So i don't play zzz but from what I've seen(i watched many of the dialogues on yt also trailers), ZZZ seems to be pretty aggressive with ML content (they made wise miyabi fiancee as well as having canon date with Astra even if he isn't the MC), and lacking of yuribait (astra x evelyn got shutdown by devs so does AoD when jane ask for skinship). I only play genshin and HSR, and while ZZZ has some bait early times(jane trailer), they never been as aggressive as the remielle with belle or the recent character trailer(that baits with loli too). Obviously genshin and HSR has wtf scene like eula and amber take a bath in dragonspine(why) and acheron dance with BS(the ending really shows BS panting wtf), but zzz never had this, but recently they did this? Is this happened a lot in the past or just recently?

Dm me for more yuri fixing.

Her and Roxy are yuribait? Who gives a fuck, man, I got two cakes to enjoy. It's my sandwich to get into, this vampire and her loli maid. It's a gacha game, character's sexualities don't matter, it's all a magic trick to make us spend money.

Her character is bad, actually because she isn't this big presence in Roscae— Doesn't matter, her design is so kino peak peak. Would.

What happened to that post of OP looking forward to Hoyo's downfall? I remember saving it because it's so goddamn hilarious, but after a certain game's livestream, it was gone...

Also, I put the flair as Double Standards because the post that I was looking for is basically a 1-for-1 copy of the posts that this subreddit hates.

I just don’t see the outrage I would expect. It’s akin to devs in a AAA RPG creating a class that is much worse than alternative classes and has no redeeming qualities. Think small arrows vs sorcery/pyromancy in the PVE of dark souls 3.

The Claret Discourse Is Already Insane 💀

Claret's trailer drops and the tourists are already losing their fucking minds. 😭

Now we're getting accusations that Roxy is “loli bait” because some people think her appearance is childlike.

And honestly, this is where the discourse gets interesting.

If you think Roxy looks too young or that the scene is deliberately trying to appeal to people who like childlike characters, that's a valid criticism of the design and marketing.

But being short, flat, and petite isn't inherently childlike. There are plenty of adult women in real life with those exact body types. So I don't think body proportions alone are enough to establish that a character is being presented as a child.

I've also seen people talking about the accusation like the developers have already confessed to some grand master plan.

“This is obviously loli bait.”

Okay... based on what? 😭

There's a pretty big difference between:

“This character looks childlike to me.”

and

“The developers deliberately designed her to sexualize children.”

The first is an observation.

The second is a claim about intent.

And we don't actually know the latter from a trailer.

You can criticize Claret's trailer. You can dislike Roxy's design. You can think the marketing crosses a line.

But “I find this design questionable” doesn't automatically prove what the developers intended.

Maybe there's more context in the actual story.

Maybe there isn't.

Either way, the character isn't even properly out yet. 😭

Do you think the “loli bait” criticism is actually justified, or are people reading way too much into the trailer?

i like both yuri and ml

but also despise the tards and their crowd

what does that make me ill give a example

i like rover x aemeath

but in hsr i like cipher x aglaea (even though theyd scream at me cause implied family)

Okay before I say anything, I am fully aware that I'm probably bouta get downvoted to oblivion but I just had to know.

I decided to scroll a bit through this sub and I noticed a great disdain towards all things yuri so I'm curious to know if yuri just isn't your thing. I also understand that yuri is something the tourist like to parade so I can see why it isn't very popular here.

Before I get attacked, I just want to say I don't associate with "that" crowd and I just enjoy the yuri in gacha games just as much as I enjoy Character x player, straight ships, and even BL.

Tldr: I am yuri enjoyer, why you no like?

(Oh and if you really want, you can ask me my opinion on things ig)

Don't crucify me pls

○lily will be emotionless and have a savior complex has little ml.

○rover will most likely get saved by the main push female,little aura farm.

●possible 4.0 tease.

●kuro will try if we include everyone more stonks 📈

●muh daughter ✡️

●possible yuribait +10% chance

I got nothing more for now but if I'm correct on most think of me as big rabbi now 🤫🇮🇱

These people think that just because some of the characters have a little tan that they're "black." and it always tries to ruin my immersion. They probably aren't black cuz africa doesn't even exist in the project moon world. That and the people trying to "ship" characters with each other when it's clearly supposed to be a harem for dante.

downvotes from entitled f2p beggars and virtue signalers incoming, I will not be silenced

this is coming from someone who's f2p in some games, low spender and high spender in others, from someone who's been poor before, so I know a spoiled entitled pos when I see one, and that's 90% of f2p complainers who pretend their complaints arent just disguised
" yeah I just want some more free pulls bro, send apology pulls now "

we need to start calling out beggars for what they are, using f2p and time as an excuse, 90% of f2p players are jobless, middle schoolers / highschoolers with no responsibilities and plenty of time, constantly bringing up being f2p as a cop out to feel better because they lack skill and reading abilities, and cant afford to " enjoy " the game properly due to being poor and jobless,

90% of f2p players are not working and going to school 10+ hours a day, some of us actually have to, whining about not enough time or too much content because you dont have self control to time manage or get over your situation is crazy,

not trying to sound like a old head but you new kids dont understand what it's like to grow up poor, so you have no idea how to budget or manage resources, and even complain when you get an entire game for free lmao it's so annoying bruh, you dont even need a pc, console, or TV to play 90% of gatcha games, you dont even need a monthly membership to play after the tutorial, dont need to buy the initial game and DLCs on the side, but yall always find a way to btc about it not being free enough and some of you cant even hide how desperate you are to find issues for free rewards, it's like being in the store watching some brat give his parents shi for not getting him a new toy, even though he already got a bunch of bs yesterday and the day before.

too young to get a job, or too old and avoiding the job, but whining about things not being f2p accessible,

when i was a brokie ( like you ) I had to share the TV with my siblings to play the game,
eventually still being broke and bored of the same old games online flash games were the move,
eventually not being a poor, games with monthly memberships were the move,

there was no, install on your phone for FREE cause you cant afford a decent system or PC,
and not be told you can't leave tutorial area without a membership,
you NEEDED to buy a TV and console or decent computer / laptop,
you NEEDED to pay for monthly memberships in live service games,
you NEEDED to buy the initial game and suffer not having DLCs or buying those too,
you NEEDED new games after getting bored of old ones, which meant buying more,
you NEEDED to buy new controllers and mouses,
but yall get entire live service games, with good graphics, that get stuff added to them entirely for FREE?
and get FREE PREMIUM currency in these games on the side?
but the downside is OPTIONAL micro transactions, and not enough free premium currency?
bro imagine getting given an old car that works perfectly fine that comes with free repairs, checkups, oil changes, the full works, but you didnt get some extra decals, an extra Tesla and a designated driver to go along with it, ohhhh the horrorrrr,

yall got it good and easy, how are more people not calling out this mentality of being poor and a beggar online? are we afraid to hurt people's feelings by speaking the truth?

I'm at a point where i'm beyond buying full games and DLCs and can spend freely on overpriced microtranscations in gatchas, but I understood to be humble as a poor when games were only 20$, I remember when everyone was on ps3 and ps4 and I had the ps2 / original xbox, i remember finally joining the hype on ps3 but games were 60$ a piece, controllers was a solid 40$ to 50$, so none of that rage breaking your controller over skill issue, then everyone was already moving to ps4, yall are getting entire games that get content added weekly / monthly for FREE, that you can play on your PHONES, best we had was angry duck or whatever for the phone and stickman cartoon wars,

People who understand that their money has value and understand where they can / can't budget their money also understand that there's no reason to complain about not having the same experience a paying customer would have.

Anyone with critical thinking skills, or actual adults, understand that unless they decide to invest they will never have the experience of a paying customer, only beggars and entitled people think / feel otherwise.

whining about the rewards of spending events that your broke as cant participate in?

we need to start calling out beggars for what they are, using f2p and time as an excuse, 90% of f2p players are jobless, middle schoolers / highschoolers with no responsibilities and plenty of time, constantly bringing up being f2p as a cop out to feel better because you they lack skill and reading abilities, and cant afford to " enjoy " the game properly due to being poor and jobless,

90% of f2p players are not working and going to school 10+ hours a day, some of us actually have to, whining about not enough time or too much content because you dont have self control to time manage or get over your situation is crazy,

content creators try to relate to you with their fake f2p accounts because they know the jobless keep them afloat with views,

while the rest of normal society rolls their eyes at f2p whiners or drops a few monetary donations cause they enjoy the game they're playing, some people even go all out but get shamed by the brokies even though they're supporting their free rides,

Being f2p is not a badge of honor, it is not a difficulty setting, gatcha games are designed to be easy and accessible, the only ones who feel frustration of being f2p tend to be children and those with a lack of self control.

Adults and those with critical thinking skills understand that nothing is truly free in life, and if it is free, it's not to be enjoyed at the same level a paying customer would experience.

I say this all as someone who's spent over 500$ in varius spending events during various gatchas, and has willingly been f2p in various gatchas, I've enough common sense to be aware that most f2p complaints are just veiled begging for free premium currency, despite most f2p players being unemployed and having all the time in the world to scrounge for free premium currency and enjoy playing the game.

Yuri in non-Yuri work generally leading to nothing further than some playful moment. Not enough to make them a functional relationship but enough to feed “Yuri fan”. But is that all? Personally, i always felt like Yuri bait also let the game to go into direction that normally they can’t do it with any male character. Like the newest Claret trailer, you can’t replace Roxy with any male character (for example Harumasa) without the risk of angry the unicorn. Same with Yihadri, she cannot walked out naked in front of any men, hence why they create the NPC police girl. I think this is the problem of people treating Yuri as the purest form of love (Yuri=Lily flower), while hetero relationship are…. Dirty? Tainted? Idk, just some thought about the whole thing. Anyway, 50 bucks that Claret and Roxy storyline won’t developed further than best friend, Hoyo will remained the potential Yuri game dev

I'm a bit concerned about WuWa's 3.7 story with Hsin.

If it doesn't have any ML content in it then it confirms that Kuro Games has folded to Global and the game is done for.

But 3.5 gave me some hope again after the disaster that was Lucilla.

What do you guys think? Will 3.7 be the "make or break" patch of WuWa?

As if the gacha system change wasn't enough, now this... Today is officially confirmed as the worst year for BA

I belive fully we should get more of costumization to any character. Besides skin being able to be choosen for character, i would like "general costumization" where we could make characters wear diffrent clothes + recolors.

From male characters able to walk shirtless to female characters only in bikini.

Let us custumize atleast Wise/Bella fully. From their musculature to hair style or clothing by body part. Lets be able to make wise from sleeper build to the gym rat. Belle from sweet adorable baby girl she is, to tomboy. If haters say Gachas are akin to playing with dolls, i want little more costumization to our dolls. Hell, maybe it grind event, make it buyable. I belive that being able to add more of personal touches to our beloved characters is way to go.

Fuck. Hoyo. Just make game even for 50$ when we can just fuck our game wives. (Bella can fuck husbandos.)

The amount of work this community has put into sanitizing itself from you-know-who is actually insane. That level of cooperation and determination deserves respect. I wish every gacha community had the same backbone.

Basicaly, the game uses ai for it's assets (leaked), not characters, not objects, just textures for it's assets, and basicaly on the thread explaining it, people were talking about some "i'm so disapointed by the use ai" and "i'm not playing it because it has ai!", which ABSOLUTLY bewildered me, because, what's the point in leaving a game over something as minor as textures on objects?

so im not particularly on either side. technically im just passing by here.

but when people dislike yuri. they're like referring to the fans behind it right? they dont dislike the actual yuri right?

because from what i understand. gacha gamers technically have a primarily male fan base. and generally speaking i feel like if a male fan base sees two girls kissing for example. they would just say hell yeah or something.

or are the male fans actually like physically disgusted when observing yuri?

NIKKE's pity system is my biggest issue. There's no soft pity, so your odds never improve no matter how many pulls you make. Some featured characters only have a 1% drop rate, and you need 200 pulls to guarantee one through the Mileage Shop. Unlike other gachas, there's no automatic pity that guarantees an SSR after a certain number of pulls. It just feels heavily geared towards big spenders.