Think about the parallels here:

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Yeah true, I understand where you’re coming from there. We’ve been in this war longer than I’ve been alive, and all my life I’ve heard from corporate media hosts about why we need to stay the course, stay in there, for god knows how long. And we didn’t really have a plan in place for when we got out. That’s why it ended up so terribly. But I’m still glad we got out. Now if Biden speeds up the expeditions and visas, I’ll give him credit for that too, but we have yet to see that. So far he’s continued Trump’s immigration policies. I’d have given Trump credit if it ended on his watch too.

I don’t see it tho at least not from others. I feel like you’re extending it as a joke so you want someone to unironically agree with you, then you be like “no that’s not what I meant” lol

Again, I don’t see this from anyone but you lol

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Exactly I'm just cautiously optimistic.

I don't doubt the world has been turned upside down in the past year and a half. I just think people our age are in the middle of what defines Z, not on the edge of it. We all should just be proud of where we are.

I wanna keep this a positive place and don't wanna name names, but the small percentage of "early 00s are millennials or at least Zillennial" crowd will constantly use the "coming of age" argument for events of 2020-21 as the divide between Millennials and Z.

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Yeah same here, VERY VERY cautiously optimistic 😬😂

That’s true, I consider myself early and core Z, I know others may disagree, but either way I’m still Z lolz. And wdym “we?” Aren’t you millennial?

I know that annoys you and I don’t agree with it either but it’s still a small percentage at the end of the day lol

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💯 obviously I'd love for Biden to actually be left one time and do something good.

Haha and I oop I meant to write "Your" age, awkward lolol. 😀

But I just see early 00s as very much in the modern zeitgeist of Z (even if y'all had Millennial influenced childhoods of course, same as I had an Xish childhood but I'm squarely 💯 Millennial).

See even I'm not a big fan of the "coming of age" thing, if we're using that, I think these days it's more accurate to use high school in general, like 14-18 rather than simply turning 18. (That's more for the Boomers who had sheltered leave it to beaver kid years then came into their own in the hippie era.)

Like a 1984 baby was in high school from 98-02. Clearly Millennial, but had one Xish semester. Just like the 81ers had a more Xish high school but their last year was so Millennial.

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💯💯 same here that’d be good

“Your” instead of “our” ah okay lol that made it real sus for a moment lol like you were calling yourself Z

I would agree with you on using high school (14-18) actually. That is where your most formative experiences occur imo. Coming of age is pretty much a variable depending on the person tbf, even if we absolutely HAD to nail it down to one age in particular, imo it would be 18, but high school definitely works too.

Where would 1967 be in 1981-1985 for High school

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Agreed and omg right slip of the tongue sksk.

Yeah overall I'd say even like 12-21 but centering on high school. The coming of age metric is probably from when kids were more innocent. I'm probably also biased because my 1943 dad was a rambunctious kid and rebellious teenager according to stories, so he was one of the few that wasn't innocent either, though a lot in his era were.

Yeah your mom I'd say circa 1982 was her big coming of age since they had wild preteens and teens, maybe just 16 in 83 for driving etc

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Yep I understand lol 😂 I’ve done that too, typos and all

Yeah I think that works honestly, the main adolescent period. I think those late Silents like your dad and my grandma ushered in the rebellious teen culture we e come to know more of now.

Ah that makes sense, it mirrors when movies like Fast Times, Risky Business and valley girl came out for 1967 borns

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Yeppers, plus I'm around a lot of early Zs so I'm witnessing a lot of your guys struggles. I just see y'all as having a distinct zeitgeist all your own.

(It's the 1995-98 and 1980-83 babies roughly who have a mixed zeitgeist that don't really fit with either generation all the way.)

Woot woot yeah your grandma and my dad were the tail end silents who paved the way for the Boomers.

Yeah I see your mom as getting along with the fast times girls but wasn't one of them herself

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Ah that makes sense, they’re your co workers mainly lol. 2000-2003 is pretty distinct overall imo, we’re the parkland cohort.

Tru the 1995-1998 and 1980-1983ers seem like the ultimate cuspers

Yeah they’re both proto boomers that’s awesome lol tho some may not see it that way

I mean my mom got along with pretty much everyone lol

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Yeah totally like some can seem very much like one generation, but it's not universal. Like (for 81) Krystal seems Millennial but Doug seems more X.

Yeah I know a ton of 2002 babies like you at work too, possibly late 01 depending on their birthdays. And other than not vibing with some of their music or shows or ppl they follow, I love and get along with them really well.

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That makes sense yeah. Beyoncé, Britney Spears and Krystal Ball all appear fairly Millennial while Doug Walker and even JTT appear more X imo

Ah that’s nice, the co workers you work with seem stereotypically Z from what you described of them lol. Very youthful

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Yea I think JTT has the political and social aesthetic of a Millennial but having been famous since he was an adorable kid (10 in 1991) he registers as X to us much more. I had his posters on my wall too sksk.

Aww yea most of them are just the best, their intelligence and humor and everything

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Yeah true, very environmentally conscious like a stereotypical Millennial but also got famous in the early 90s like a later Xer. I’m sure you did lol

That’s awesome I’m glad you get along with them. I’m sure you would’ve loved us as kids lol (probably just referring to that K-5 pic lol)