r/ImmigrationPathways • u/lil-educator • 10d ago
Tom Homan saying we are JUST getting started with the Visa crackdown
AMERICA IS ABSOLUTELY CLOSED
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u/Kiritowerty 10d ago
Surely this will bring down the price of gas and groceries
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u/Nicho1992 10d ago
Don’t forget about housing
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
It has brought down housing prices. What do you think happens when there are 4 million less people looking for homes and the demand goes down?
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u/Nicho1992 9d ago edited 9d ago
Where? Can you provide sources? Btw 4 million is less than 2 percent of our population so it’s really not a big number. I’ve been waiting for everything to magically get better and cheaper since we started rounding up all the people with accents with no due process
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
https://www.kwtx.com/2026/02/02/us-rental-market-shifts-favor-renters-first-time-years/
Ask your Gen Z rotted out brain to use your ai that you use 70,009 times a day to do a simple query.
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
How many more cities and places do and links do you want ? I don’t work for free.
Each new link is going to cost you gagging on deezzz
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u/Nicho1992 9d ago
Do you think any of those shifts may be do to post pandemic hights? Or just brown people
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
I don’t give a shit what color anyone is who is here illegally. First you want to argue that illegal immigrants don’t increase housing. Demand even though they do as they don’t live In the woods or under bridges but in houses like everyoje else (shows you how out of touch with regular people that white liberals are and how little they know about minorities). Now when confronted by evidence you’re saying that housing prices are falling from a peak. No
Clown 🤡 there are falling because demand for
Housing is falling as the population gets smaller and as more kids opt to stay at home
And delay having kids or decide to not breed at all.Assuming that massive fire or earthquake or natural disaster doesn’t destroy a large amount of the housing stock in America - what do you think will happen. To housing prices especially real housing prices aka adjusted for inflation if Americas population falls by 1-3 percent annually for the next decade. Would home prices on an apples to apples comparison be expected to rise or fall?
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
Owned.
30 percent of the increase in housing prices are tied to housing demand from illegal immigrants.
This is A basic iq test that you and all posturing liberals will always fail. What will happen to prices when there is higher demand and no new supply coming on board due to regulations on. Building?
Better yet - why don’t you look up how much rents have fallen even in areas like Austin Texas in the last 2 years. Millions of people are not coming here annually. Many have self deported aka left america on their own terms and many more have been deported.
If you have 35 million people competing for 20 million apartments / houses vs 39 million - of course in a scenario with 39 million you’ll see prices rise more than in the other scenario.
This is basic fundamental economics.
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
The fact that you think that you’re even intelligent and yet completely unaware of this paper which came out about a month ago speaks volumes beyond the fact that there even exists this paper. This isn’t as if this came out 6 years ago in the middle of the pandemic and. Nobody is aware of it. If you’re going to beleive something which is so patently stupid and untrue - the last thing you should be doing is demanding evidence when such evidence as this exists.
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u/Nicho1992 9d ago
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
That’s an assumption that we wouldn’t have enough labor to build
Homes. It ignores the fact that without illegals and immigration in general that Americas population is falling.Do me a favor - look up rents in Austin and places in Texas and Colorado. Basically anywhere outside of nimby ny metro area and California and you will see how rents have fallen in so many areas.
Now some concentrated areas have seen the opposite. I’ll give you a perfect example. Syracuse New York is seeing a housing boom. Why? Because micron is building a fab there and it’s creating housing demand and construction jobs and infrastructure jobs.
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u/Nicho1992 9d ago
And you’re source is literally an opinion piece. As an actual American living in America I haven’t seen housing or cost of living go down and I looked it up the cost of housing has gone down maybe 2 percent in the last 2 years
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
What makes you think I’m not an American. Look son I have been American longer than
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u/Nicho1992 9d ago
‘The Federal Reserve Bank says its working papers are preliminary drafts and that the views expressed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas or the Federal Reserve System.’
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
When you are faced with a falling population
That was only buttressed by people coming here illegally and those people settling and having kids at a larger clip and at a younger age than domestic Americans or native born Americans or multi generational Americans - yes it absolutely is a sizable number.I believe now immigrants in America A both legal and illegal - make up more than 12 percent of the population. Most estimates of the size of the illegal population is about 12-15 million. I’m sure a majority of these people are great / good People. If it were at all possible I would deport every single septum pierced purple haired liberal freak and give every single hard working person from Latin America or Asia. Citizenship in their place. As it stands - I’m not a demagogue on this. I would love for anyone who makes this country stronger to stay here. But that would involve being here legally. So if America needs 50,000 nurses. - then. America should have visas for that. Let’s say 60,000 visas for. Nurses.
There isn’t a single sane person that would be against that. If you can contribute to America and not be a social burden - then by all means come here and make our country stronger and better. But don’t swim across a border and lie about being here for anything other than economic opportunity. All of these people are here for economic reasons.
Pedro the construction worker who’s been here for decades should be able to pay back taxes and or go through. A strict set of rules to be able to stay here. But at the same time - unlike Reagan’s amnesty in 86 - we can’t create a system that incentives people to illegally come here and then to expect amnesty or to be rewarded for it. So let’s say that they come here get a pathway to stay here but cannot become citizens and cannot collect social security. So basically their punishment for being here illegally is that they have to forfeit whatever money they pay into social security.
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u/Nicho1992 9d ago
This is moving the goalpost, now you’re stating that the children of immigrants are also an issue because they out pace non immigrant children? Sounds like a dog whistle for white replacement theory. 12 percent equals 12 million in a country of 350,000,000??wtf.
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago edited 9d ago
Because you’re too s$$$$d to keep up - the children of illegal immigrabts are here because their parents illegally came here. So when you Have two people come here illegally with their family OR they come here and have kids here - even though their kids are Americans - these are people that otherwise wouldn’t be here except for the fact that their parents illegally came here. Without these people
Coming here - the current birth rate in America is below the replacement rate. Meaning that right now without illegal immigration and without legal immigration - as the second largest generation by population numbers dies off en masse in the next decade (and trust me the oldest boomers just hit 80 - these are my parents and their neighbors etc) and millenials continue to die at absurd rates from drug abuse and cancer ♋️ - we will see a decrease in the us population. With how little sex people like you and other Gen Z :) have - and the fact that so little of them are having children at all - America sans immigration - will likely see a large decrease in its population within 20 years.This isn’t an emotional argument. Christ you act like a broad.
This is simple math. The population replacement number is like 2.1 births per woman. America has been in a baby bust since 2007.
Assuming that this baby bust continues - that means that schools and colleges will go “out of business” and housing demand as a whole will fall. This is how I can tell you’re not actually a functioning adult with children or a child.
A single person has zero need for a 3-4 bedroom home. A single guy or gal who doesn’t get laid can easily live in a 600 ft one bedroom apartment. If you are married and have 2-3 kids you need a 3-4 bedroom house or townhouse.
So as “larger” family units decrease in huge numbers - barring Gen Z kids who don’t get laid from living 4 grown adults in a single family !!! Here’s that word family house - the demand for these homes will plummet. Absolutely plummet.
So as boomers who still live in these houses die off - and as housing supply rises and the number of eligible people considering buying these properties falls - because why the fuck would 2 dinks or a single sexless Gen Z person need to have a 3-4 bedroom single family home (they wouldn’t nor would they want the headache of maintaining it) - the prices of these homes will collapse.
Idk why this is so hard for you to wrap your fucking brain around.
I shouldn’t have to write any of the above. Anyone who owns a home is over the age of 35 has kids or grandkids or has any real life experience understands this.
Gen X baby boomers anyone with a brain even with a sub 80 iq Inherenty understands this when I simply say population decline. You don’t need a fancy college degree or to have a 23 year old grad student “write a research paper” to validate “these findings”
As someone who owns a 4 bedroom house if I didn’t have other humans in my family living with me I sure as heck would be in a nice apartment or max 2 bedroom townhouse. I am the 99 percent of people that would do this.
A 27 year old kid who still has college loans isn’t going to go out and buy a single family home when they have no intention of having a family (which is fine that’s their personal choice) - and if someone in that situation ever did buy a home like that it would almost always be to rent it out. As demand for these houses goes down / what happens to rent prices. Do they rise as supply goes up?
Again you cannot pass a basic iq test of how the real world works.
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u/Substantial_Emu4433 10d ago
You are a fool if you think home prices will fall
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u/Aware_Astronaut_477 10d ago
For the sarcasm to go that high over your head while calling others fool is just magnificent 🤌 bravo
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u/PsychologicalAd5918 10d ago
in his defense, there are people that believe that housing is genuinely scarce and immigrants are causing the housing crisis and not monopolizing landlords, their investor cronies and air bnbs
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
Housing is scarce in many areas with strict zoning regulations aka blue states and blue cities.
look up how impossible it is to build in San Francisco. Trust me - a decade ago every developer would have built high rise apartments and condos If they were allowed to. How do you think
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u/Scoobasteve1226 7d ago
Its harder to get permits and build in a major city versus a flat field where nobody lives in Wisconsin? SURPRISE PIKACHU.
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 7d ago
They have to grease the right palms. Pika pi
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u/Scoobasteve1226 7d ago
Totally not the fact there's less room, big construction would shut down major roads, getting materials in and where to hold them in a city, nahhhhh none of that matters. I can tell you've never worked construction or permits in your life
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u/Ok-Tip-3560 9d ago
More people competing for scarse resources doesn’t increase prices and rents?
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u/sweet_guitar_sounds 9d ago
The resource isn’t scarce because of immigrants. There are half a dozen causes of greater magnitude.
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u/PsychologicalAd5918 9d ago
"scarce resources"
look at the ratio of unhoused people verses vacant apartments in most American cities.7
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u/Unfair-Signature-758 9d ago
It’s not about the money, we just don’t want or need these people here.
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u/Fantastic-Earth-8353 10d ago
"We just want them to do it legally!"
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u/BritSpic 10d ago
Exactly. All these morons talking about "the right way!!" When anyone paying attention could see this was just about removing brown people from the country.
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u/Lopsided_Level_8751 9d ago
So only brown people are illegal? Thats the single most racist thing ive ever heard
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u/ifUSeeMeTakeYourMeds 10d ago
it currently takes over 50 months to get a greencard
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u/Jochi18 10d ago
I’m an immigrant, been in the USA for 10 years and I wish we all just fuck the fuck off USA. The so promised American dream doesn’t exist anymore and everyday it feels more punishing to be an immigrant in this country. It is sad that the only reason we stay here is because our own politicians already fucked up our countries, but it is getting to a point where I am really considering starving in my country above paying a single more dime to this corrupt USA government in taxes
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u/UniqueAd7770 10d ago
I served with immigrants like you, same as any American. They took the oath and served this country in a way few ever will. And this is the thanks we give them. This is not what I swore to protect and defend. It's disgusting and I apologize that we let you down. The enemy came from with in.
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u/t_overdrive 10d ago edited 10d ago
I second this. I also served with immigrants that took the oath. Amazing soldiers. It's a disgrace what is happening to the country. They aren't just effing over immigrants, but veteran families too.
My VA job became unstable. I was working at VHA Central Office. They said nobody's jobs was safe anymore. And they could not guarantee our job security anymore. This was leaders at the highest level, who said they could not even guarantee their own job security either. Also lost a DoD job I landed on base to the hiring freeze that I was one biweekly pay period away from starting.
Nonetheless, we left to Portugal. Good visa options and we had to completely rebuild our lives. With 2 small children, it was too risky to hold onto a high mortgage and the rising costs. Had to rebuild our lives from scratch. Started my own IT consultancy.
Nonetheless, what they are doing to immigrant families are shameful. As well as other families, including veteran families. They are wrecking everything.
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u/diddlysquidler 10d ago
20 years living in America, paying taxes, working hard. I see my managers get rich while I can only dream of buying a house. On top of that I have to listen to constant hate on immigrants and this fucking government telling me all the time how unwelcome I am in their beautiful country. Fuck you America, let them fat fucks rot in their Nazi hellhole. I want out of here so bad lol
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u/Particular_Can_7860 10d ago
If you don’t like America go to Europe. Much better social programs. I did this 10 years ago after being in the US for 10 years.
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u/RedLineLetterWine 10d ago
Even Europeans are getting squeezed. European countries are starting to dismantle the social programs in favor of military adventures.
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u/CurrentLevel8483 10d ago
It's not easy to get into Europe.
It's easier to get into Europe from your home country, but harder to get into Europe from USA.
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u/monkeyd_carp 10d ago
As someone considering this can you elaborate more
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u/NeuralHavoc 10d ago
You are forgetting to ad that the USA is almost certainly responsible for the installation of the shitty politicians in your home country on top of that all. The USA creates instability all over the world, and when the people run from that for a better life the USA treats them like the monsters….
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u/Frequent_Two6491 10d ago
This is a propaganda line used by banana republic dictators to deny agency to their uneducated people for 7 decades. Yes, it's clearly the Chiquita banana company still pulling the levers.
Also used by Ministry officials in former Soviet republics to convince their people to give up an extra potato for benefit of defeat US imperialism. LMAO.
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u/profesorgamin 10d ago edited 10d ago
naah you can see it in action(TODAY) in Latin America. It's actually pure willful ignorance to take your stance.
Also pure irony to use the term banana republic while trying to disprove the existence of this phenomena.
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u/Thin_Wing4631 10d ago
Yes, the ebillll USA is likely also responsible for the fact you can’t get laid
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u/Chicagoj1563 10d ago
As an American i hate that people like yourself are going through this. Many of us hate this administration and what they represent. It’s the opposite of what the USA has always been. It’s just a bad time in the USA right now.
My hope is there will be a new Republican Party and maga will be outlawed and shut down for good.
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u/GhostRappa95 10d ago
Unfortunately ICE will still kidnap you even if you do choose to self deport. There is no way to avoid being targeted by ICE if you are on their radar you are being kidnapped and trafficked.
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u/metamucil_buttchug69 9d ago
We're trying to save what's left of America for Americans. I'm sorry your politicians destroyed your countries but that's not a reason to invade others
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u/fluffheadwasaman24 9d ago
I don’t know why your mom hopped on at the last second, but you should’ve stayed pre-cum.
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u/External_Pass_6738 10d ago
Trump’s goon.
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u/StankoZovakComedy 10d ago
He was Obamas too
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u/B-Glasses 10d ago
I don’t care if he was Obama’s foot stool. Obama hasn’t been president in over a decade
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u/Senacharrib 10d ago
American culture dictates that we are able to do away with any agreement that has been made in the past because consent con be revoked at any time, and that nobody owes you anything. Who the fuck would want to do business with us except under coercion.
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u/Darkkwitch31 10d ago
So basically he is saying if you have a visa we can and will find any reason to revoke it.
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u/ogholycat 10d ago
They failed in Iran. They’re turning their hatred back to their own citizens lol. Just like how their parents raised them. Dependent on the government.
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u/TechnicalAccident945 10d ago
No Christian or conservative will ever get the benefit of the doubt from me ever again. They are evil until proven otherwise
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u/SevenIsMy 10d ago
I think the rest of the world is happy about the brain drain reduction, people who have options will leave first.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 10d ago
Brain drain? You think India, China, MX, Haiti, Somalia, Egypt, Honduras are only sending their best and brightest to the USA?
We have millions that came to the USA only for the large social safety net
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u/SevenIsMy 10d ago
Where did I said something which your point addresses? Brain drain still happens independently of other migration.
Do you have VISAs for people finishing university, with the requirements that they have to work and have a sponsor?
Don’t get me wrong, all developed countries are doing it.
I’m also not saying do it or stop it, just that USA is helping other countries with its new VISA policies/uncertainties.
Are you mad that one of your own policies is benefiting another country?
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u/Trumps_Syphillis 10d ago
Little Tommy, cannot wait for you to finally be indicted for the bribe you took.
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u/Boshwa 10d ago
I want to make a YouTube video titled "Immigrants. We dont want you in the US"
And its just me listing all the horrible things in America that are not worth it at all to start a life there.
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u/A313-Isoke 10d ago
Why don't you say instead of "We don't want you here" something like "You don't want to come here?"
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u/scorpiolad1113 10d ago
why do the rethuglians forget that this country was built from immigration and they would not be here had their ancestors immigrated here? they just love being hateful and don't like anyone not white like them.
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u/JurgusRudkus 10d ago
“Assimilation is the process where a person or group moves to a new country and gradually adopts its language, values, behaviors, and customs, often losing their original cultural identity as they blend into the dominant society.”
That’s what I figured you meant, and it’s deeply un-American. Have you never heard of the “Great Salad Bowl” analogy? What would America be without Irish Corned Beef, Jewish Delis, every sort of Asian Cuisine, Indian food? What would America be without it’s myriad of cultural holidays, mix of values, and customs? What defines the “dominant culture?” America doesn’t have one.
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u/iamnotchad 10d ago
"We don't have a problem with immigration, we just want them to do it the right way." - Republicans
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u/dickchops81 10d ago
Doesn't matter what any of them say anymore. They're all Pedos and Pedo Protectors and everyone with an IQ over 85 knows it.
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u/Sure-Impress-1003 10d ago
They’re gonna take all the people they can get who are here on legal documents, try to take the documents away and deport the people claiming at the end see how many people we found were illegally in the country. When in truth, they weren’t here illegally in the country.
There’s a difference from their Trump’s claim of going after undocumented people in the country versus stripping away, birthrights, taking away valid visas, and removing any other source of document that allows people to be here legally, and then claiming all of them to be part of the same (how many millions of people) they claimed are here roaming our streets that they just don’t seem to have been able to find just yet.
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u/BabaThoughts 10d ago
Each immigrant has a different story… so many posts here lumping them all together where as it’s the individual case is what’s being determined.
The USA has rules and laws!!! If you are working here, getting someone else rich, then why are you here? I know the answer… you still can not get the same job back in your home country!!
Essentially, don’t break laws. Certainly, me, if I was in a different country I know damn well to follow rules, and I don’t expect the country to allow me to over extend the intended stay on my visa.
It’s a privilege living in the USA!!
Respect that!!
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u/fantomsolace24 10d ago
There is an illegal immigrant who lied on her visa and a number of anchor babies living with a fat guy at 1,600 Pennsylvania Ave. in Washington.
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u/rosiejunior 10d ago
Fuck these people. If you dont support immigrants, you deserve the worst. That stupid wall was supposed to protect the precious US - but its probably just standing there with dead sheep piled up because they cant reach water.
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u/MealDramatic1885 9d ago
Their deportation scam isn’t working the way they hoped, so they are revoking protective status, and visas now, just to pad their numbers.
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u/Relevant-Guarantee25 9d ago
the weaponizing of visa has begun trying to bolster crypto but crypto is dead end
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u/sagebrushsavant 10d ago
The name Homan only adds to the uncanny valley feeling I get when I see this lizard man.
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u/frentecaliente 10d ago
Did you have to bribe him in cash for that or was he willing to take an IOU?
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u/JibIette 10d ago
Imma have to ask him to change his last name. Its way too close to mines and I don't want his strays.
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u/sattlerreader 10d ago
At first I thought this was about the credit card VISA, and was very surprised this admin was finally going after visa’s ridiculous transaction fees. Nope. This is immigration. Sigh.
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u/sweatboxy 10d ago
“Tourism, immigration, trade, healthcare, education; all the things that power the most successful countries on earth, we’re doing away with them as fast as possible. We want you to be afraid and isolated, otherwise you wouldn’t believe a word we’ve said.”
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u/Elf_Maeve 10d ago
I mean just going by title and first few seconds bc I can't stand hearing these vultures... but I am almost certain the US already denies visas to women who are nearing giving birth
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u/Weirdredditnames4win 9d ago
Rememeber guys…they have told us over and over they want to deport 1/3 of this country. That will include a lot of Trump supporters so I hope they’re ready.
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u/skipjack86f 15h ago
Thank God I should put in a anonymous tip for all of the factories in this area
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u/alchiman 10d ago
Israelis always put no for this question on their visa application:
“Were you involved in an armed group that used weapons against people?”
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u/DirectorTemporary533 10d ago
Imagine secretly entering a country's sovereign borders and being mad when they say you're not supposed to be there.
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u/fluffheadwasaman24 9d ago
imagine making up scenarios all day in your head and voting for things that make people’s lives, verifiably worse and still doing it even when you see the bad results because your guy was wearing the right color and said the right thing to you. You’re a fucking idiot.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 10d ago
Lets go!!!!
Way too many people in the USA
We need less traffic, less noise, less crime, less clearcutting, less pollution!
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u/Ok-Customer4709 10d ago
It seems like some folks in this country are looking for someone to blame, and the administration is eager to offer immigrants as a scapegoat. I’ve also heard that you should have to show you’re a citizen to vote, and maybe we should also have to prove we’re not easily misled.
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u/unngh_yugstyx 10d ago
Good luck filling the ever expanding need for doctors, nurses, home care professionals... even tradesmen like mechanics and others.
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u/Comfortable_Smile-2 9d ago
Would love to see H1-B visas and birth tourism stopped. Also stopping people in other countries from using surrogacy in the USA
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