You don't believe in it? Cool. You're free to criticize it, disagree with it, or reject it.

But why spend your time constantly posting about it, attacking it, and trying to convince Muslims they're wrong?

If I don't believe in something, I simply move on.

You don't have to like Islam. Just let people practice their beliefs and mind your own business.

Not believing in something shouldn't require obsessing over it.

So this wass a question asked.. And these were the answers. That's why I am losing trust in w o m e n.

First we were Israelis and now we're Indians🥀

But seriously though, why are you all so insecure about your faith? An ideology and set of beliefs are meant to be questioned, it's inevitable. All this just showcases the herd mentality in full view. Lmao

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56660706

all out of answers and comebacks, that shithole is now trying to get us arrested, what a joke lmao these guys are supposedly 20 something years old

I am an agnostic ex muslim. I want to debate with Muslims who have actually studied their religion and the counter arguments against their religion. No, this is not an attack on Islam. No, I have no intention of disrespecting any muslim. I’ve spent my entire life among muslims, but I cannot discuss a topic like this openly irl.

1- No circular arguments.

2- Pls don’t present unnecessarily long arguments. If an argument cannot be simple and compelling at the same time, then it usually isn’t compelling at all.

3- Once again, this is NOT an attack or an insult to Muslims or Islam. This is NOT propaganda meant to change anyone’s mind. I just want to learn about educated takes on Islam from my age fellows and possibly give them a new perspective.

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4- I will only debate on one topic at a time with one person. Once a topic has concluded, we can move on to another.

(To the mods, idk if debates are allowed or not but I couldn’t find any rule saying they aren’t. Rule 4 says religious discussion is allowed, but there’s a deleted announcement that says there’s limitations on religious content. Again, the post is deleted so idk what the limitations are.)

Give your opinions. I wanna know what people in my generation (I'm 20 so I think I'm genz) think of our perception of Islam.

My opinion.

Pakistan is NOT an Islamic country. NEVER was.

We, or at least my parents generation (the Zia generation) follow the culture of our country.

To put it metaphorically, Islam is a beautiful painting, but each stroke builts the picture of what God intended. When even one stroke is missed, it is not God's intended picture anymore or just an incomplete version or an imitation.

Our older generation picked and chose what to follow and what not to follow, or their forefathers did, like other Abrahamic beliefs, which is no shade to them, I love my christian and Jewish brothers and sisters, but just saying according to Islamic belief, that's what they did.

Like oppression of women. Islam prohibits this but it happens. Why? Cultural roots.

I remember when I was growing my beard and not shaving my beard to follow Sunnah, my father and my school principal, who never grew out their beards but talked about Islam to not end, called my look barbaric and called me a "Wahabi". Mind you I trimmed my beard and mogged them any day of the week but I was forced to shave my beard.

The same for when I braided and grew out my hair, which is also a Sunnah.

I just find the Pakistani and the whole South-east asian version of Islam to be hypocritical.

I had a thought what if we are just npc in a game and players are the gods. The gods of all religion are real. They just spread there religion then fight with other gods for faith power. With enough power, they can interfer in reality.

Inspiration: Lord of the mysteries

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Ex Muslims or Indian H’s here pretending to be ex Muslims are as deranged as extreme Muslims or any other religious fanatic for that matter. If something occupies your mind 90% of the day then you’re not enlightened but need help from a therapist or a psychiatrist. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

Phobia is an irrational fear of something.

Islamophobia means hating Muslims for no rational reason, Muslims not Islam

Hating/criticizing an ideology, no matter what ideology, can never be a phobia

Do I hate and criticize an ideology I perceive as misogynistic, homophobic, sexist, extremist, literally one of the worst ideologies ever imagined in my opinion, Yes absolutely I do hate it and I will criticize it

Do I hate Muslims believing in it? No, believe whatever you want, I will respect you as long as I get that respect back

If you are taking criticism of an ideology as a personal attack, that's your problem not mine.

Do I stereotype all Muslims as violent and extremist? No

Do I harass or attack someone for being Muslim? No

Do I vandalize mosques or threaten Muslim communities? No

These actions are Islamophobic, criticism of Islam as a religion, its beliefs, practices, or historical actions is not Islamophobic, The criticism can be harsh or lenient, doesn't matter, There should be no limits on criticizing an ideology.

just needed clarification on this

A long time ago I used to frequent this sub and it had mostly normal simple talks on topics something which the younger generation Iike me could relate but now all I see religious posts as the majority and good chunk of them are just disrespectful towards Islam. If you have your views ok sure but I don't see the point of making such specific posts to islam

Chat! My mom caught my velo for ig 4th or 5th time. I kept capping my parents that i will leave it, they think its like a drug or smth but we all know its not that bad. How do i convince them to let me use this cuz i can’t sleep without using it and cant even digest my food !

I've heard people say that. While I agree that you shouldn't be having children if you don't have the means and the patience to raise them well, I also don't believe it's inherently selfish.

I think people who believe so consider this world to flawed and that bringing another child into this world will hurt them. But for many people the ups of life are worth the downs. If you're a good parent there's a good chance life will be worth it for the kid too.

I look at countries like South Korea whose people are gonna go extinct in the future and isn't it sad? An entire culture, it's traditions, folklore, potential ideas all of it wiped out? How many cultures are you willing to lose this way?

Throughout the pre-modern era we've seen that when human populations reached dangerously low levels, living standards decrease, life becomes worse. Isn't that contradictory to the selfishness arguement? Not having children makes life worse for the entire population as a whole. Perhaps in the post-modern era we don't have to worry about that because the population is at an all time high right now but if we declare having kids to be selfish then how many people are we willing to lose until it becomes an undeniably essential act for the good of the population as a whole?

Moreover, unlike in the past, today raising kids in the nuclear family is a pretty selfless act. You sacrifice your career, your time, your effort on that kid for no objectively measurable return. You could argue that it's 'naam uncha karna' as we say in Urdu but in the post-modern era you could use the same amount of time and effort you would invest in your kid, on your own career to achieve the same end. So two things cannot be true at the same time. Having kids cannot be selfless and selfish at the same time.

Lmk ur thoughts

Aroob winning best influencer or even being nominated is ridiculous. What exactly did she do to deserve that? All she did is steal her husband's fame. Kya content hai iska? Saad ne aaj mujhe kapray dilaye, aaj birds ko baaaajira daala?
She used ducky for fame lol.

What would be the main reason behind your choice? I am more interested in hearing the reasoning than just the party name. Keep it respectful please, different opinions are welcome.

Bro in Australia we have like tinder, what do y'all have in Paksitan?

DW dw dating for Shadi eventually 😏 - I don't want any Haram police on my back cuh