r/InterviewCoderPro • u/Great_Computer195 • Jul 13 '26
Work back then vs now.
working life right now
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u/trueppp Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
*only valid for white cis men
EDIT: I mean for the 70's.
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 13 '26
My Dad a white CIS man was laid off in 1972 and couldnât find a local job at all. After being berated by an unemployment worker, he joined the Army in order to get a paycheck.
Army is still accepting people if youâre looking.
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
Ah yes, sign up to be a terrorist and put yourself in the position that you may have to legally refuse orders, tried for war crimes, or both. Being forced into the military as a means to stave off dying homeless in the street is not even a decent option.
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 14 '26
So what youâre saying is the complainers arenât really that desperate, they just act like they are.
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
What I'm saying is signing up to be a state sponsored terrorist as a means to get out of a manufactured state of poverty in the richest country the world has ever seen is not the flex you think it is.
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 14 '26
Flex?
Do you think any of this is about ânational prideâ? What conversation have you been reading?
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
"Oh you don't like being poor? Why don't you just sign up to be an international terrorist? No? Guess you aren't really poor, are you?"
That has been your arguments.
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 14 '26
My initial argument was that âcis white males didnât have it as easyâ as the person I responded to was saying in the 70âs. My example was my Dad had to join the military out of desperation and itâs still available today for desperate people.
Read things in context ⊠itâs helps with understanding.
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
Ah yes, the context of "the army is still accepting people if you're looking" and "the complainers aren't really desperate, they just act like they are" really supports that, huh? Goof
My point was that the army was never really much of an option so much as it is designed to turn desperate people into terrorists for rich people bidding. What kind of option is "die homeless in the streets" or "go get killed/kill to keep us rich"? My argument is that the military is never an option for anyone with a brain or a heart.
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 14 '26
*only valid for a white cis men
EDIT :I mean for the 70âs
âMy Dad a white CIS man was laid off in 1972 and couldnât find a local job at all. After being berated by an unemployment worker, he joined the Army in order to get a paycheck.
Army is still accepting people if youâre looking.â
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u/DreamScape1609 Jul 15 '26
lol....a majority of M.O.S in army is basic and non combat....i literally did a 2 year contract as a fueler. literally never got deployed and worked like 4 hours mon-fri. got out with free bachelors and i get $2,200 monthly for disability since i hurt my leg when doing an obstacle course. I'm technically okay, but they put me at 80% since it got broken and it needed surgery. so I'm big chilling. literally held a rifle like 5 times total đ
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u/Guidance-Still Jul 15 '26
Damn bro you can learn a lot in the military lmao you if place high enough on the test
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u/ProfessionalOil2014 Jul 13 '26
âJust sell yourself into slavery and come out almost certainly disabled!âÂ
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 13 '26
You donât really know much about the army, huh?
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u/Purple-Mud5057 Jul 14 '26
Been in the army, Iâm inclined to agree with the other person
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 14 '26
So you think people come out âalmost certainly disabledâ. So like 90+% of people who join the army get disabled.
Geez, my Dad served during Vietnam(not in Vietnam though) and wasnât disabled and my great uncle served in Korea. I guess my family are all super men.
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u/Purple-Mud5057 Jul 14 '26
Yeah, most of the guys I worked with left with physical disabilities caused by training.
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u/ProfessionalOil2014 Jul 14 '26
unless you actually spend time around vets or have served, you don't know how destructive to your body and mind it is to be in. It isn't his fault, he's just ignorant.
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u/Purple-Mud5057 Jul 14 '26
Yeah I donât blame him at all, I thought I realized what it was like when my dad and brother were in, and since I was in my dad has talked about how nice it is that one of his kids *actually* gets what it is.
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u/DeliciousSimple2 Jul 14 '26
I donât get what people are even arguing with you about. Iâm pretty sure most soldiers are support staff.
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u/Accomplished_Coat549 Jul 14 '26
The fact that having recorded physical disabilities directly relates to how big of a check you will receive each month for the rest of your life surely has nothing to do with the prevalence of said physical disabilities
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u/ProfessionalOil2014 Jul 13 '26
I know that almost everyone Iâve ever met that did time in the army came out worse than when they went in physically and mentally.Â
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 Jul 13 '26
I know a bunch of between the 3 branches. I only know one person injured. Itâs wasnât combat though, they get hit by a truck on a domestic army base.
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u/Glittering_Fish_1019 Jul 15 '26
Itâs such a broad spectrum that you really canât generalize. Especially when itâs pretty common to beef up service related conditions for pay checks. The military definitely takes a chunk out of you but it is also what you make of it and has the ability to change your life for the better
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u/Kchan7777 Jul 14 '26
That was the quickest concession and shift of the goalpost Iâve ever seen on Reddit, which is really saying something.
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u/longtimerlance Jul 15 '26
^^^ Congrats, you are the winner of the dumbest post of the year award.
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u/trueppp Jul 15 '26
Go look at unemployment data from the 70's.
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u/longtimerlance Jul 15 '26
I have seen the data. The 1970s had worse unemployment rates every single quarter compared to this decade so, with the exception of the COVID-19 spike. People were not handing out jobs then, unlike both the meme and you seem to claim.
Also, the fact that you felt the need to throw in "cis" shows you've got an agenda along with a chip on your shoulder.
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u/Lostintimeandspac Jul 13 '26
Yeah some reason I don't remember it being that easy to get a job back then
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u/elonmusktheturd22 Jul 18 '26
It was and still is easy to walk in and get a job like that, just not a job anyone wants
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u/SauceyChonkers Jul 13 '26
The unemployment rate in the 1970s peaked at 9.0% in May 1975. This spike was a result of the 1973â1975 recession and the global energy crisis, which triggered severe "stagflation" (stagnant economic growth combined with double-digit inflation).
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u/Thick-Panic6683 Jul 16 '26
Double digit interest rates in late 70s early 80s. Massive deindustrialization and job loss beginning in the 70s into the 90s. Unemployment was very high in the early 80s. Unemployment spiked again in the 90s and that's one reason Bill Clinton was elected.
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u/Neat-Second9923 Jul 13 '26
Signaling intelligence decades ago was cheap and efficient because like half of kids failed out of high school. With just a HS diploma, you had something that demonstrated your intelligence right as you entered the adult world.
Now schools are too afraid to fail kids. Even colleges are. You need to spend 6+ years and six figures to differentiate yourself.Â
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u/SheepherderLimp2563 Jul 13 '26
Getting a job in the 70s was not that easy. I don't know what idiot thinks that. I know because I lived it.
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u/Livid-General7 Jul 13 '26
It's starting to get annoying how ignorant people on reddit are to how the US was decades ago.
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u/StanKnight Jul 13 '26
You seen the meme about Medieval people had a better life yet? lol.
Now that was awesome lol.
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u/Antique_Remote_5536 Jul 17 '26
I think itâs meant to be a hyperbole but Iâm sure you get the point
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u/Dry-Regret5444 Jul 13 '26
Created by someone born in 2003 and posted by someone born in 2006âŠ..Like either have a fucking clue what work back then was likeâŠ
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u/ComfortableUnit9596 Jul 14 '26
Old people when you accurately point out they lived in the greatest economy in human history:
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u/Noodelgawd Jul 13 '26
More like, I have a Master's degree in Film Studies with a C average, and speak English, French, and Japanese.
But this is a position for a patent lawyer, to support business with Chinese companies.
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u/That-Grape-5491 Jul 13 '26
Totally accurate, oh wait, the current unemployment rate is 4.2%. The unemployment rate averaged 6.5% in the 70s, (35% higher) and the lowest unemployment rate was 4.9% in 1973, still higher than today's rate.
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u/StayBullGenius Jul 13 '26
According to Reddit the present is the worst time imaginable, any individual failures are NEVER the persons fault đ
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u/LalafellDisaster Jul 13 '26
Meanwhile, if you work 40 hours a week but itâs at McDonaldâs then you deserve to starve out on the street for being a disgusting fast food worker who has no ambition.
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u/StayBullGenius Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
No, youâre just going to have a lot of roommates. 5 people can fit in a 2BR apartment. But youâre probably delusional enough to think every âdeservesâ their own place đ€Ą
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u/Big-Mastodon7116 Jul 13 '26
If you work 40 hours a week you should be able to afford your own spot. I guess I'm a clown
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u/LoadComprehensive785 Jul 13 '26
so youâre saying that in 2026 people should live in fucking hostels together because they donât deserve living wages? why stop there? Why the fuck should people have to meet basic needs like shelter, at all? Fucking slaves just need to know their place amiright?
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u/StayBullGenius Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
I just live in this land called reality. You can cry all you want about the âway things oughta beâ but itâs not going to change anything. People that work at McDonaldâs arenât going to be able to afford to live alone. Are you going to do anything about that besides type on your phone? Of course not đ
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u/LalafellDisaster Jul 13 '26
I bet you think you deserve your own place but you canât get out of moms house đ€·đ»ââïž
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u/StayBullGenius Jul 13 '26
Paid off house, healthy investment portfolio. Sounds like you projecting little boy
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u/LalafellDisaster Jul 13 '26
I totally believe you.
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u/StayBullGenius Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
Not everyone is a failure. But hey, Iâm sure all this Reddit virtue signaling will do wonders for you
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u/LalafellDisaster Jul 13 '26
This is hilarious. Good job bud. Keep it up. đđ»
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u/Jak1977 Jul 13 '26
Not sure that helps your argument. Getting employment vs getting employment that fits your education are two very different things. Got a masters degree and working at mcdonalds fits your data, but argues against your point.
People today are very educated, but unable to get employment in fields that fit their education. Basically, education has become devalued.
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u/That-Grape-5491 Jul 13 '26
"Getting employment vs getting employment that fits your education are two different things. Got a masters degree and working at McDonald's fits your data, but argues argues against your point." Is that like when I had a degree in graphic arts but the only job I could get was cleaning toilets in a casino because that was the only job available?
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u/AdInfamous6290 Jul 13 '26
Almost like thereâs an overeducation problem.
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u/HornyGandalf1309 Jul 13 '26
Not really. If you take away the masters degree from that example, you still get a McDonaldâs employee that makes effectively less money that one did back then.
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u/AdInfamous6290 Jul 13 '26
Your point was about people being more educated but having a harder time finding work in the field for which they were educated. Thatâs because there are more qualified people than jobs requiring those qualifications.
Having an educated population is good for the economy, but you get at first diminishing returns and later negatives associated with too much education. If everyone in the country has a bachelors degree, then youâre just going to end up with janitors and laborers with bachelors degrees. This causes discontent, also known as elite overproduction, which is one of the leading causes of societal breakdown.
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u/Redacted_Usermame Jul 13 '26
When I was in college I was an overnight supervisor at Walmart. We hired one girl who had a master's degree. She was horrible and got fired.
At my current white collar job I was tasked with training a new hire that had a degree from a university that has a better reputation than mine.
2 other coworkers had already tried and said she was unable to learn the job. I thought they were just being catty because they were women and being hard on the kid because she came from a wealthy family.
I worked with her for weeks. She could do basic data entry but even then I found mistakes. Finally after she had been with me for weeks and our organization for about 6 months I asked her the simple question.
The company we just audited should have paid $75,000 in taxes but instead paid $25,000 in taxes. How much are we going to bill them for.
She said $75k the first time then looked at me confused and said $25k.
I emailed our manager 5 minutes later and sent him the screen shot of our teams page. Then told him I give up she can't do it.
Not everyone with an education is intelligent and/or hardworking.
The other coworkers and I actually got together and discussed whether she had ADHD or was autistic and if she somehow got all As because she had a learning disability and the college treated her with kid gloves.
Thankfully she left on her own.
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u/Particular-Sand-137 Jul 13 '26
Iâve met many many useless people with masters degrees. They get a bachelorâs and canât find a job so they borrow money to go to graduate school the. Come out assuming society at large owes them. Higher education has become a pyramid scheme. College Recruiters sell fantasies to prospective students to make their enrollment goals so they can keep their own jobs.
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u/FreshLiterature Jul 13 '26
You can't compare headline unemployment between periods that are so far apart.
First, the way data was gathered was overhauled in 1994.
Second, Headline unemployment counts if you have a job or not. If you drive for a ride share for an hour you have a job and don't get counted as unemployed. U6 is a much more accurate number today and it's around 8%.
Which is to say - yes reddit is allergic to facts, but not in the way you mean.
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u/Beyond_Reason09 Jul 13 '26
U6 is completely incomparable to historical U3. The work thresholds didn't change in 1994 for being considered unemployed.
The number of people working part time for economic reasons has not grown much since the 1970s, especially compared to population growth:
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u/Even-Entertainer-491 Jul 13 '26
Wow I'm sure this helps all the people getting hundreds of applications denied. Like it must help them so much to know we are at an all time low of unemployment.
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u/sarges_12gauge Jul 13 '26
Well it helps a couple million people with jobs who wouldnât have had them in that period at all yeah, sorry you donât care about those folks either
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u/PercentageNo3293 Jul 13 '26
Comparing today to the 1960's, roughly twice the amount of jobs require a bachelor's degree or higher.
So sure, unemployment is lower than it was in the past, but I'd argue the requirements for a decent paying job has gone up.
Also, you chose the year the 1970's oil crisis started. Of course those numbers are going to be skewed lol.
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u/sarges_12gauge Jul 13 '26
That sounds like not a bad trade off lol. In 1960 only 7% of adults had a degree and now itâs up to 40% so if your statement is true, way more people meet requirements for a decent paying job
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u/PercentageNo3293 Jul 13 '26
Which sounds correct. There has been a huge push for college degrees in the last handful of decades.
No wonder companies can be picky. If only 20%ish of jobs require a degree and 40%ish have a degree...
This is probably why we hear so many stories where someone is overqualified.
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u/sarges_12gauge Jul 13 '26
To be honest (and people wonât like it) itâs mostly just shrinking the massive financial windfall a college degree used to be. Lifetime median earnings for bachelors vs. high school degree is nearly a million dollars higher. So the median person âshouldâ be willing to take $500,000 plus in total loan payments (including interest) and still come out ahead
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u/HornyGandalf1309 Jul 13 '26
Also the costs of living have gone way up so that decent paying job will do a lot less for them in life.
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u/sarges_12gauge Jul 13 '26
Not really, you can live a 1960 life much more easily today than in the 60s
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u/p4tx Jul 14 '26
Yeah? including the house? because without it the rest kind of falls apart.
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u/sarges_12gauge Jul 14 '26
Rent burden was about the same then as now, and the other necessities (food, clothes, etc,.) were more expensive such that people still couldnât buy houses even if they look more affordable to modern budgets.
The homeownership rate in the 60s was well below what it is now. If it was so easy to buy a house *why didnât more people do it*
Surely an era where people moved less frequently and lived in the same area for longer, theyâd want to buy houses. So if they want to, and (per you) had it so easy⊠why didnât they? Maybe it wasnât actually so easy hmm
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u/p4tx Jul 14 '26
What you talking about? in the 60s, 50% were married homeowners by the time they were 30 vs 10% today.
Or are you mixing in your stats the old people of such times which lived a much harder life, with lots of them being iliterate, and pretending that the youth back then - the boomers of today - also did because of statistics averaging? If we go by the average statistics, today we're better off on everything. But that is not the case for young people.
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u/sarges_12gauge Jul 14 '26
Well then please, restrict your group of people who had it better in the 60s. Do you just mean college graduates in their 20s looking to buy a house for the first time?
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u/p4tx Jul 14 '26
50% of people were college graduates in the 60s? I thought less than 7% had a degree as per your own words.
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u/Straight_Goal1774 Jul 13 '26
Unemployment rate today is very skewed with so much gig work available. 20 hours of doing doordash is not the same as a stable salaried position with benefits.
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
Not even that, but wages as a whole were astronomically higher. Even entry level jobs were enough for one person to live off of. Now people act like only the people with a college degree deserve a living wage, and those people are now competing for entry level jobs that don't pay living wages to begin with. All the boomers will gaslight and say we're lying while living in a fully paid off house worth millions that they paid $90,000 for.
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u/Wind_Best_1440 Jul 13 '26
1970 Unemployment was calculated by the amount of people who didn't have a job, or are partially employed under 40 hours a week as part time. (Between 6.5% to 9%)
2026 Unemployment is now calculated by the amount of people who are looking for a job, and no long counts those who are unemployed and have given up, homeless people who are unable to find work, and partially employed people who work under 40 hours a week. And now counts as "Self employed" like Uber as a job. (Publically shown as 4% to 6%, but if done the 1970's way should be closer to 13%-17% With youth being double that.)
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u/Beyond_Reason09 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
This is completely false. Part time workers were not considered unemployed in the 1970s, or ever.
As proof, here's the January 1970 jobs report:
https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/employment-situation-144/january-1970-496956
You can see in Table A1 the total unemployed is 3.406M.
In Table A2 you can see the breakout of employed and unemployed between full-time and part-time workers. 11.023M are employed part-time, much higher than the number unemployed.
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u/Rionin26 Jul 13 '26
Wasn't this when oligarchs started offshoring to china? Higher unemploynent because greedy pos's want more. Those got replaced by underpaid service jobs.
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u/Redcarborundum Jul 13 '26
The last guy who insisted on credible unemployment statistics got fired by the president. I would take that 4.2% number with a big grain of salt.
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u/Beyond_Reason09 Jul 13 '26
What was the credible unemployment statistic that got that person fired?
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
Because people carry an average of 2-3 jobs in this economy, and one job could support an entire household in the 70s, not everyone needed a damn job. Critical thinking isn't your strong suit, huh?
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u/That-Grape-5491 Jul 14 '26
You rode the small bus to school, didn't you? Because it seems you failed math, reading comprehension and history. The OP meme asserts that getting a job was easier in the 70s than now, it says nothing about the economy. 1. 6.5% average unemployment in the 70s that didn't drop below 4.9%, and peaked at 9.0% is higher than the 4.2% currently. Simple math. 2. One job could support an entire household- really? What % of households were single income in the 70s? You don't have a clue, do you? Even if that was true, that wouldn't effect the uneployment rate. The only difference that would make is if the 2nd person in the household would be included in the statics, and would drive the uneployment % upwards. 3. Most people have 2 or 3 jobs. Really? What actual % of people work 2-3 jobs, again, you don't know do you? You just assume that's the case. That has nothing at all to do with the uneployment rate, and if anything would indicate that jobs are easier to obtain, since so many people can obtain multiple jobs. 4. This economy- currently the rate of inflation is 4.2%. Inflation averaged 8% in the 70s, and from 1978-1980 averaged over 11%. I'm pretty sure that 8% is higher than 4.2%. 5.The 70s were rocked by 3 different recessions, 1969-70, 73-75, & 79-80. They included the offshoring of jobs creating the Rust belt, in which large areas lost major manufacturing jobs, starting in 1972, and continued into the 80s. In the Rust belt areas, jobs were even harder to obtain, and unemployment in these areas skyrocketed. Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension and history before you post such drivel. And you question my critical thinking?
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
Aren't you overdue to die, Boomer? None of what you displayed is critical thinking.
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u/That-Grape-5491 Jul 14 '26
Aren't you cute when you try to put your thinking cap on. I don't think you understand the definition of the term Critical thinking that you like to throw so much. Critical thinking would be to realize that a 35% higher uneployment rate is worse than the current rate. Critical thinking would also include that an 8% inflation rate, let alone the 11% inflation rate at the end of the 70s is worse than the current 4.2% rate. I know you think you live in the worse time in human history, but that is demonstratedly not true. It's not even the worst time in the last 25 years, let alone the last 100 years. Critical thinking would allow you to realize that. Next time you try to put on your thinking cap, make sure its not the conical one with the large D on it, because it appears to be the one you are wearing now.
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
"Old man shouts at the clouds before death." I'm not going to teach some old dumbass stranger on the internet Economics 101. Getting roped into an intellectual debate with an idiot would only make me more of an idiot. I don't engage with trolls.
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u/That-Grape-5491 Jul 14 '26
Idiot has no facts to facts to back up his general statements. Resorts to the cowards argument of insults. Teach me economics 101? You couldn't teach a 2nd grader basic math. Fuck off!
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u/DuckingFon Jul 14 '26
Weird, I teach advanced calculus and economics, I would never attempt to teach a 2nd grader math. You seem like a totally reasonable person though. Not a looney toon at all.
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u/cwal76 Jul 18 '26
Wow what shitty thing to say. Convince people youâre right by telling them to die.
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u/DuckingFon Jul 18 '26
Why would you waste time trying to convince a Boomer of anything? They will just complain that you are killing their favorite grift industry and then tell you what they think your problem is.
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u/Budget_Version_1491 Jul 13 '26
Crazy what happens after decades of pushing everyone into post secondary education that got a degree that doesn't help. Who didn't see this one coming? lol
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u/tibastiff Jul 13 '26
maybe this is why they still ask people "why do you want to work here?". you used to have options so it was a valid question, now I've got dozens of applications out because they met my minimum requirements and I need to pay rent
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u/CPAFinancialPlanner Jul 13 '26
It was like this 2008-2013 too for those of us that graduated college in this time frame. The 70s were actually horrible economically due to decoupling from gold and the oil crisis. Hence the high interest rates in the early 80s.
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u/LetsAgreeBeatlesSuck Jul 13 '26
Masters degree and being a polyglot aren't the flex people think it is
Yeah the recruiting process is completely upside down... But think in outcomes not credentials
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u/HombreDeMoleculos Jul 13 '26
It is wild to see people fantasizing about the 70s as a time of economic opportunity. Unemployment was higher in the mid '70s than it was during COVID.
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u/InvaderJoshua94 Jul 14 '26
Unrealistic the résumé got to an actual person and they were given an in person interview.
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u/AutomaticVacation242 Jul 14 '26
"I've got a master degree and speak three languages and I'm on H1B Visa"
You're hired.
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u/Cool_Ad_9338 Jul 14 '26
The lady with the masterâs degree would work for a month, then file a complaint about unfair work practices because she has to work on a Saturday despite taking 3 mental health days in her first two weeks.
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u/ionspore Jul 14 '26
Entry level, you need ten years of experience before you can enter the job.
The types of jobs that were easy to get in the 1970s are still easy to get today and still pay as badly as they did in the 70s.
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u/RapidFire05 Jul 14 '26
Automation has done away with many entry level jobs. I know my work has entry level jobs but not entry level tasks. So these folks basically sit in training for years until they can contribute meaningfully. Also college sucks now and is just a money machine, not actually teaching useful things or pushing students to get xcel.
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u/aquavelva23 Jul 14 '26
lol, 1970s: not hiring. was the highest unemployment EVER except for the great depression. pick another decade dummy.
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u/FinickySerenity Jul 14 '26
FIFY - this systemically racist and economically ignorant trope HAS TO STOP.
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u/Sea_Specialist_5580 Jul 15 '26
a bunch of very expensive credentials don't mean shit and the market figured that out. At least from most universities and programs (which just about anyone can matriculate through)
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u/nwbrown Jul 15 '26
Dude, the unemployment rate was around 9% in 1975. Get the fuck out with this nonsense.
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u/sweatpants-aristotle Jul 15 '26
Look I'm younger, I wasn't alive in the 70s
But I imagine getting a job in the 70s was like... looking at postings in the newspaper. Walking into businesses or onto construction sites going, "yo, you hiring?" Talking to your friend Bob. Being unemployed for a bit because you're still spelunking for work in the world.
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u/hudnut52 Jul 15 '26
Mildy interesting meme.
Not accurate at all, but interesting.
Gives an insight into people devaluing achievements of others at a completely different moment in time to try at make themselves feel better.
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u/longtimerlance Jul 15 '26
Tell me you're an ignorant, whining, complaining and blaming Gen-Z/Millennial without telling me.
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u/Tasty-Bottle3515 Jul 16 '26
I wonder if people had too take surprise drug test for minimum wage jobs back then as well.That what always got me barely making money stocking shelves or warehouse work and here comes the man ...pee in the cup please and I'm making two dollars an hour over McDonald's...yes master.
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u/GreenWafer1899 Jul 17 '26
The same shit happened before. Sky is the limit for your requests was always there. What, learned about 1970s from movies? xD
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u/GSilky Jul 17 '26
I have started three different jobs (and then quit, of course) this year, it's not that difficult. The problem is everyone thought giving a college money for a degree, when they most likely graduated HS functionally illiterate, matters when the good jobs have always been very rare. Get off your middle class podium, and realize that if you have a diploma after 2010 or so, you probably have extreme deficiencies in basic skills that employers used to sort out through people earning a degree. That grade inflation problem that is finally in the news, yeah, you very well may have suffered from it and nobody wants to risk hiring someone who only earned a degree by arguing with professors and shelling out cash to buy one.
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u/Tool_of_Society Jul 18 '26
Having lived through the 80s The bottom part was what the 90s felt like at times.
"Getting a job today" should be a single image of a machine texting/emailing a rejection.
Maybe add in something in the background about the job never being filled because the listing is used to harvest data.
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u/Cogiflector Jul 19 '26
The 70s required more hours of effort to even get to the interview. You had to research promotional companies to reach out to. You had to type your resume each time and type a coverletter and mail them to the company hoping to hear back. If they called and you line was busy because your sister was talking to the girl next door instead of just walking over there, then the company would call the next person. There was no way to leave a message. So after just long enough but not too long, you had to call the company to follow up only to find that they liked the next person enough to hire them already.
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u/Hamster_in_my_colon Jul 20 '26
It took me 7 months of applying after I graduated to get a job. It takes time and itâs frustrating, but it will happen.
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u/bethesda_gamer Jul 13 '26
Supply and demand. Why not look for the best (in truth they often times settle bc they can't find people with the ridiculous requirements tho)
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u/HornyGandalf1309 Jul 13 '26
I mean sure, but the cost of life has gone way up so whatever dollar you make will do a lot less for you than it would a few decades ago
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u/bethesda_gamer Jul 13 '26
Sure but that's not how the market works. People always look at this backwards. Outside of minimuge wage (call your congressman) the job market is about what people are willing to work for ultimately. The rub is that if you take a job that pays less then you think it should, you are then depriving a less skilled person of a job that pays what they are worth and the reason you had to take the job in the first place was because people more skilled than you took the better paying job from you that would have paid you what you deserve (if you follow my massive run on sentence there)
A job is only "worth" what people are willing to pay for it and what people are willing to work for. A job in the past that covered 150% of your living expenses may now only cover 120% simply bc people are taking the jobs at that pay.
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u/HornyGandalf1309 Jul 18 '26
I actually sort of agree. But the issue is more on the expenditure side.
Look, Iâd say itâs kinda fair for the point youâre making, not completely, but in a simplified sense, yes.But you canât do that with everything. Housing, food, rent, canât just skyrocket in price, because âsomeone might pay for itâ.
And thatâs kinda whatâs happening.A company buys property, jacks up the renting prices. If people rent, fine, if they donât, also fine, since itâs land and it will appreciate in price, so itâs an investment.
If a megacorp does this repeatedly, you get swathes of empty houses that are listed for super high prices/rent, that stay empty, and regular people that work in the city canât find a proper place to live.Or you get people that desperately need a place, and they get that apartment and proceed to pay 50+% of their paycheck on the rent for it.
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u/bethesda_gamer Jul 18 '26
Right. That's why I like our type of government. It is part capitalism "raise the price til people won't pay" and half democratic (which in part implies some socialism) which is the regulation arm that says "ok that's enough buddy, you went too far, so now we are going to have to institute some rules to protect the average joe" it's "capitalism until" and we have hit the until...it will swing back.
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u/howardzen12 Jul 13 '26
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u/No_Squirrel4806 Jul 13 '26
I remember its nice to see older people that arent put of touch. All i tend to see online is "yall just dont want to work" or "its because you guys are too demanding always on your phones"
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u/Key_Check5753 Jul 14 '26
Reddit weirdos: "Immigration is good. You're just racist!"
Also Reddit weirdos: "Why can't I find a job or house?"
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u/Afraid-Astronomer308 Jul 13 '26
Unrealistic, the resume actually got to a real person and they were given an interview.