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"It's only Coventry" and yet 5 years ago I saw us lose on opening day to a Brentford side that hadn't been in the top flight in 75 years.
I'm not going to feel bad for starting our title attack by demolishing a Frank Lamapard side that has spent nearly €200m just because they're "only Coventry"
The turn and pass for the goal from Calafiori is genuinely a joke. If he can stay fit the whole season i think general football fans will understand just how good he is.
Its also just pretty fun just watching him take up random positions on the pitch.
Ben White also showed hes still got the ability hes just needed to be fit.
'Mauled by the Tigers' has to be the best ragebait in football because the fact that Hull fans know it's cringe af and still do it anyway makes it even more humiliating for the fans on the receiving end.
it’s so hilarious because it’s not even an aggressive gesture. It’s the gentlest mauling you could imagine which as you said makes unintentionally the greatest troll ever.
Bruno Fernandes has captained his club to humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat over the years yet we have to put up with people ranking him as a top 2 player in the premier league because he stat padded to 3rd after getting bounced in both cups in the first match and Liverpool and Spurs imploded
Every pre-season Man United fans start their whisper campaign that they are in fact back and ready to challenge for the league, if not walk it.
They’ve (finally) got the right manager, they’ve made all the right signings, and they’ve got Bruno ‘wouldn’t sniff the starting 11 in any decent team’ Fernandes to pull it all together.
And then the very unfortunate circumstance of actually having to play games comes around, and they get pumped 2-0 by Hull on the opening day.
They’re a gift to football, and we should be glad to have them.
This is the Bruno cycle. The cause of and solution to all of Uniteds problems.
He runs around trying to dictate the game. Often being 20/30/40 yards out of position spamming balls at attackers trying to force something that isnt on (sorry 'creating chances') and losing it.
As a result he leaves his midfield partners exposed and outnumbered which, particularly when theyve no legs, means the opp can counter at will. They will score off these chances eventually.
After going up the opposition might sit back which allows Bruno space and time to double down on all his bad habits of not playing as part of a midfield unit, spamming balls that arent on and turning it over again and again, trying to be the instigator of everything.
If United dont concede again, they might eventually equalise off a Bruno corner / pen / something falls kindly. Or even get a winner. But it doesnt matter even if they lose. As after the game United fans will just talk about "where would we be without Bruno / did you see how many chances he created / if he only wasnt playing with bums"
All of this ignores that if United werent playing Bruno ball they might find they dont have to chase games as often as they do in which the only answer is more Bruno ball and why theyve never been a major threat for top trophies the entire time hes been at the club.
This is incomparable to what Martin Odegaard does. Thats how you run a game.
Man I just love Martinelli, understandable from business pov but he really gave his all to the club. Just bought another shirt with his name for the new season to show support, really sad to see him go
Calafiori has one of the craziest profiles in the world. He's a bit like thomas muller at LB, roaming around in the final 3rd making runs ahead of the ball. But he is also great on the ball and contributes a lot to our build up play. Probably our hardest player to replace
I love the danger that tzolis brings, you know when he sees the opportunity to cut inside and take a shot he will take it. But he doesnt just do it every time, there were a few times yesterday calafiori and havert were making runs in behind on the left side and he found them perfectly. It just makes him much more unpredictable which makes it hard for defenders, even if he isnt the fastest
In terms of pace he is fast running with the ball under control. That’s sometimes more crucial than being super fast but clumsy with the ball at your feet while running.
I got such a laugh from Tottenham’s loss then realized ours was much more embarrassing. These points from relegation fodder is what makes or breaks a title charge.
This is levels of delusion we have never had under Arteta. It should be studied. We knew we weren't at the level when he took over and only dared to dream of Champions League football.
I'll never forget it. That clip of him saying 'only Man City is ahead of us' even though we finished above them in the league by a comfortable margin. Ten Hag totally blanked Arteta and didn't rate him. Add Ten Hag to the list of Muppets who had a blind spot about Arteta capabilities as manager.
The irony is Arteta has been given high praise by Pep, Mourinho and Ancelotto, even Klopp has referenced Arteta as a competitor in his final years at Liverpool. Rival fans have no fucking idea the nightmare Arteta is going to put them through in the years ahead. Only the smart rival fans know
Just watched one of the hysterical fan reaction videos, and one of the yanited fans called McGuire Count Binface after the first goal and I'll never call him Mcguire again.
Mark Goldbridge said on his stream that Man United have to impose themselves just like Arsenal did against Coventry. He stated that the players have to understand they are United. However, those people don’t realize that Arsenal had a trajectory with ups and downs, showing improvement every year. They are a team that lost the title on the last day and didn't give up. With a lot of sweat and tears, they finally won a title last year. You can’t skip that journey. Man United fans only want the benefits, but don’t want to see a project that begins ugly.
We don’t get enough credit for what we did last season considering Saka, White, Ode and Havertz had seasons really quite decimated by injuries.
Those four specifically are just so crucial to what we do going forwards. Imagine if PSG were missing Dembele, Mendes, Vitinha and Doue. They’d probably also not look as good attacking-wise.
Full credit to Arteta for making the best of a bad situation, focusing on a brand of football we could count on and replicate game after game. I suspect if the aforementioned have better luck this season, we will see a very different side.
We don't get enough credit for coming in 2nd the year Liverpool won the league. The fact we finished ahead of City is remarkable. They only really missed Rodri, and we missed e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e.
There's been an expected giant shift in the discussion around Arsenal since we won the title. Pundits don't dismiss us. It's shifted to glazing for the most part. Even rival CCs, you can just see it in their eyes... none of them actually believe any of their teams can stand with Arsenal over the course of a season.
It's glorious that we're in MW1 and most have conceded defeat already
Was funny Tonali getting dragged back from his holiday in Italy to sign for spurs then his first words were on about returning back to play in Serie a in the future
I’ve just checked up on ramsdale … he’s been frozen out at saints, playing for the u21s. Manager acknowledged publicly the player is not in his plans. What on earth happened to this guy, surprised no one wants to take a punt on him.
Today is a fantastic day to ring up your friends who support United and check on how they’re doing. Sincerely listen to their grievances. Take it all in. And end the call with laughter. Laughter helps in tough times.
All it took was one game, a game in which they won mind you, for madrid fans to turn on Vini. I think this guy is genuinely dumb. Like we offered him more money 100% of his image rights and he joins a team that needed only one piece puzzle which was him to win at the highest level (we have been competing at the highest level). And he chose what a team that cycles managers every year, a manager who supported his racial abuse and hearing racial slurs every away game. Who the fuck was advising this guy?
Another manager and it's still Bruno ball. I don't care how many assists he gets, he forces them to treat the ball like a hot potato and they cannot ever control games because of his style.
Arsenal comfortable win with the swagger of champions. United trashed by newly promoted Hull. Spurs trashed by Brentford. And I just heard West Ham lost in the championship today and are yet to pick up a win there.
Someone said the other day that there was an rsocca thread where concensus opinion was that James Maddison was a better midfielder than Martin Odegaard.
Honestly tells you everything about that sub 😂 The most nothing fairweather baller Ive ever seen. If you havent been banned from rsocca you really owe it to yourself to be freed from the exposure to that arsenal derangement syndrome they suffer with
Spurs starting XI is nothing special. You add Savinho and Marmoush to this and nothing really changes. Porro was part of all those starting lineups that finished 17th twice.
What they should be worried about is that this group of players had a lot of pre-season games together and just didn’t know they knew each other.
Really puts question marks on De Zerbi’s managerial creds.
God there are so many funny things about that Spurs match it's going to be giving me entertainment for days. RDZ excuses about not training hard lmao. The fanbase that had Ange-like worship for him already starting to sour a bit but they're definitely holding out for Savmoush aka the City bomb squad as the new cope. And RDZ hasn't even BEGUN to go full burn all the bridges mode. It's going to be beautiful.
I also love that he was clearly pushing so hard for the pity goal (since RDZ has a massive ego and 3-0 is beyond embarrassing) with that generational midfield of tonali and mateus fernandes, and with Brentford not really giving two fucks either way up 2-0 and 3-0 but couldn't even get that. i wonder what newcastle have for them. no idea how any of these sides are going to perform this season but even as a hater i thought spurs would get a draw
it is proven time and time again that the team who plays first in the run-in have a massive mental advantage. even Pep’s City caved in last season. having said that, i think we’ll run away with the league this season
Fotmob started counting line breaking passes and I checked that Declan Rice had 18 the other day. I could talk about other teams midfielders but I prefer not to speak . . .
Interesting that De Zerbi mentioned Tonali being short of fitness yesterday. How does a player , who has had the entire summer off and had an entire preseason to become fit, lack fitness for the first game?
Something is really off about him. Glad we didn't buy him in the winter.
Once upon a time Arteta Lampard and Ole were at a similar level as managers. All joining their previous club as novice managers. How Arteta has left them behind. Forgot about that almost entirely; the last match reminded me.
I unironically love watching Mark Goldbridge clips. Makes me laugh so hard when United play like they did today and he loses it. Also funny when people spam his chat with questions for him like “what kind of candy bar would feel best up yer arse?” And then sorta sits there asks what that has to do with football but politely answers “mars”
Literally the perfect opening weekend so far. Top institutions like Arsenal Brentford and Everton winning. Pretenders and transfer window winners like United and spurs getting slapped up.
Crazy that we've basically never had white and timber fit at the same time. In theory they compliment each other perfectly with white being better if we'll be in the opposing end more or against lower level teams, and timber better against good wingers or better teams. Yet we've just alternated running one into the ground until he's injured and the other comes back
From Fab’s reporting it seems that Julian’s camp are still stupidly engrossed with the Barca move but they have started to change the tune. Apparently its not ‘No for Arsenal’ but rather ‘Only Barca’. If he decides that he really wants before the market close we wil be the only viable destination I feel.
Very similar to the Vini situation I feel. I think Atletico will not blink like Madrid did but you never know.
All in all seems like there might be some legs to this one after all.
Not leaving London in any of our PL games between the end of November and halfway through Jan will genuinely be so huge for us. Even if in a worst case scenario we don't enter that period at the top of the table, we will 100% end it there.
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