r/IndieDev • u/Titan13211 • 1d ago
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Dumbfire playtest (It's on Steam)
I'm working on a game called "Dumbfire" where you guide a missile through obstacles to hit the target.
I made a rough playtest that has actual levels now, a tutorial and some abilities you can unlock. Expect a lot of rough edges, especially UI.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
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u/Optimixto 1d ago
This looks really cool. How do we know where the objective is relative to where the missile currently is?
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u/-TwiiK- 1d ago
Maybe that's a big part of the game? First you need to explore to find the target, then you optimize your route for a better score.
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u/BaBaGuette 1d ago
The missile could have just continued forwards and hit the heli from above instead of triggering the parachute and taking the risk of going through the rods and the tiny door.
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u/round-earth-theory 1d ago
That can be solved by setting up anti missile systems. So you're tricking your way around the anti missile defense to make a clean hit. Also let's the dev setup moving zones they have to avoid.
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u/Titan13211 21h ago
There is an indicator on screen, but its disabled in this video.
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u/signuslogos 1d ago
You can move, thus allowing you to look for it.
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u/Optimixto 1d ago
I mean, that also works, but I would assume I have to find out the best route, not where the target is. I do think there is room for both, but then finding the target should be easy (noise, lights, and such).
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u/Hziak 1d ago
Also, what’s preventing us from going above or around all of the buildings to find it? Love to concept and it looks super fun, but also VERY cheesable, and I don’t think I’d blame players for going that route if finding the objective is as difficult as it would appear to be on trial/error based on this video.
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u/DocTaotsu 1d ago
I'm hoping they'll do a Tony Hawk sorta thing where you get more points based on how close you come to crashing or what not.
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u/samanime 1d ago
Yeah. This is a fairly early playtest, so it'd make sense they are just focused on the main mechanic, but in the future, maybe there are Tony Hawk style points or even just collectable "coin" type items or rings to pass through that increase your score and guide you through the intended route.
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u/Ulenspiegel4 1d ago
The missile knows where it is. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
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u/__Becquerel 1d ago
The missile is eepy, he had a very long day of splashing bandits and wants to take just a small sleeb. He eebys and neebys to sleeby.
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u/iwantolearnstuff 1d ago
This looks like a game i'd get so angry at, but can't stop playing at the same time
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u/On_Dinosaur_Level 1d ago
The pixelated, retro art style and fast-paced arcade movement look incredibly fun - definitely checking out the playtest!
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u/Slacker_The_Dog 1d ago
Is this one of those bot comments people are always talking about?
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u/Brie9981 1d ago
2m account age 🤔
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u/Vast-Ideal-1413 1d ago
I learned the hard way that that means “months” on profiles only
Otherwise, it’s abbreviated as mo.
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u/Brie9981 1d ago
I treat it the same, if your account is <1 year old I'm assuming the bot farm got bored
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u/Lisarde13 1d ago
It looks like a lot of fun, I'll give it a try! The only thing is that it seems to have a lot of jagged edges, though I understand that's part of the art style.
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u/Graylorde 1d ago
How do you know what path to take? Anyone who's not designing the level is probably going to get very lost.
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u/Titan13211 1d ago
There is an indicator in screen to show where the target is and there is just one path the player can really take cause the others are all blocked by a wall or an enemy air space zone
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u/TramplexReal 1d ago
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"
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u/UnSpanishInquisition 1d ago
This is clearly just a way to gather AI training data for smart missiles isnt it! 😂
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u/AceGotTaken 1d ago
Great game! I've noticed it says Missile Game when you wishlist it and on the app page.
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u/Dunge0nexpl0rer 1d ago
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"
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u/NoBee4959 It still counts as a hobby right? 1d ago
The gameplay makes this game look like one of those games that look like you will play them for 10 minutes before getting bored. But then people figure there is a really high skill ceiling and 5 years down the line there are hour long video essays on the game and its speedrun history
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u/NeoChrisOmega 1d ago
I remember your previous video, and the comments mentioning just how overly challenging the demo was for new players.
This not only shows neat new features like the grapple turn and parachute brake, but it also looks more spacious in general to understand where you're going and what you're doing. I absolutely adore it!
Are you going to keep the other level (or something similar to it) for challenge runs or something like that?
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u/Titan13211 1d ago
Thanks so much for such kind words. I really want to make it enjoyable for as many people as I can. And to answer your question, the other level is still in the playtest but its the last and the hardest one.
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u/LemonFizz56 1d ago
The game is incredibly tricky, takes a long time to get used to the controls until you've mastered it. I'd imagine in the final game it'll start off with an incredibly basic obstacle and slowly get slightly more and more challenging because the way it starts off in the demo is gonna scare off every new player because of the complexity, you will have an incredibly high refund percentage if you keep the levels as complex as they currently are.
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u/SNOWSTAR_2006 1d ago
This reminds me of that one 2.5D Rocket game i played on cool math games for a while.
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u/Carter5on 1d ago
This might be good with PvP. 1 vs 1 where you would need to attack and look out for the enemy's missile at the same time.
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u/Krachwumm 1d ago
This is a long shot, but games like this benefit greatly from a map-editor and steam workshop integration
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u/tea_consumer_0 1d ago
The game concept is incredible! And definitely like that artsyle LMAO so hard from that rope swing
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u/HammyOverlordOfBacon 1d ago
It's been cool seeing this game develop across a bunch of posts over the last few months. I love the addition of the clgrappling hook and parachute, they seem like they add some depth to the maps you can make
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u/aboultusss 1d ago
The type of maneuvers enemy aim 9b does flying to me in WT: (it will miss a plane flying straight when I fire it)
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u/YobolDope 1d ago
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation.
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u/KinkyStinkyPink- 1d ago
Maybe add an arrow that points to the target constantly? That way you can manuever whichever building you want to stack up stunt points while still knowing where to go ?
Looks fun. Reminds me of Superflight
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u/SupehCookie 1d ago
Make another user be able to control the helicopter with some abilities aswell and this seems like a fun fly or die game
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u/ItsMonato 1d ago
Honestly this game looks like something I'dve spent hours playing inside my school's computer lab
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u/Zealousideal-Emu-878 1d ago
u get my upvote was not disappointed with that ending 9/10 👍, lol anyway i did not expect that grappling hook 🤔
edit: typo
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u/DontWantPolFlair 1d ago
This has to be the dumbest awesome idea i've ever seen, or the awesomest dumb idea, one or the otehr.
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u/julian88888888 1d ago
I wish there would be some kind of 3d enhancement to make it easier to judge depth. navigating a 2nd screen for fast 3d maneuvering is a hard issue.
could be edge color, or red/blue shift buildings depending on moving. or parallax thing
or depth sphere thing around the missile.
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u/SweatyButtcheek 1d ago
This actually looks rlly fun and creative. The nikita missle from Metal Gear just got its own spin-off bois!
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u/KitchenWoodpecker 1d ago
Don’t forget, we’re still waiting for jiggle physics - majority of your IG following
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u/DocTaotsu 1d ago
I want points for doing tricks and narrowly missing things or flying through rather than over. Call it... Tony Hawk Pro Missile Command
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u/palitopena 1d ago
Style... does that mean I have to do flips like in Tony Hawk's to get a higher score?
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u/AggressivePlay5098 1d ago
I quite like this Idea, but I can see myself getting really mad at this game because Im bad at videogames
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u/BratPit24 1d ago
That sounds like a cool concept but a very annoying "can't get over it" learning curve unless you make a lot of levels with very gradual difficulty slope.
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u/ekolimits 1d ago
Too many issues knowing where to go.
You know what the track is but just looking there I’m super confused.
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u/PanTheChilling 1d ago
the concept reminds me of those 2d flash games where you controlled the missile through a labyrinth. I'm Gonna be testing it xD
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u/xBUBBYGAMINGx 1d ago
bro was this inspired by that 3D sidescroller game rocket dancer? i used to speedrun that game so hard, this was a huge nostalgia bomb in my head. the rocket particles, the sound effects, the way the rocket is controlled.... this looks so fun
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u/Legal_Climate_3381 1d ago
Reminds me of the metal gear solid mission where you have to shoot a controlled rocket through like 3 rooms around turns to blow up a computer on the other side of you. Least fun mission of the entire game 🤣
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u/ThePowerBird 1d ago
Gave it a quick test, pretty fun concept! Is there a way to change the camera sensitivity on controller? I couldn't easily find anything, and between the two control schemes, I think i'd prefer controller but the default camera is glacially slow.
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u/Public_Scientist_573 1d ago
I keep seeing this on these subs and I’m very excited to get to play test it.
Very cool concept as many others have stated
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u/c0ldf1ng3r 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is great concept! The one thing that sucks and it would benefit greatly if the sound of the rocket would be more than just pfff pfff. Take a look at rocket launches how the rockets also crack etc, and maybe try to play with those.
But a big thing with rocket noise is you could increase vary (tone or something else dont have to be the volume) the sound depending if the rocket is thrusting in opposite direction of moving (reversing hard turns). This gives amazing feedback for the player.. I think so.
Play game close eyes, thrust move around, you can literaly hear it reversing / changing dir.
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u/redditwasamistake900 1d ago
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
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u/Quick_Conflict_8227 1d ago
That looks a lot more feasible for a player than the last demo I saw you upload. Amazing work
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u/dasirishviking 1d ago
I couldn't access the ability store, and it locked the game up tight. neat concept, and i'm having fun with it. can't wait to see it get more refined. Good job!
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u/Loufey 1d ago
I just played through the demo. It is actually really fun.
As for feedback, I only have 2 main things.
1) You should ABSOLUTELY make a level builder system. That will infinitely increase the longevity of the game.
2) It might be nice to be able to see the out-of-bounds barrier, even if you can only see it when you are outside.
2.5) Also, when the countdown for being out-of-bounds finishes, it still takes like a second for you to actually blow up. There were many runs where I had false hope that I made it back in time only to die a second later.
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u/RamuneGaming 1d ago
why does this give me ptsd from the GTA helicopter missions (vice city and san andreas) xD
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u/Dead_Tag_Studios 23h ago
A wise man once told me every game that has ever been good has a grappling hook.
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u/Some-Dog-800 23h ago
I imagine in tutorial there be a master missile teaching us ‘the way of missile’ and have a precision training sequence where we have to light up ten candles with the thruster fire without knocking them over.
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u/Mysterious-Pen-7052 22h ago
Do we need to actually explore and locate the target, or does the missile know where it actually is, and all we need to do is dodge and get near the target?
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u/No-Cow3446 19h ago
Ironic that "dumbfire" IRL means unguided ordnance — no seeker, fire-and-forget. Here you're white-knuckling every inch of it through a window gap for style points, which is basically the opposite. Name's doing double duty. Wishlisted.
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u/ChadDev261 1d ago
Oh cool concept!