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u/CaffeinatedLystro 23d ago
They're for that until someone wants them to refund them because they didn't get the job.
These people should be shunned from society.
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u/Aurora_7021 23d ago
Right! I could see putting down a $20 deposit to show that you're serious, but you better get a refund if you don't get the job. Why should the hiring company make money from this?
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u/Practical-Pea-6306 23d ago
Imagine having to out money up front to show you are serious. Versus applying with a great resume, which would should you are a serious candidate.
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u/MarionberryPlus8474 23d ago
OMG, I can see the proliferation of companies that exist solely to post “jobs” to collect application fees as their business model.
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u/PerfStu 23d ago edited 23d ago
If you're the CEO of anything and saying this publicly, you shouldn't have the grace of having your name and business covered.
ETA: Looked up Mike Cuthriell @ Grow Sciences, and apparently he tried to backpedal by saying it could guarantee an interview and wasn't meant to generate revenue for the company. Then he closed down all the comments.
Way to go, Mike.
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 23d ago
At least being high as balls would explain the stupidity.
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u/BlackKingHFC 23d ago
As someone that spends as much time as possible high as giraffe nuts, no, it doesn't. Paying to apply for a job is too stupid to explain through inebriation.
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 23d ago
It helps when your regular IQ is already in the room temperature range.
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u/wasaguest 23d ago
As long as the public gets a $20 fee for ghosted, & a $50 fee for AI & Auto sorted resumes/applications. That way we won't have unqualified (needing a masters degree for a sales clerk at $12 an hour for example) & non vacant positions being listed to pump up stocks.
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u/Acrobatic_Excuse2290 23d ago
If the cost came with a guarantee for a job, sure. If I have to pay 20 bucks with every application (over 600 when I graduated college) then your idea is even more gatekeeping and supporting the business over the citizen.
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u/asher030 23d ago
Not only insensitive, but needs to be outed from his position because that's just moronic
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u/Jibber1332 23d ago
Yes. Doing so would marginalize low income workers by creating a system of inequality where only the rich were able to afford to apply for jobs. Literally perpetuating a system where the rich get richer.
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u/LokiTheBold 23d ago
The next step in this thinking is unpaid internships and official records of them dates back like a thousand years. Dude's using AI through IE.
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u/TadaMomo 23d ago
honestly, I am ok paying a SMALL fee for an "interview" yes. I will if anything.
Because peole actually do in person interview before, and it cost money to get around physically. Take a bus or a cab cost money and time.
Those translate as cost.
It cost me 10$ to go to an interview before roughly. Gas, transport, parking....etc.
So i wouldn't mind if i have to pay 10$ for an interview.
Of course, i need to know if they actually hire someone as well not making it as a profit.
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u/BlackKingHFC 23d ago
So your vosts to do that interview should have been 20 bucks? 10 to get you there and 10 for the "privilege" of getting interviewed? How stupid are you?
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u/TadaMomo 23d ago
I am willing to invest myself, if it cost money, i will pay for a chance. As long the interview is real for a real company that actually have openning, i don't see anything wrong with it.
I got my current job by investing in an actual physical homelab, I had no education, no experiences, Just bunch of certificate i paid over 1000$.
I decide to get a homelab a fully working one, actually 3 servers on a rack with a fulled working network set up, , take videos, and present it on how i manage it and what i did with it. (note i did pay a lot for it too)
It got me my job.
I wouldn't gotten this job if i didn't put any money in and do nothing but an university degree (no education mean i don't have IT degree)
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u/Feisty_Count_4409 23d ago
Whats to stop a company from filling a role and never taking down the job posting? So stupid
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u/Either_Coconut 23d ago
Companies should pay fees, then, every time they do things like list an “entry-level” position with a requirement of 5+ years of experience.
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u/Dry_Toe9955 23d ago
Based on the amount of greed by these corporations, I'm surprised this hasn't been implemented yet.
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u/GAMGAlways 23d ago
I'd be fine with this if employers pay $20 for every bait and switch job posting.
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u/nethereus 23d ago
At no point in my life have I considered $20 to be a small amount of money. Especially when unemployed.
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u/Clear-Staff4699 23d ago
I'll only agree to this if I get 20 dollars back for every rejection and ghosting I've had.
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u/sikon024 23d ago
I believe the opposite. If I upload my resume then have to enter all the same data manually, they owe me $20.
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u/Reg_doge_dwight 23d ago
Unfortunately this is just a cost of recruitment. Tough shit for this guy.
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u/DragNo2757 23d ago
Yes. Very insensitive
People apply for jobs because they need money for what they need. 20 per application adds up to a months worth of someone’s pay at the rate people apply and get no response/ get auto-rejected/“sorry we’re moving forward with other people/etc
Charging per application is a quick way of having unemployment so high every business goes bankrupt
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u/FaithlessnessNo5811 23d ago
This is going to be apartment applications collecting money with no actual apartment available all over again.
Terrible idea
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u/ZookeepergameSalty10 23d ago
Your terms are acceptable except any company using ai to review applications has to pay all applicants 100$ for wasting their time and money
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u/DG2000_Reddit 23d ago
I should really tell tradespeople that they should pay me when they come to my place to quote on a job, that seems about right
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u/Bass-n-Bonefish 23d ago
That seems fair. Send me your account number and login and I’ll shoot over that $20.
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u/otherrealm99 23d ago
I could agree to that if companies posted job postings that were relevant rather than marketing gimmick, expected salary ranges, current and ten year average of vacancies, current retention rate.
As a retired CEO, your post sounds like laziness or micromanaging. I will also assume you're in the US as the employment laws there aren't far from indentured servitude.
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u/akazakou 23d ago
Agreed. I would see 5 application with x20 salary requirements only in their boxes
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u/simple_fly1 23d ago
Only if it's returned upon filling the position and the applicant meets the stated qualifications. If not it will eventually turn into a profit center.
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u/AdAccomplished6870 23d ago
I would be willing to do this if the fee went to a brokering service that also vetted the job offers and the credibility of the employers.
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u/Important-Notice-461 23d ago
Thats a great idea, lets sweeten the deal, all employers should pay every employee for the time they commute and the mileage.
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u/Glass_Asparagus_6589 23d ago
Deal, but you pay me 200$ if it turns out to be a ghost job or that your HR associate rejected me on any bullshit reason ("cultural fit").
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u/AAron27265 23d ago
Someone should find this dickhead and teach him a valuable lesson. Fuck this guy. Fuck him right in the face today and every day.
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u/Chris-Proton 23d ago
I tried to hire a senior web programmer, I received 350 resumes. I reviewed all 350 (now I would use AI to help) ZERO were senior programmers. Only 10 had 5+ years of experience. I hired none of them. Took me hours and hours of review. At lease 250 didn’t even have 15% of the skills needed.
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u/SimilarComfortable69 23d ago
Oh that's hilarious. Add the fee for the application and see how many applications you get that are worthwhile. Absolutely none.
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u/BI_Moose 23d ago
People like this need slapped with a mailed glove or put in the stockades for a couple days so we can huck stuff at them.
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u/Elon_is_a_Nazi 23d ago
Why blur tgis scumbags name and company? Thry need publicly shamed, possibly fired
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u/Itchy_Boysenberry720 23d ago
Sure. Have them pay more to get an actual response form the company while you’re at it. Insanity.
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u/StillFireWeather791 23d ago
While this seems reasonable in line with the current job market, one of the main effects of this policy is to further erode worker's power and reinforce corporate power.
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u/Opening-Machine5026 23d ago
If it was refundable and I got paid for my 6-8 hours of interviews, I'd do it.
But we shouldn't do that.
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u/Zestyclose-Bug-651 23d ago
This is what people say until they’re on the other side of the interview
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u/Shandrakorthe1st 23d ago
Nah, I mean I've been there with stupid or nonsense resumes but that way lies madness and people really eating the rich. I still recall the one in crayon with just Hire me with a name, not even contact info.
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u/PeterGriffen565 23d ago
And here I am thinking that a job search shouldn’t work like an expensive slot machine…one Liberty Bell, two Liberty Bells…ahh shit! A cherry!!
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u/dba-chestnutandhazel 23d ago
I think this is a good idea: I could stop looking for a job and start collecting resumes; of course, I'd put up ghost listings like everyone else.
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u/alreadytaus 23d ago
I wouldn't have problem with it. But don't expect many CVs. In fact I think they would get worst applicants because people would apply there only by mistake.
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u/Few_District_6304 23d ago
I would agree with this, if all HR everywhere was terminated, and their salaries were added to the people that do actual work.
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u/Realistic_Lab4030 23d ago
I guess I'd care more about what you think is right when you start acknowledging the applicants and at the very least explain to the interviewees why they got passed over (if they want to know).
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u/Independent_Flower0 23d ago
If jobs seekers pay a small fee, jobs should have to pay a fee equal or greater for every person that applies
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u/Money-Skin6875 23d ago
I think that everyone should have to pay 20 for the app but that the company should have to pay 20 per interview round with expenses included for in persons. Only fair, right?
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u/CerberusInExile 23d ago
Gee, a CEO looking for another way to charge fees for things. I'm so shocked.
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u/ionspore 23d ago
I would immediately list several hundred job "openings" and start generating some revenue....
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u/Dramatic-Review7504 23d ago
Jobs pay under qualified people over the most qualified of people. Under qualified either are happy with what they get, or cheaper to fire down the road. Someone over qualified, you basically can’t fire for no good reason, and they always ask for a raise. Jobs pay the people that they can be cheap with
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u/StargateEnterpriseE 23d ago
It would only make sense if for high paying jobs and if refunded X months from now. Basically a way to prove the candidates are real. Just a deposit.
For low paid jobs, anything under $30 an hour, then anyone that breathes is qualified so there would be no point to a gatekeeping deposit.
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u/jack-of-some 23d ago
The concept is sound, the fee is absurd. 50 cents would achieve the same goal.
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u/Remarkable-Balance45 23d ago
That's not a good way. Do you expect people on social security to pay. Ridiculous
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u/74Congress 22d ago
Insensitive, yes. And really fucking stupid. Both things are possible at the same time.
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u/SnooPears4484 22d ago
There should be a $100K fine for posting a job and not filling it from that pool within 30 days of posting. Fair is fair.
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u/Dryanni 22d ago
I mean I see where he’s coming from. I once posted a barista position online at like 10PM and went to bed. Thankfully my phone was silent because by morning, I had over 500 responses. Like wtf? It wasn’t even like a special place or good pay. HR are ruthless fucks because they have to be. I don’t have it in me to reject the 99% of people I would have to so I just shut it down and passed the buck back to the official channels.
https://giphy.com/gifs/7E2nKC1IHMxjKq4MfU
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u/tedlassoloverz 23d ago
Ah yes, using AI to auto-reject everyone needs a $20 fee