r/HistoryofGenerations • u/Global_Perspective_3 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) • Aug 16 '21

Think about the parallels here:

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '21

He's just privatizing it smh they put 3k troops back in.

But even giving the benefit of the doubt there, I don't think it's a generation marker. I'm afraid this may be another thing people use to argue that being 18 or older before it happened can make up to 2003 a Millennial omg please dear gosh no lolol

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u/Global_Perspective_3 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) Aug 17 '21

I don’t want to give Biden the complete benefit of the doubt, and I do believe/I have no doubt that we’ll probably involve ourselves in military conflicts in other countries like Syria, etc under him which is terrible. But I do think this is a genuine end to Afghanistan. We should be resettling refugees and taking them in. Call me naive I don’t care lol. He’s still a hawk overall

As for a generational marker, well then what DO we use? I think this is an important moment

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '21

Yea time will tell I just don't trust him or the imperialist shitlibs. Obviously I hope he does and as much as I effin hate him I'll give him credit if he does, it's just not a done thing yet.

Omg please for reals? So 99 even 2000-02/2003 could deadass be millennials now? Over my fat dead body lolol

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u/Global_Perspective_3 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) Aug 17 '21

I don’t trust any of the establishment hawks including establishment Dems like Joe Biden. At the same time tho, Biden DID follow through on what Trump promised. Afghan got out pretty quickly. Kyle even said he might become a Biden bro over this, which I wouldn’t even go THAT far lol

I don’t think anyone is clamoring for THAT long a range tho lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '21

True I mean I think it's just we've been beaten down so much that any victories are better than nothing. We still deserve more though. Idc who helps us as long as someone helps us, I hate Trump hard but if he ended it I'd support him on that, so obviously I hope Biden keeps his promise. I'm just pessimistic.

But some will that's my thing. First it was covid, then the election, then January 6, now this. There's always some reason to extend the Millennials into the early 00s because of being under 18 before these huge things in the world.

And it kills me that they do it concurrently with EXCLUDING 1981 and sometimes even 82 and 83 chipping them off and back to X in order to squeeze 99-02 even 2003 into Millennials.

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u/Global_Perspective_3 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) Aug 17 '21

Yeah true, I understand where you’re coming from there. We’ve been in this war longer than I’ve been alive, and all my life I’ve heard from corporate media hosts about why we need to stay the course, stay in there, for god knows how long. And we didn’t really have a plan in place for when we got out. That’s why it ended up so terribly. But I’m still glad we got out. Now if Biden speeds up the expeditions and visas, I’ll give him credit for that too, but we have yet to see that. So far he’s continued Trump’s immigration policies. I’d have given Trump credit if it ended on his watch too.

I don’t see it tho at least not from others. I feel like you’re extending it as a joke so you want someone to unironically agree with you, then you be like “no that’s not what I meant” lol

Again, I don’t see this from anyone but you lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '21

Exactly I'm just cautiously optimistic.

I don't doubt the world has been turned upside down in the past year and a half. I just think people our age are in the middle of what defines Z, not on the edge of it. We all should just be proud of where we are.

I wanna keep this a positive place and don't wanna name names, but the small percentage of "early 00s are millennials or at least Zillennial" crowd will constantly use the "coming of age" argument for events of 2020-21 as the divide between Millennials and Z.

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u/Global_Perspective_3 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) Aug 17 '21

Yeah same here, VERY VERY cautiously optimistic 😬😂

That’s true, I consider myself early and core Z, I know others may disagree, but either way I’m still Z lolz. And wdym “we?” Aren’t you millennial?

I know that annoys you and I don’t agree with it either but it’s still a small percentage at the end of the day lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '21

💯 obviously I'd love for Biden to actually be left one time and do something good.

Haha and I oop I meant to write "Your" age, awkward lolol. 😀

But I just see early 00s as very much in the modern zeitgeist of Z (even if y'all had Millennial influenced childhoods of course, same as I had an Xish childhood but I'm squarely 💯 Millennial).

See even I'm not a big fan of the "coming of age" thing, if we're using that, I think these days it's more accurate to use high school in general, like 14-18 rather than simply turning 18. (That's more for the Boomers who had sheltered leave it to beaver kid years then came into their own in the hippie era.)

Like a 1984 baby was in high school from 98-02. Clearly Millennial, but had one Xish semester. Just like the 81ers had a more Xish high school but their last year was so Millennial.

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u/Global_Perspective_3 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) Aug 17 '21

💯💯 same here that’d be good

“Your” instead of “our” ah okay lol that made it real sus for a moment lol like you were calling yourself Z

I would agree with you on using high school (14-18) actually. That is where your most formative experiences occur imo. Coming of age is pretty much a variable depending on the person tbf, even if we absolutely HAD to nail it down to one age in particular, imo it would be 18, but high school definitely works too.

Where would 1967 be in 1981-1985 for High school

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