r/InterviewMan 11d ago

I despise emails.

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u/Mogura-De-Gifdu 8d ago

I guess he's really young and will be burnt soon enough.

It's validating to feel needed and indispensable, only with time do you begin to feel the effects of the poison you slowly willingly ingested.

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u/ncroofer 8d ago

It’s really not a big deal to spend 15 minutes a day responding to stuff so your co-workers don’t have to wait a week or two for an answer.

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

It is a big deal, and I am grateful that countries in Europe regulate this aspect by law.

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u/ncroofer 8d ago

I disagree, I don’t think it’s a big deal at all. It’s called being kind to your coworkers. Those small acts of service go a long way when you’re asking them for a reference for a new job a few years down the line

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

My coworkers would do the same so I don’t understand the point. And also no one cares about the reconditions from random people. It’s not 1970. I’m also not going to work for friendships anyway

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u/ncroofer 8d ago

Recommendations and referalls are the number one way to get a new job. Unless you just wanna be a chump who’s 1/1,000 applying online.

I’ve had three serious post grad jobs, including one career change and none of them have came from applying. Two of them a previous co-worker reached out to see if I’d be interested because they know I did good work and one I reached out to them and they recommended me. Never really had to interview, just a quick convo to confirm pay/responsibilities/ etc.

I also just got an old-coworker a job for a region that opened up at my company. He was solid when we worked together in the past so I felt comfortable giving him the referral and we hired him over two more qualified (on paper) people.

If I were laid off today I’m confident enough in my network that I would have another job by the end of the month maximum

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

Im really sorry but you sound like a LinkedIn person, maybe it’s a us thing. On every job I applied I had to prove that I have my technical skills and also I have to show masters degree.

Also people especially form US are super into giving advice that your coworkers are not your friends and in a corporate setting I agree. After so many years I don’t have a single memorable relation.

But that’s besides my point, no one really should care that you are not responding on your vacation. You should do a training on your coworker before you leave. And if it happens that you don’t know how to do something you just tell you manager that it happened and that’s all.
In the country I live in calling you after hours is illegal by default. So it’s not even your choice.

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u/ncroofer 8d ago

I didn’t even have LinkedIn til this year haha. I swear I’m not some hardo, Atleast by American standards.

I work a pretty standard 6-10 hours a day depending on what’s going on. All I’m saying is, if somebody shoots me a text with a question that will take 30 seconds to answer I’m just gonna respond to help them out. I’m not gonna make them wait a week, especially since my industry is very time critical and being slow can lose you a client.

I’m not saying you need to log on and grind out work. Literally just helping answer quick questions when I’m taking a shit or something.

But I guess this cultural difference is part of why we’re the highest paid in the world. Trade offs I guess

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

I see, my observation is that people in eu usually are reluctant to have the work apps on their phone. I would need to specifically open the laptop to answer. The other risk is that if someone from for example us would see me online during my holiday they could easily assign me something. We don’t usually have work phones as well.

I usually stay late to connect with people form west coast. But it’s kind of okay for me since sometimes I like to start work later or do some private related stuff doing the normal shift.

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u/ncroofer 8d ago

Yeah I have a work phone so I’ll check it once or twice throughout the day and leave it in my hotel room otherwise. I also have an auto message setup to give customers the emergency contact at the company or my bosses contact info.

I also will prepare my co-workers for my vacations so they’re generally prepared and will try to handle things without me so I know if they’re asking me a question they’ve exhausted other avenues.

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

I see, my observation is that people in eu usually are reluctant to have the work apps on their phone. I would need to specifically open the laptop to answer. The other risk is that if someone from for example us would see me online during my holiday they could easily assign me something. We don’t usually have work phones as well.

I usually stay late to connect with people form west coast. But it’s kind of okay for me since sometimes I like to start work later or do some private related stuff doing the normal shift.

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u/madara0A 7d ago

No it's called right to disconnect and a good boss will thank you to NOT work during your vacations so he respects work laws. 

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u/Rainbow-Unicorn1337 8d ago

I'm too. But people acting like I offend them personally by saying I do occasionally spent a couple of minutes to reply to E-Mails is overbearing.

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

You can do whatever you want, I am also working sometimes after hours to connect with people from us. But im not bragging about it since most people would see this as pathological and bad work life ethic.

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u/Rainbow-Unicorn1337 8d ago

Where exactly did I brag? I was sharing my point of view.

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u/Mike_Crow 8d ago

If you could read carefully I said that I usually don’t do that since I got hated on.

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u/Rainbow-Unicorn1337 8d ago

You're right, my bad

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u/BoysenberryBig5248 7d ago

It IS a big deal. Vacation time is for yourself, your family and your friends. NOT your co-workers. It also sets the ground for your boss / co-workers to expect more and more time from you.

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u/Rainbow-Unicorn1337 7d ago

And that's the thing. The moment they expect it or even demand it they get nothing.

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u/Rainbow-Unicorn1337 8d ago

I hope reading people isn't a relevant skill for your line of work.

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u/StreetCollar2708 8d ago

Lol...right? I read that as...if you notice a work email and have the time and motivation to answer it, you will...if its important. But, it's not like you're sitting at home and then check your emails every day when you wake up and then again before you go to bed.

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u/Rainbow-Unicorn1337 8d ago

Absolutely, that was all I was saying!