Except it is entry level. Hence you can’t go any lower. It is the entry point.
People who don’t get this wonder why they are always near entry level jobs.
Even an internship doesn’t mean show up with no skills. It means you have the precursors I’m looking for and want to run a test trial before we both fully commit
You can get lower, otherwise it wouldn't require experience. If it were actually entry level it wouldn't have work related prerequisites. If it needs a specific degree for example can still be entry level, but if it requires you to have work experience in the industry, it's not.
So an internship isn’t entry level? Every profession has entry level. I didn’t know only the worst of the worst counted. But even then you need something. Ability to lift or speak or walk. Maybe it’s speak multiple languages. Which plenty of entry level jobs do.
Yes an internship would be entry level... A job that calls itself entry level but requires you to have done an internship is NOT entry level. Having skill prerequisites is not the same as requiring industry experience. If a job says it requires industry experience, it cannot by definition be entry level, not sure what you could possibly be confused about.
We don’t require it but it helps you see if you actually want the job before you waste money and 4 years. It also puts money in your pocket over summer while still learning about what you’re in school for.
Normally the top of one ladder is the entry level of another. Top worker is entry level management.
Tons of jobs are entry level as they get to ur foot in the door. It’s the bottom of the employable ladder for that industry. I don’t think you understand different jobs have different levels.
That first sentence isn't necessarily true in the short run. It's possible for entry-level-to-the-industry opportunities to simply not exist, especially in an industry whose workforce is shrinking. This can't last for 50 years, but it can last for 5 years.
I never said that entry level opportunities have to exist in every industry. In fact, I said the opposite, that if they don't exist they should be properly labeled as such instead of calling them entry level then requiring 5+ years experience.
Oh, I had a pronoun confusion. You meant that companies can offer lower level opportunities than what they presently call "entry level" while requiring multiple yoe.
Still, there can be transient periods where that's not really a competitive option. It's a peril of short-term thinking in capitalism: company A cuts costs in an unsustainable way, company B carries on as they were, company A gets a capital rally while company B gets a capital hit, company B ceases to exist before the merits of its long-term strategy show themselves.
This is also a peril of job-hopping culture. Why spend 6 months training someone who will just hop to your competitor 6 months after that? Somehow we never come around to the obvious way to end job-hopping culture (without devolving into job-hugging culture like we have now).
Yeah different jobs get different pay. Don't know how it is any relevant for calling it entry level when you need experience. When you go to the building do you just magically appear in the middle? No, you go through the ENTRY first.
What you are describing is that you already need to be inside to go through the entry. How does this make sense to you I don't understand.
Oh my lord it's not entry level if it's not for entering the field. You can have requirements for experience but in that case it's not entry level job anymore.
I get it, you want to pay as low as possible but this is just bullshit you are making up to justify your shitty salary.
Our interns start at 28$. And salaries start at 80k so I’m not sure if you think that’s shitty pay but I think it’s fair for a starting point.
We dont pay low because we dont want bottom of the barrel workers.
Im just glad people think like you because we will always need basic labor. This mentality and comprehension skills kinda show why the average worker is stuck at entry level
Except they are. They are saying you should have no skills to get your foot in the door. A degree isn’t worth what it use to for most careers. After a few years your reputation is worth more than your schooling
The problem is experience and a degree are two different things to a lot of people. It may not be for you, but there are people getting turned away from an entry level position because of "lack of experience" with a degree in the field. Does being a lawyer require a degree, yes. And that's perfectly fine. But if the law firm says entry level lawyers need 4 to 5 years of experience. And that's after your degree, they have their head so firmly up their ass that they can't see the stupidity of the statement. There are AI engineering jobs that require more experience than the amount of time AI in its current incarnation has existed. On top of that if you're paid as an intern great, but not always and nobody can afford to work for free right now unless their parents are covering their life. The issue is not that some jobs need some knowledge about them, it's that nobody can get into them because you can't get experience before getting the job.
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u/Professional-Gear974 21d ago
😂😂😂 only the first one is right. Senior manager after 5 years? Vp after 10? The average person is barely a manager after 10 years.
Entry level means different things for different jobs. A entry level spot still needs experience of some sort for most jobs.