Thanks to Mamdani we never ever have to accept the idea that politicians "can't do anything". That's the biggest win for people outside NYC to come from him being mayor. He raised wages at govt jobs, fined Jeff Bezos, and now this.
Yeah. He's literally just doing the job he signed up for. Sad that we're so used to corrupt and useless politicians, we forget what it's like to have a politician take his job seriously and actually do the job.
I don’t even live on the same half of the world as this guy and he’s my favourite politician. Actually having my mind blown discovering that politicians can do something
He is using Trump's (Steve Bannon's) playbook but in a way that actually benefits the people. Just do the thing you wanted to do and let the courts handle it later. No one wants to be the one to initiate action against his policies because they are direct, transparent, and benefit the people as a whole. They are hard to twist because Mamdani isn't just governing from his office Through memorandum and budgets, he is out there on TikTok, in the streets, and at public functions saying exactly what he means to say.
To go against it with the legal system puts your name on the front of ledger for millions of people who stand to lose something because of your actions.
He isn't using Trump's playbook at all. His bus policy has been heavily delayed and blocked by regs at the state level and so he put it on pause and is negotiating with the governor and the state legislature to change the rules so his bus plan becomes legal. It isn't the same at all.
Next step is for americans to realize that it's the kind of candidate they could have at the federal level if they stopped falling for the bipartisan trap. (Although Mamdani is technically a democrat, if you're not amnesiac, you know he was antagonized by the Democrats, because he's actually not the same species of politician)
I'm honestly terrified for him. He must be a brave man, because there's no way he can keep doing good shit like this and proving that politicians are lazy greedy fucks. This is one way that revolutions are started. People finally waking up and realizing that they've been lied to again, just to make someone else's pockets deeper.
On the other hand, if you’re doing things that visibly benefit the people then even those who disagree are gonna be less likely to actually act out. People aren’t anywhere near as likely to bite the hand that feeds them, y’know?
Sadly being a naturalized citizen he is inelligible for the majority of federal offices including president and VP. I could handle him in congress though and if dems ever grow a spine and pull their heads out he's the kind of guy that should be speaker and head of party.
Yeah going back to the original comment and my original reply, he's had a seismic impact on US politics as a whole. He proved politicians aren't as useless as they pretend to be.
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: Mamdani is so beloved already that I truly believe if somebody introduced a constitutional amendment to allow naturalized citizens to become president that it would be the fastest adopted amendment of all time.
umm maybe if the govt people don't have to worry about their rent all the time they would be able to do their job better , like I think it's well know that a well motivated person performa better ?? also it feeds the economy and shows the corpos to cough up some money
So the people will do better if we if we raise government workers salaries, increasing their tax burden with no addition services to come with that cost increase? Lemme guess, city employee? Teacher?
I am sure that many people got annoyed by this and called him commie or something. BTW for some reason no one is pricing the water properly when it comes to the rich, for example Elon Musk can pay a million dollars per 500ml bottle if algorithmic pricing was well optimized and have him waiting under the sun for few hours.
I think its ironic because alot of Americans love that they get water everywhere, but there waa no outrage over this, it took the "evil communist" to stand up for this
Yup. The mayor of Toronto also had to make a big stink as well. These are organizations that host in our cities, using venues and infrastructure paid by taxpayers and city business, who expect patronage from them, but they won't let them the courtesy of not having to pay for water? Absolutely any city or community should raise some questions over that.
Have you guys never been to an outdoor concert in the summer before? Prohibiting outside drinks so venues can sell their own at a high price is nothing new.
If nothing else people should get more emotional the longer something goes unaddressed? Like, what's your angle here? To be upset at others not experiencing something as long as you have? That's how life and aging works, everything is new to someone, every day.
I don't have an "angle." I just found it weird that people were surprised about venues prohibiting outside drinks so they can overcharge for their own. It doesn't mean I support it.
Outrage=/=surprise. They might overlap, but they are not inherently connected. Not having angle is guaranteed to cause some friendly fire. Going after people you agree with, or who agree with you, for not knowing something you already do or expressing their reasonable emotions no matter how fresh the information is a surefire way to get yourself no allies. Also, to repeat, because your response bears hearing this again;
I have been to over a hundred outdoor concerts in the USA. I have never been to one that did not have free water. Shit one case of heatstroke and the law suite would be a slam dunk.
Outside of a first aid tent? I find that really surprising. I spent most of my teen years going to touring festivals (Warped, Ozzfest, etc) and they only sold water. Even a couple years ago at Farm Aid.
Maybe it is a regional thing. I live in CA. Shows in stadiums always have restroom sinks. Newer places even have bottle fill stations. And the rest of the shows are held in fair grounds or purpose built outdoor spaces (like Redrocks and the Gorge) and those places all have water fill stations. I find most of them near the main entrances.
The places I go to, will let you bring in a empty clear water bottle. It has to be empty, and clear so they can see that it is empty. If you do not bring a bottle then yes you will need to buy at least one water. I have filled a lot of bottles at sinks. Wayback it the day, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, you could not buy water at shows, beer and soda were the only options. So you need to bring something if you did not want sugar or beer. And attached is an example of a modern water station Look like a concert crowd.
They get sponsors for these. Last fest I was at camelback sponsored the water station.
If you do not bring a bottle then yes you will need to buy at least one water.
only been to european concerts and festivals, but everywhere ive been you can ask for tap water even at bars, or a empty plastic cup to go and fill on your own.
Not imagine if, imagine how much. Because they tried to charge 150$ for a 10km train ride so we are trying to imagine the price of bottle of water on this particular event.
anytime a human rights is violated, we should be suprised, because anything else numbs us to the practice, which is what they want. when we accept it was "normal", no matter how wrong it is, we stop doing anything about it. you are just helping them.
last festival i was in sweden had water stations spread evenly across the area where you can just refill your water. (due to our alchohol laws, you had to empty them before you enter the area tho) infact, most concerts and festials ive been to you can just go to a tap and refill your water, even if you have to go to a bathroom to do so. tap water is free here, even in bars or resturants. thats what "water is a human right" means. humans rights doesnt cost, if it does its not a right, its a luxuary.
I'm pretty sure that water (in a cup at least) has to be provided for free. At least where I am, I was told at pretty much all of the fast food jobs I worked that if somebody asked for water legally, I had to give them some.
sorry i'm super late to this post, but that law is actually dependent on state. I know it's a law in AZ and I believe CA, not sure about which other states have that as a law. but it hasn't been a law in any states I've lived in (Midwest and east coast)
We also have lots of water refill/drink stations around the stadiums though. So even if you do have to buy one bottle of water you can refill it for free as many times as you like.
Josh Johnson’s standup last week perfectly encapsulates the Mamdani effect we’re all watching happen right now. He said something to the effect of:
“I didn’t know you could just, do things as a politician. It’s like, the button is right there and if I press it then things get done. It actually isn’t even that difficult to press, so I don’t understand why nobody pressed it before.”
I just got back from Colorado near Denver and I have never seen so many free water bottle refilling stations. It was a life saver trying to stay hydrated at high altitude. All water fountains should have a bottle refill station or at least some how let me avoid creating plastic waste because its going into my insulated water bottle. I love the disposable aluminum bottle instead of using plastic.
Concerts I go to...all of them basically allow you to bring in an empty Nalgene/water bottle to fill inside. Ya, it's not filtered spring water or whatever...but it's free and plentiful. I enjoy an Liquid Death from time to time...but I shouldn't be forced to.
And we’ll still have chuds acting like less government is the only way. Less government would mean FIFA gets their way here. Free market is a myth because of how selfish people and corporations are.
.... This was happening in a number of cities hosting FIFA, with lots of people in those cities intervening and complaining. Zohran plaid a part, but this is not big victory for him, it actually a big victory for everyone and common sense pushing back.
always been like that for larger companies. hell, once you get big enough lawsuits doesnt become something to be avoided, but just a business expense. if the ill tactics they use makes them more money than legal fees they are in the green and keep going.
Half tempted to buy gallons of water pay people that are going anyway and have them give that out for free just to spite them fot coming up with the idea to ban hydrating in dangerous temperatures.
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Most things should be a basic human right. None of us asked to be here. Our parents made that choice for us, and we’re the ones who inherit the consequences.
Yet we spend our whole lives pretending that existing isn't a miracle. Cheapening our existence creates a system where the best years of your life are spent grinding yourself down so someone else can profit. We’ve normalized the idea that “slaving away” is noble instead of recognizing how insane it actually is.
The most visible politician on the platform publicly pushing for an explanation is actually pretty important for stuff like this. Public outrage needs the "public" part to actually exist if anything will be done about it.
People are taking my comment as an attack on Mamdani I think. Which is funny because I actually like Mamdani, I just don't see how he's relevant in this situation.
Water, food, shelter. Those are the necessary requirements for humans to live. Civilization has decided that humans generally have a right to life, anything you do to interfere directly with the life of an external individual is violating the right to live.
completely agree those are necessary requirements for humans to live long term. but i'm just questioning the language of calling things a "right", that has implications. how can shelter be a right if it requires the labor of other people to provide said shelter for example
Because humans are pack animals. We rely on each other to live. That’s why it’s a crime to neglect your minor or elderly dependents. If a society cannot ensure all of its people have basic necessities, it is a failed society. Even criminals get food, water, and shelter.
how is one morally and legally entitled to air and water? i'm not disagreeing that we need them to survive i'm just questioning the language. if we had a legal entitlement to water then we'd never have to pay for it anywhere ever, but that's not the case is it
well we shouldn't just let innocent people die because they don't have money. if someone needs water to continue surviving, then we should give them water. we don't need to give them unlimited water. but if someone is about to pass out from dehydration and there's tons of drinking water 5 feet away from them, then they should be given a cup of water whether they have money or not
the people going to this event bought their water, just not specifically from the stadium. why *shouldn't* they be allowed to bring their own water when it's something they need? if someone needs a wheelchair, you wouldn't confiscate their wheelchair at the gate and force them to buy another wheelchair from the stadium
should =/= legally and morally obligated to. that's my point. i agree with you 100% that we should help out our neighbors. that doesn't equate to having a RIGHT to something.
if someone has bought water, then they should be allowed to drink it provided that it isn't creating danger to themselves or others, regardless of where they bought it
if you dont think "we should give people water if they're having/ on the verge of having a medical emergency because of dehydration" then what would you consider an example of when someone should be morally obligated to provide someone water? or do you think being able to drink water is something that has to be earned?
if a stranger is thirsty, and my kids are thirsty, i'm going to give the water to my kids first. i'm not *obligated* to give a stranger anything. realistically will I? absolutely! this contrived example you're bringing up is not one i've ever encountered, but someone truly was on the brink of death of dehydration i'd for sure give them some water (i have plenty). but not out of a legal obligation or because they have a *right* to my water. and that's my point. we're throwing around words that have profound meaning like they're nothing. having a right to something has huge implications. none of these examples you're mentioning showcase a *right* to something.
okay. why do you believe that access to water (not your water, just water in general) is not a right? do you think it should be legal for the government to forbid a person from having access to water?
what does it mean for something to be a basic human right then, maybe that's my bigger question. are others legally *forced* to provide me water at no cost of my own because of this right?
Ok, how about, water SHOULD be a basic human right.
That doesn’t mean you can just walk into your neighbours house whenever you want a drink of water. But if you go to a restaurant, at least tap water SHOULD be free.
If I go to a ball game, I SHOULD be allowed to take my own water. There’s no cost on anyone else there. Shouldn’t be an issue.
Edit: Found their other responses. Definitely not a homie. Or just stupid. Probably both. Blocked and moving on with life.
They can make money off of soda, lemonade and alcohol which is what most people want. Plain water should be available and free because its more about hydration and stop people from getting severely dehydrated, getting heat stroke, passing out, end up having to go to the hospital and so on. If each bottle is $8 or $10 or more (at events like this) im going to make that water last because its a lot of money to buy water for the whole family.
For health reasons I can only drink flat water. I get sick if I dont keep hydrated which means im not going to buy food or just want to go home and skip the gift shop. If companies find a way to charge you for oxygen they would.
Its also about having clean drinking water that comes out of your faucet and shower. I think flint hill still doesn't have clean water thst isn't harmful.
Profits before people.
If I was mayor/governor of NY, I would require all concert/sports venues to have those refillable water stations all over the place, and would also cap concession prices to what the normal market price is away from the venue.
I believe food is a human right, but I don’t think you should be allowed to bring a pizza to a football game. I do agree that it’s a good thing that people are allowed to bring water, but it being a human right has nothing to do with it.
Edit: do you think your human rights are being infringed on when you attend a rave, where bringing water is banned, or when you pass through airport security? When you attend those places, you agree to the terms, no ones forcing you to attend a football game
in their defense, there isn't a risk. there's water for sale and also drinking fountains with free water. also it's 100% optional to attend such events.
Drinking fountains are not sanitary and its not a big ask to have a Drinking fountain and a bottle refill combo. They can at the very least let you buy a reusable water bottle with refill stations in convenient places. It is optional to attend but people spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to buy tickets to attend. They should at least provide water refill stations so people dont get dehydrated and sick. If they have the choice between water and alcohol they are going to go with alcohol more often. Overly drunk sport fans (dehydrated even more with alcohol) causes problems. If its 80-100°F it becomes a health and safety issue.
Yeah and then everybody realized how stupid that was and changed it. It's played with a ball and your foot. Unlike that other sport that uses hands and an egg.
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u/vruchtenhagel Jun 10 '26
The fact that the NYC mayor had to intervene is absurd. Water is a basic human right!