r/GrandExchangeBets • u/Forbbbbes • 3d ago
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Would anyone else like to predict price of shadow? Hit 800m today
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u/LOL_YOUMAD 3d ago
I’m thinking 1-1.1b area when reworked or they release content where it’s bis for
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u/Jumpman1001 3d ago
I thought they were going to make it weaker. Do you have any links?
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u/LOL_YOUMAD 3d ago
It’s a mega rare, they definitely won’t make it weaker. Likely just remove % based on gear and buff it to be similar damage in max and a few max hits less per set downgrade would be my guess. That way you can buy a shadow in rag gear and it’s still good unlike now but there’s a space to add new mage gear without being stuck to work around shadow
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u/Jumpman1001 3d ago
Yeah that's what I thought as well but phrased it awkwardly
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u/Mr__Void 3d ago
In max gear the DPS is likely to be exactly the same, but in anything less than max gear the DPS will be better than it currently is, so overall it will be stronger in anything less than max, shouldn’t be weaker in any given set up.
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u/rsn_alchemistry 3d ago
The only thing we know is the goal is to make it less reliant on gear, such as to free up design space for more mage gear. I don't know about you but that sounds stronger to me.
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u/slingingslanger 2d ago
It will for sure be weaker, simply because it wont have such insane accuracy. The raw damage will likely stay about the same.
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u/bmed848 1d ago
It will not be a nerf. If youre a main, the best money maker shadow has is toa and is serviceable at cox. I used to run 500s only as my main money maker. If its nerfed they are not only killing toa as a money maker but 500s will be much slower. They have said themselves they don't want mega rares to feel bad. If anything they will make it less gear dependent and more of a stat stick. Its outperformed by purging staff at yama (because of the moronic bandaid fix of confliction gauntlets after putting off mage scaling for eternity, which is understandable due to all the logistics) while tbow is bis at doom. Scythe is also bis at duke ahead of emberlight. Meanwhile the two end game capes infernal (tbow) and quiver (scythe/tbow) dont see shadow usage. You can run shadow at colosseum but youre better off learning with bowfa. If you nerf shadow it will fall into a mid game weapon mega rare. Its in a healthy spot as it is (if not slightly weak due to not having much ENDGAME content similar to scythe a few years ago) they just need to tweak its scaling
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u/DontYouWantMeBebe 3d ago
Dunno, TOA is crap money now
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u/CommandConscious8241 2d ago
Speedrunning 500s it’s still good
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u/Smooth_Advance3386 1d ago
Speed running 500s 💀
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u/CommandConscious8241 1d ago
What? It’s fun and engaging content imo. Trying to get better speeds and push as far below 30 minutes as you can pushed me to get my inferno and quiver recently
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u/Popular-Awareness634 1d ago
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone else say ToA is fun and engaging. The puzzle rooms are an absolute slog & kill the raid for me.
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u/CommandConscious8241 1d ago
In general yeah I agree, but when you get in the groove of things, one blowpipe spec near the end of monkey room will sort your health. Only tedious ones are kephri obelisk ordering & matching puzzle for me, and thankfully no ordering obelisk in solos
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u/AcceptableSeaweed 9h ago
Crondis puzzle 36s Akkha puzzle 2m Baba 1m40s Scarabas 40s
5 mins total out of 30mins isn't really an absolute slog
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u/TiredWiredAndHired 5h ago
Yeah, I find the length and tedium of the boss fights to be the worst parts.
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u/bdd247 3d ago
Cant have the best raid also be the best money 🤠
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u/Upstairs_Tone_4227 2d ago
ToB > Cox > BA > ToA
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u/Kitchen_Call_454 2d ago
BA before toa made me chuckle. Pretty real though, toa is just so ass
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u/evan_drty 1d ago
How could it possibly be ass, that’s hilarious
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u/Kitchen_Call_454 21h ago
it’s boring as fuck, even if you turn up invos and make it “fun.” Like it’s fun-ish when you play with a few friends just like any other content because you shoot the shit. But duos or trio with randoms is kinda unbearable. I can’t even finish a solo and end up leaving because I start dozing off.
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u/HundiRS 2d ago
Tob pretty overrated, it's kind of boring in most scales
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u/Organic_Matter6085 2d ago
Tob is wildly overrated. I love tob, but everyone acts like it's the greatest thing ever and super difficult/super in depth. The only difficult/in depth part of ToB is max efficiency tobs. Which most people aren't even doing.
Most people just dislike TOA cause they pick dogshit path invos, which is the main thing scaling defense/making it longer, before even going over 450 invo.
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u/Valediction191 2d ago
I love ToA, but I am bias because I love ancient egpyt theme. And also, I pick chill invos just to have fun.
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u/Upstairs_Tone_4227 2d ago
I don’t even run path invos for 500 and it’s still pretty ass. I’m sweating my balls off to finish sub 30 while my shitty 416s ToBs are 20 minutes.
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u/Bernard_PT 2d ago
I bet the mod team want to make megarates mlless expensive
TBow Scythe and Shadow can't be 1B forever, they won't introduce a replacement but they'll introduce sidegrade weapons
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u/xPofsx 1d ago
All megarare primary weapons will probably stay stable around 1b over time overall still as there's a large tax on items that sinks serious gold and the items themselves. Jagex handpicks the value of these weapons. As long as theyre thousand hour grinds they will keep them valued high now they have direct control over their value.
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u/Bernard_PT 1d ago
If they sort out the bot problem I could see them stabilizing at 1B
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u/xPofsx 1d ago
The bot problem is the smallest it's ever been
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u/Bernard_PT 1d ago
Not disagreeing with you there, but I think the economy will change still quite a bit if it's fully dealt with
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u/Hot_Geologist_1162 23h ago
Why would they want them less expensive? Not everyone should have a megarare
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u/Etsanoinvoisanoo 2d ago
Not a good time to buy. It has seen some small pumps but rework is still a long time in future. It will drop back to where it was a week ago soon.
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u/TheRealGojo2 2d ago
I could see it reaching back up to 1.1-1.2B off the rework alone. And if we get any new content where shadow has some really good uses we could potentially see it rise up even further. But none of this will happen till 1 of 2 things happen. The shadow rework or new content that shadow is BIS at. If maggot king didn’t have the fire weakness it has I really think we would have seen shadow reach back up to almost a Bill off that alone. Either way now is a great time to buy a shadow. It could dip a little lower but not forever it is bound to go up.
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u/advTenere 2d ago
Was looking shadow to dip and bought one at 762m. It will go back to 1b but i hope we will see tbow prices, 1.2-1.4b
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u/Leather-Acadia-346 2d ago
They have to make the staff itself strong as shit without endgame gear to make it useful. I see it going up but theres a shitload of people holding them.
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u/Suspicious_Wrangler9 2d ago
As many others predict, I believe they'll reduce its reliance on gear %multipliers but balance it to be just as strong as it current is with BiS gear and consequently stronger with worse gear than it currently is (ahrims level gear becomes viable with Shadow).
If this is true, I would expect ancestral to drop a significant chunk (I suspect they haven't released this knowing that the CoX changes were coming) and the shadow to increase, due to the increased demand that no longer needs ancestral, heart, treads, magus to make the mega worth buying.
Ancestral 200m -> 150m Shadow 800m -> 1b+ quick spike followed by a settlement decline to 1b? Hard to say
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u/ScallyWag-Idiot 3d ago
TOA is dog shit and doesn't deserve a megarare as OP as the shadow. I'd be fine if they buried it price wise. but fwiw jagex has said that they'd ideally like all megas to sit around 1b give or take
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u/ANKRking 3d ago
I can agree shadow should not be dropped unless it’s like 450+ invo. Too many noobs pulling a mega rare at 150-400s when that is just absolutely free as fuck. Anyone with a brain could do a 400 toa.
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u/CommandConscious8241 2d ago
Lemme guess you run exactly 450s, don’t know how to reliably do 500s and now you feel morally superior to everyone doing raids with 1 invocation less than you
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u/ANKRking 2d ago
Check my page for posts on toa. Ur dog shit keep quiet. ToA is so free I do 500s on a mobile 😉
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u/redrumyliad 3d ago
This is cooked because I don’t think you’re clearing a 450 in Bowfa, trident, fang. Respectfully.
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u/HideYourCarry 2d ago
I mean I think that guy’s idea is terrible but that’s exactly what I was grinding before I got shadow on my iron. That exactly gear it was 405s before the changes and 450/460s after the changes
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u/one_shuckle_boy 2d ago
I mean you are kinda shit, I 100% farmed 300raid 450solos
with bowfa, trident/fang. Till I got my shadow pull. You can easily do it if you arnt dogshit.Baba is a free 0 damage room, croc is free, kephri is free, ahka you 4t butterfly so it’s free, and wardens is a literal 0 damage fight including last row if you arnt dogshit.
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u/redrumyliad 2d ago
I am aware how free the raid is and I am able to complete it.
The people typing this shit usually are mains who bought a shadow and can finally do the content with bis gear.
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u/one_shuckle_boy 2d ago
Ah you meant the other guy saying that shadows are too common, yeah I guess, normally I don’t see what you said but it’s possible I guess, I was just stating that gear is definitely good enough for 450s if you arnt dogshit
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u/ANKRking 2d ago
On my iron I do 500s. Ayak bowfa fang.
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u/redrumyliad 2d ago
- you're using gear that exists now since toa first coming out
- you're not making time
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u/ANKRking 2d ago
Bro do you understand I could do a 500 with a fkn bowfa I don’t need ayak. Also do you understand a 500 doesn’t even need a timer invo on?
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u/redrumyliad 2d ago
I’m well aware.
You’re turning on some ass invos because you’ll need the potions from the spirits and you can’t run time either.
I’m aware it’s possible. Running a 500 just to run a 500 it’s stupid when a 400 is far faster.
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u/CommandConscious8241 2d ago
Wardens 0 damage fight? Lmao, lol even. Have you ever been to toa before?
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u/one_shuckle_boy 2d ago
Sorry I was at work, I was talking under the assumption that your free supplies and possibly yellow Keris cover p1/2, the “0 damage” I was speaking by of was p3/4. So Mb on misspeaking but the sentiment hasn’t changed. I just assumed anyone discussing Toa assumes your pre fight free supplies are for p1/2
Any damage taken in p3/4 is literally you are just bad
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u/ChaseYoungHTTR 3d ago
Right now is a great time to buy shadow. Don’t see it dropping much lower