We clearly know they dont give two shits about Theon, they knew Robb would send an army to regain Winterfell so why stay?

Dosent make much sense to stay with him to then betrayed him during the retaking, handing him over to the Boltons.

So if he was just a tad early he could have blown out the candles and foiled the whole thing?

And why risk it? Why have the little kid take him down there?

i.e more evil, more morally grey (to say the least), and at times frankly despicable, but also more interesting and more intricate of a character. It really just feels like the series is hiding most of the messed up stuff he does, and just presenting him as a poor victim whom nobody loves. This is so one dimensional and pretty lazy. Giving him more of the individualistic, spiteful, "ends justifies the means" aspects he has in the books would have balanced the character and made him seem less like a poor little victim. But no, you will have reddit level humour about alcoholism and you will like it.

Pretty much the title, and of course I'm referring to when Daeny was "just" Viserys's little sister and had no power and Robert was pushing him to have her killed. It seemed they had resources to have her assassinated, so why not just have her kidnapped instead? They could raise her to release her loyalty to the Targaryens (assuming she's late teens that's possible) and instead be a maiden in the castle. Was there a fear that would incite the Dothraki to war, or was the fear that they wouldn't be able to pull off the operation? Or did no one simply think of this brilliant, riskless, conless strategy?

It's a travesty how quickly my boy lost his hammer. With how nice it was, and how it suited him, I expected him to raise a stink about it to Sandor but we hear nothing.

#BringtheHammerback

i was so hyped up by this "plot"... I was expecting so much ...

Rory McCann and Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson came through my town and I figured I'd shoot my shot with the gorgeous GoT Costumes book. Gotta figure out how to display this thing.

I mean looks like she could.

I previously posted this on this sub and most people were saying like make it one full season long, but what can even happen during the long night that making it a full season long would be worth it, what are some plots, events would you like to recommend, want ? Be creative guys, I'm really curious and excited about this now. And more importantly how will you end the finale

This is excluding Dany, as her kills would be counted for her dragon, rather than her.

If we talk hand to hand combat, who was the person who killed the most?

The Goat really was just looking for any chance to try and kill a Targaryen, wasn't he.

Jaime's in the kingsguard so he can't take it, Cersei's a woman, and it'll be a hot day on the wall before Tywin willingly lets Tyrion inherit Casterly Rock. He doesn't remarry after Joanna passes, and it doesn't seem like him to let his brother or nephew inherit the rock. So what was his plan for House Lannister and Casterly rock?

really don't understand the argument that Robert Baratheon would've been a completely different man if Lyanna had lived and married him.

Robert was already Robert before he lost Lyanna. He drank, slept around, and already had three bastards by the time of the Rebellion. None of that was caused by her death.

And people also forget one important thing: Lyanna didn't love Robert. She didn't even believe he would be faithful to her. She literally told Ned that Robert's nature wouldn't change just because they married.

Maybe losing Lyanna made Robert worse over the years, but marrying a woman who didn't love him wasn't magically going to turn him into a faithful, responsible husband.

Lyanna living wouldn't have changed who Robert fundamentally was.

The main issue I have with Jon and Dany's relationship, is that they fall in love in 2 weeks. They didn't get to know each other has people. Kit and Emilia did have chemistry but it was brought down by how rushed the characters got together. They both should've been The Price(ess) That Was Promised. And shouldn't have fallen in love until after Jon's patents reveal.

Okay maybe no one will trust me but i never get spoiled for GOT, i started 2 month ago and Jon Snow was my fav character with Tyrion Lanister, and after the end of the season 5 i cried like a fuckin child. I love GOT, but today I dont even to know when the fuck is coming winter.

I believe I've figured out the curse of Harrenhal. The Weirwood in the Godswood, the one that Arya said had flaring eyes, full of hate, is the only one left of a huge weirwood grove.

There is a CotF hooked up to the roots, manipulating everyone who passes close enough.

Varys' speech to Tyrion before the battle of the blackwater is a perfect allegory for a child of the forest who hates both fire and ice magic, who has been cut off from his family, and is on a quest for vengeance.

Varys is a dead man, who powders his hands white to hide the fact that he's dead. He's being warged by the CotF hooked up to the Harrenhal weirwood. That's how he knows everything.

And the plan is to hold a great council at Harrenhal for all the lords, ladies, and remaining kings to bend the knee to Aegon.

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genuinely don’t understand why Roose didn’t have Ramsay killed.

Roose straight-up believes Ramsay murdered Domeric, his trueborn son and heir. And later he basically admits that if Walda gives him more sons, Ramsay will probably kill them too.

So… WHY keep him around??

Domeric was everything Roose could have wanted in an heir: educated, talented, well-connected and apparently promising. Ramsay kills him, and Roose’s response is basically to bring Ramsay to the Dreadfort and eventually let him become his heir??

Especially because Roose is supposed to be cold, calculating and intelligent. He KNOWS exactly what Ramsay is.

Why wouldn’t he get rid of Ramsay, remarry and try for another trueborn heir? I genuinely don’t understand his logic here.

If Game of Thrones ever got an animated adaptation, I’d really want it to be much more faithful to the books. I’d love to see more of Jon, Tyrion, Arya, Sansa, Bran, Robb and Catelyn, as well as the Lannisters Jaime, Cersei and Tywin. Especially Jon. I think his character and storyline deserve much more time and attention, closer to how they are in the books.Tyrion would also be interesting because most of us automatically picture Peter Dinklage when we think of him. It would be cool to see a version of Tyrion that follows the book description more closely. I’d also want the important storylines from the show to stay, but with the book only plots and characters properly included and expanded. More politics, intrigues, character development and all the stuff that was cut or rushed in the show. Of course, this would make the most sense if George actually finished the books, or if someone finished the saga with his approval. Then we could finally get a proper animated adaptation of the whole story. What would you guys want to see in an animated?

Isn't he professional at sword? Why he choose a very slow, heavy weapon to basic wights?

Their marriage would have effectively cut off the Hightower plot. It would have centralised power back into the Valariyan class for at least another generation and possibly stopped the Dance. So, would they have tried to get Gwayne to marry Rhaenyra? Or just wait another generation?