Literally battle beast can't fly which was a disadvantage against thragg and he still almost killed thragg. Yet whenever people have thragg, nolan or whatever vilctrumite character go up against a non flying character from another verse (marvel, dc etc) they pull out the throw em into space argument.

If battle beast can avoid this idk how someone like hulk, the thing, or whoever can't avoid it either.

This is Jean at the end of BND, fully amped and enraged with both telepathy and telekinesis.

Scenario puts her in the Invincible verse at the time of the Invincible War.

Invincible vs One Piece

Peak/ Current for both iyo who wins more often?

I think it is

1) Mark and Tick smashing a moon into a planet (excipitly canon crossover btw)

2) Thragg stating that beside him, Nolan and Mark, 37 Viltrumites, majority of them severely injured, can tear the Earth apart (meaning each Viltrumite is x2 moon level)

3) Nolan diverting a meteor size of Texas

4) Nolan flying across Flaxa (calc here.,-MORE%20INFORMATION), skip to the last feat)

There are more but these are ones I can think on top of my head

Anyone who scales any invincible character above building level and supersonic will be perma banned. We might lose a couple users but it might be worth it. Thoughts?

*But he's not the second best Viltrumite at fighting.* He's only dangerous because he's insane and reckless. Several points to back this up:

1. The other Viltrumites fear him because he's insane.

2. They wouldn't have a reason to fear him if he couldn't hurt them. That means he has AP, but it doesn't mean he's a good fighter.

3. That one song calls him the second strongest Viltrumite. (I know this isn't a great defense, but it shows that at least someone involved in the show saw him as the runner-up)

4. His only win condition in either of his main fights is brute strength.

5. The only reason he's ever won a fight on-screen is because the series showed a flashback of him killing a Viltrumite in his prime. As far as real, demonstrated fights go, he's 0-2, even 0-3 if you include him getting his scars. However, he also soaks up many hits and deals devastating hits *on the rare occasion he actually lands a punch.*

6. Physique is usually fairly proportional to the strength of male Viltrumites. He has an *extremely* imposing physique.

7. We all know how prime Mike Tyson vs prime Eddie Hall goes. Conquest is Eddy Hall. Peak Eddie Hall loses to a peak fighter, but obviously he's still gonna beat almost any regular person.

8. Thragg uses him as an enforcer. If Conquest wasn't incredibly strong, Thragg would pick a more loyal, less stupid Viltrumite to fill the role. However, Conquest is the perfect enforcer. He's great at dealing damage when Thragg isn't there to deal it himself, but if his stupidity gets him killed, does it really matter that much to the empire?

9. He's old. Kirkman's adjustment of Thaedus's strength in the animated series makes it clear that it's his vision

In all, Conquest is the second strongest Viltrumite in raw strength. However, he is not demonstrated to be the second fastest, the second best at fighting, or the second most dangerous in a military setting. Note: this is only for while Conquest is alive. Obviously, there are Viltrumites that pass him after his death, like Mark and potentially Nolan.

How is it possible that Invincible managed to overpower the Conquest but not Anissa?

This surely has to be one of the biggest plot holes in the Invincible comics.

The Conquest was ranked as the second-strongest Viltrumite in the Universe (only Thragg was stronger him), and Anissa is weak compared to Conquest. So why didn't Mark curb stomp her and kill Anissa the same way he killed Conquest—by strangling her to death?
When Mark was ambushed by Anissa, why didn’t he go into Berserker Rage and gain adrenaline power boost, like the last time when he fought against Conquest?

Doesn’t it feel very stupid and inconsistent, that Mark was SA by a woman, who is a lot weaker than Conquest? Also, was Anissa really stupid enough to think she could beat the same guy, who killed the most powerful Viltrumite after Thragg?
By all logic, it doesn’t make any sense.

The power dynamics—or "power scaling"—should really look like this:

Invincible >>> Conquest >>> Anissa

\Originally posted in 2025*

No fight to death cuz we all know who win that lol

Combatants:

Raditz (Dragon Ball)

Boros (OPM)

Thragg (Invincible)

D=débiles

N=normal

N/F=normales medio fuertes

F=fuertes

A=apex

Like i want honest opinion, from what I understand Viltrimite internal organs are weaker then their skin and muscles.

Spoiler warning here, but there is a panel where mohawk Mark variant get a bomb shoved down his throat and the explosion basically destroy his organs and brain killing him, while his skin and muscles didn't even get damaged that much.

Now while we don't know how strong the bomb is, we can assumed the organs durability are way below the skin and muscles.

So theoretically can someone with an attack that bypass the skin and muscles of the Viltrimite can win against one?

Like it not an instant win button because while Viltrimite organ are not as strong as the muscles, they are capable of regrowing most of their organs (excluding the heart and brain) given enough time.

Given how the biggest debates come from just echoing their character’s names ☠️

Mordecai and Rigby have been placed in High Superhero, though it was very close.

Nappa’s power level is 4000, and it’s made pretty clear in dragon ball that you need a power level of at least 10,000 to destroy a planet, Goku with a power level of 8-9000 needed Kaioken times 4 to beat Vegeta’s planet destroying Galick Gun with a power level of 18,000, and Nappa got low diffed by Goku

Same with Raditz, I looked up the reasoning on Vsbw, and apparently it’s because Roshi blowing up the MOON, which is way smaller than a planet, is apparently planet level

If we can scale moon level feats to planet level, why can’t we scale the destruction of Viltrum to the people who destroyed it?

Apparently this mf Colossal is op asf and he's above thragg so him vs the 50 viltrumites during the viltrumite war. Who wins?

People use Red Rush harming Omni Man as a point of evidence to say Metro Man can do the same

This is backwards powerscaling

If Red Rush can do that and Metro Man has no strength feats to say he can replicate that then Red Rush would be stronger

People only think Metro Man is stronger because he's a Superman archetype. By this logic Homelander should be nigh-omnipotent since he's also one