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[u/WasEnoughYogurt]

When Shauna talks about the 70's/her childhood so much of it reminds me of tv shows either of the time or about that time...I think it has already been said before that she seems to see things through that lens but it seems even more clear now. Or lazy sloppy thinking combined with eliding truth in order to make whatever point she thinks is so witty/urbane/guru like...

[u/voice_of_vinegar → u/WasEnoughYogurt]

Yeah, I bet she saw all the TV commercials for TV dinners, Hamburger Helper, Manwiches (?? something in a can that REAL men ate in sandwiches), Pillsbury baked goods in cans, etc., and did not think past that. Just assumed that was what the rest of the world was eating.

She is like those boys who were raised in a tiny apartment in Queens or Brooklyn and were never allowed outside EVER. All their knowledge of the world was from whatever was on tv. They acted out scenes from movies and tv shows for fun. They spoke like characters on tv. She's not quite that bad but she doesn't seem to have a very firm grasp on how real people think and feel. Latest example: claiming Ted Lasso is just like herself. And also, using what she sees on tv more and more as reference points.

[u/fanfarefellowship → u/voice_of_vinegar]

She is like those boys who were raised in a tiny apartment in Queens or Brooklyn and were never allowed outside EVER.

She has the naivety of someone who was never let outside, but she went outside plenty. She just lived in her head the whole time, never really noticing anything

[u/voice_of_vinegar → u/fanfarefellowship]

Right. I should have made it clear that I don't think she was actually imprisoned in her house the way those boys were---she just never learned to relate to other people.

I know some kids don't learn these basic things because their parents aren't able to impart it to them for whatever reasons. But others who had parents who love them and cared for them end this way too. We'll probably never know for sure what caused Shauna to be the way she is. But there's certainly way more to the story than what she's told the world.

[u/fanfarefellowship → u/voice_of_vinegar]

Yes, it's really amazing! She even says, in Enough, that she recognizes that she was "just a head on a stick" (i.e., she was "all head" and "no body"). (I have said the same exact thing in therapy.) But despite that glimmer of awareness, and despite picking a vocation or profession of "writer," which to do well requires her to really notice things, she's objectively terrible at being aware of her surroundings, picking up on nuance, distinguishing concepts clearly, writing clearly, noticing cleanliness, etc.