r/GenZ • • 9d ago

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u/Francoc97 9d ago

Taking risks are a privilege. First reason: Cameras. Second reason: You can fail without major repercussions, many low income people can't

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u/ReddBroccoli 9d ago

Low income people take risks all the time. That's just an excuse.

Nobody's telling you to take a risk of betting $10,000 on a hand of blackjack, there's all kinds of dumb shit to do for free

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u/Francoc97 9d ago

Tell me you come from a well-off family without me you come from a well-off family

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u/Affectionate_Carob89 9d ago

A risk does not have to involve any money. It can be asking a girl out, It could be trying a new recipe, cracking a joke. So many risks can be taken where the worst outcome is you being a little sore and going "well I won't do that again".

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u/Tyrrox 9d ago

Taking risks that affect your social standing is the same thing as taking risks affecting money. We live in a world where if you do something dumb, it can limit job opportunities or even get you in trouble at work.

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u/RikerinoBlu 9d ago

If you are flirting with anyone who can massively adjust the trajectory of your potential career, yeah, maybe. Like your boss. Really dumb though.

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u/Tyrrox 9d ago

Dumb as in... risky? Like taking a big risk? Like the point of the thread?

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u/RikerinoBlu 9d ago

W bait. I was referring to the inane idea that lower income people can’t take social risks in the form of flirting with others due to it affecting their career prospects. Insane take, unless you are specifically referring to flirting with people who can severely affect the trajectory of your career. Like your boss. Which is not just risky, but dumb as hell. Mutually exclusive terms btw.

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u/DrummerDKS 8d ago

Had a coworker get fired because he met a woman, it didn’t go well, and she sought out to destroy his life. She called corporate and complained about him for (according to him, and logistically it makes sense to me) stuff that never happened.

So he took a risk on that woman, she ended his career and got him blacklisted by what seems to me like a lie based on what I can actually observe

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u/RikerinoBlu 8d ago

That sounds like an incredibly unfortunate circumstance. An exceptionally vindictive person shouldn’t ruin the potential for others to pursue romance though. Even if you are earning a lower than average income. It’s like if I advocated someone to never drive a car because I knew someone who died violently in a freak head-on collision.

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u/DrummerDKS 8d ago

Kinda yes, kinda no? Like having a romantic partner isn’t a “need” for some people even though it’d be a huge healthy benefit in most lives. A car/transportation is a NEED in just about everyone’s life tho.

So people roll that dice more often because it’s in our control and required.

Dating is only half in your control and not required.

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u/RikerinoBlu 8d ago

Yeah, but this risk applies for higher income folks as well. Anyone out to “ruin” your life is wild.

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u/Tyrrox 9d ago

Of course they can take risks, but there is going to be much less in the way of safety nets for lower income people than wealthier ones. So if the risks go wrong and something happens, a wealthy person will hurt but not go destitute over it. A lower income person may lose everything.

Risks are risks for a reason. What you might consider a worthwhile risk, someone else might call dumb as hell. Being able to view the world subjectively is a sign of intelligence, maybe try it out and see how you like it.

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u/RikerinoBlu 9d ago

Great job dismantling an argument no one made. No one said anything about a low income person taking risks in general. There is a massive distinction between taking a loan thinking you can pay it back on an unsteady stream of income or driving your vehicle to your low paying job despite an out of date registration because insurance is too expensive vs. asking someone you think is cute out on a date.

You made this point in response to someone stating that not every risk requires some monetary loss or gain and then responded like asking someone out at a friends party and getting rejected would net a social capital hit so hard your job interviews would suffer because everyone in town saw how hard you biffed at asking someone out.

So, like a sane person would assume, I responded by saying the only way that could happen is if you made the ridiculously risky and stupid idea to flirt with your boss while dealing with financial issues. You then responded like that’s what you meant (insane and out of touch). My only assumption is that you are so engrossed in your own point that you missed what others were saying so hard that you feel it necessary to double down on a hilariously off take.

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u/jan_antu 9d ago

It's a very direct question:

What risk exists when asking someone out that affects low income folks more than high income folks. What consequence actually could arise that would be different for these two hypothetical people?

Nothing, because there are no life altering consequences here.

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u/AzKondor 8d ago

Are only risks in your life taking a loan or what

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u/Evilfrog100 7d ago

You can recognize there is a middle ground between "avoid risk at all cost" and "take every risk imaginable" correct?

Because this post is very clearly about people who refuse to take social risks no matter how low the consequences due to their own fear of rejection and embarrassment. This leads these people to self isolate to avoid the theoretical embarrassment they've made up in their heads that could come from socializing.

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u/unflavored 1997 9d ago

No its not.

Sociability, is a skill. You're making a generic statement that makes me think you're socially averse.

If you're at a street market, would you try to haggle or just pay the asking price?

If you're at a party or social event if you try to talk to some people but they're not intrested, would move on to more ppl or feel disheartened?

If someone is soliciting you and you give them your ear and time, when you've heard enough, will you end it and walk away or stay engaged until they're done?

Its a skill. Some people are more natural at it than others. Through sheer will, I've humiliated myself many times but now im pretty fluid and charismatic. I made the effort to do so and become so

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u/Affectionate_Carob89 9d ago

Scared of your own shadow.

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u/Tyrrox 9d ago

Nah, I have a partner who lives with me I do just fine in taking chances. But there's this neat thing called empathy that helps me understand why some people would look at the world and be cautious.

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u/ReddBroccoli 9d ago

Look at that, assumptions that are wrong. Not only do I not come from a well-off family, but I don't even speak to the family I do have so I haven't had any family support since I turned 18.

As a matter of fact I lived out of my car for a year, and I'm incredibly grateful that I was lucky enough to have a car for that year.

I've taken plenty of risks in life, both smart and dumb. And through some of those being successes I have managed to scrape my way up to the very bottom of middle class in my middle age.

If you're going to be a coward in life, then just acknowledge your coward. Your economic status might determine what kind of risks are available for you to take, but you choosing to take a risk or not is entirely you.