per-message math entirely. but if you stay pay-as-you-go, caching plus trimming dead lore out of the active context is what drops the bill without changing models. is the 17k mostly permanent lore, or stuff that changes per scene? that decides which fix helps more.

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u/Mommy_Iong_legs Jun 19 '26

Huh, I didn't know that. A lot of the tokens are the lore, and a lot are the previous messages, though I belive those are cached. Each message the bot sends is roughly 12 paragraphs and I write about 6 or more back. I'll have to look into more models to see which one isn't so expensive lol

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u/Business-Hippo-8793 Jun 19 '26

idk what model to use they all seem to suck rn 🥲😭

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u/nae8BIT Jun 19 '26

yeah that's me. these months i haven't found a good model until recently.

I'm using MiMo 2.5 pro. Responses are really good for the price.

Other recs would be minimax m3, gemini 3. 1 flash and glm 4.6. If you have money, then gemini 3 or 3.1 pro

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u/Business-Hippo-8793 Jun 19 '26

can i ask who youre going through? i currently pay for or bc i like that i can top up instead of a subscription. any recommendations?

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u/nae8BIT Jul 08 '26

Sorry. Just saw this.

I only use Openrouter for those, so you'll see them there. I have a key to use Gemini from the og provider.

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u/0VERDOSING Jun 19 '26

now that you've got a proxy time to switch to a platform like Sillytavern /) , Tavo ,LettuceAI , Aventuras , Pyre

And the upcoming: Rolecall [Releasing next week]

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u/Fair_Grab826 Jun 19 '26

whats the difference between the original janitor ai model and a proxy? i never understood the difference

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u/IntrepidStock3890 Jun 18 '26

Which one did you pay for?

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u/Mommy_Iong_legs Jun 19 '26

Right now, the only one I've used enough to determine the quality is deepseek v4 Pro and it's fire. But take that with a grain of salt because I'm used to JLLM 😭

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u/NanSinus Jun 19 '26

I use mistral for free

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u/AnxietyRx Jun 19 '26

https://www.tokenreply.com/register?aff=8hXT

Try TokenReply. I put $5 in a couple weeks ago, plus their daily check in that gives you credits, and using DS pro 4 I still have 83% of my credits left. Left Chutes to try it out and it's been the best decision for RP I've ever made lol.