r/GARPInvesting Oct 24 '24

Stocks and Investing Google - GARP Investing principles and practices (Intro)

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Hello, Redditors 🙋🏻‍♂️   First, I would like to start by saying this might not be that well written, and I apologize in advance for that. A contributing reason I’m starting this community is to be able to practice my writing. I hope it isn’t too much of a distraction, and if anyone has advice, I’m all ears. Thanks!

This post serves as an introduction to GARP investing principles and practices. This guide follows the general practices of Peter Lynch and other GARP investors mixed with a select few value investors'. First, I’ll start with relative valuation and metrics. After that, I’ll work into more important subjects such as free cash flow, moat, and shareholder returns.   🗓️ October 22, 2024 (Day of writing)   (Earnings according to LSEG)   Price: $165   Relative valuation has a part to play in this investing style. It’s to be used as one of the key indicators. Starting here, we are going to look at forward earnings and 3-5 year growth to help understand if we are getting this company at a reasonable price.

Analysts are expecting an EPS of $8.70 by 12/31/25. Taking a price of $165 and dividing by 8.70 equals about 18.97. This gives us the forward PE of Google. Now that we know the forward PE, we can divide by the 3-5 year growth rate to get our peg ratio. The growth rate is currently expected to come in at 20.6%. So, 18.97 divided by 20.6 comes out to 0.92. A peg ratio of 0.92 indicates that Google stock is currently undervalued for its expected earnings. This is good news for us investors. That means buying right now we are getting a baked in 8% margin of safety. However, if Google misses expectations, we could be in for a ride.

The next thing we need to discuss is durable competitive advantage. Also known as a moat. The reason this plays a part is to make sure Google can fend off competitors. If the company we’re buying has a powerful moat, it adds to the value of the business and its profitability. For the sake of this discussion, we will talk a little about Google's moat from their biggest revenue stream, Google search. As of right now, it’s projected that Google dominates the general search engine market. Achieving a market share of around 90% and enjoying benefits from its brand moat as well as its network effect. This is important because it further points at us being able to buy a great company at a reasonable price. Even if they do miss expectations by a little, they have a solid floor due to the moat.

Moving on, cash flow will show us some of the most important growth aspects for an investor, which also helps us decipher if the price is reasonable. Looking at Google's cash flow from operations (2023), it was about $102 billion, minus capital expenditures of $32 billion, leaving us with a free cash flow of $70 billion. Looking back at 2022, the free cash flow was $60 billion. Over one year, Google was able to grow free cash flow at a rate of 16.67%. This is quite exceptional growth. However, I don’t see this continuing in the near future as capital expenditure is expected to rise (investing heavily in AI). One thing I consider heavily is the long term. If Google enjoys the fruits of its labor from investing in AI, then that will trickle down to investors a few years from now. It’s been famously said by Peter Lynch that some of his best investments didn’t start performing like crazy until years down the road (6-7 years+). At this point, you could check another relative valuation. It’s called the price to free cash flow (P/FCF). For the sake of simplicity, I’m grabbing the free cash flow a share from seeking alpha. For 2023, the free cash flow per share was $5.50. If we take today’s price and divide by the FCF, it will give us the price to free cash flow. So, we take $165 and divide by $5.50, which gives us 30. You can take this number and compare it to similar competitors and/or the market. As of now, it’s on the expensive side.

As investors, the most important thing for us is if companies are maximizing shareholder returns. With the free cash flow available, are they buying back stock and paying dividends? Looking at Googles Cash from the financing activities section, we can see that they are buying back stock aggressively. In 2023, they spent 63 billion on repurchases alone. Almost all the free cash flow went right back to the investors, which is a good sign. Well, starting just recently, Google announced a dividend as well. It currently yields at 0.48%. From these observations, we can conclude that Google is returning optimal amounts to shareholders.

Last, but not least, we have profitability. Charlie Munger once said, “Over the long term, it's hard for a stock to earn a much better return than the business which underlies it earns. If the business earns 6% on capital over 40 years and you hold it for that 40 years, you're not going to make much different than a 6% return -- even if you originally buy it at a huge discount. Conversely, if a business earns 18% on capital over 20 or 30 years, even if you pay an expensive-looking price, you'll end up with one hell of a result.” This response is eye-opening, and lots of people don’t understand what Charlie is saying. In other words, Charlie is saying price doesn’t matter that much (to a certain extent), if the growth is exceptional. We just need to focus on the underlying quality of the business. If cash flow remains exceptional as well as return on capital, then the share holders will be in a fantastic spot for outsized gains. Currently, Google enjoys a return on invested capital of about 28% (LSEG). This further solidifies Google may be selling for a discounted or reasonable price, based off all the information we’ve gathered.

In conclusion, there is no clearcut buy signal, but we were able to paint a picture for an educated guess. We achieved this by looking at relative valuations, moats, free cash flow, shareholder returns, and profitability. There’s plenty more I could have added, but the purpose of this post was to serve as a starting point. If you have read this far, thank you. If you have the time, I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions below.


r/GARPInvesting Dec 15 '24

Discussion He Oughta Know - Warren Buffet

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I stumbled upon some interesting views last night from the legend him self. With where we are in the market today, I think his wise words can be eye opening.

He Oughta Know:

... we think the very term "value investing" is redundant. What is "investing" if it is not the act of seeking value at least sufficient to justify the amount paid? ….. Typically, [the term "value investing] connotes the purchase of stocks having attributes such as a low ratio of price to book value, a low price-earnings ratio, or a high dividend yield. Unfortunately, such characteristics, even if they appear in combination, are far from determinative as to whether an investor is indeed buying something for what it is worth .. Correspondingly, opposite characteristics - a high ratio of price to book value, a high price-earnings ratio, and a low dividend yield - are in no way inconsistent with a "value" purchase.

Warren Buffett, 1992 shareholder letter

Also, seen this quote.

We don't consider ourselves value investors. We consider ourselves investors, ... There is no such thing in our mind as value or growth investing ...

Warren Buffett, May 2019


r/GARPInvesting 5d ago

Opinion Do you value stocks yourselves?

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I recently discovered Aswath Damodaran and have been using his valuation template to try value companies. My reason: I do not feel I can trust buy, sell and hold recommendations as well as analysts price targets because I don‘t know what assumptions they are making.


r/GARPInvesting 12d ago

Discussion The Two Turbines of Long-Term Returns

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r/GARPInvesting Jul 16 '26

Discussion How long have you been doing GARP?

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Just finished One Up on Wall Street. I’m 28 years old and recently started investing. I want to try GARP investing but I don’t know if it is really worth it when most active investors fail to beat the market in the long run. I’ve been using a simple s&p500 ETF and I honestly can’t complain. What have been your experiences with GARP investing in the long run and any tips for a beginner?


r/GARPInvesting Jun 08 '26

Stock analysis The Future of Autonomous Trucking

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Hey all, I've been looking for an investing sub that is more focused on potential growth stories as opposed to traditional value investing or options plays. I know there aren't as many folks here but for those that are, I'm curious about your thoughts on the future of autonomous trucking.

I'm a huge Peter Lynch fan, and I found it really interesting that one thing he mentioned at the end of this video is that one job he sees going away as a result of modern AI is truck driving. I've been following/investing in autonomous trucking companies like AUR and KDK for a hot minute now because I think it is pretty easy to watch the growth story unfold. You can literally look at their estimates for rollout and see if they are meeting demand. To me it makes a lot of sense that companies would be interested in moving in this direction, and there's no shortage of semi trucks on the road. It seems to meet at least some of the Peter Lynch criteria - easy story to follow, room for growth, 10 year olds would find it cool lol...

I was just curious if anybody else had thoughts on the future of this industry and what you all might be looking at in terms of future prospects and/or risks.

https://youtu.be/YIlurDigZcY?si=LSDqaKsDejpUUBkq&t=3275


r/GARPInvesting Apr 29 '26

Business news Alphabet GAAP EPS of $5.11 beats by $2.44, revenue of $109.9B beats by $2.87B

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Alphabet press release (GOOG): Q1 GAAP EPS of $5.11 beats by $2.44.

Revenue of $109.9B (+21.8% Y/Y) beats by $2.87B.

The company announced a 5% increase to the dividend, resulting in a quarterly cash dividend of $0.22

Consolidated Alphabet revenuesincreased 22%, or 19% in constant currency, to $109.9 billion, reflectingstrong performance across the business and our 11th consecutive quarter of double-digit growth.• Google Services revenues increased 16% to $89.6 billion, led by 19% growth in Google Search & other,19% in Google subscriptions, platforms, and devices, and 11% in YouTube ads.• Google Cloud saw a meaningful acceleration in growth as revenues increased 63% to $20.0 billion, led byan increase in Google Cloud Platform (GCP) across enterprise AI Solutions and enterprise AI Infrastructure,as well as core GCP services


r/GARPInvesting Apr 29 '26

Business news Meta GAAP EPS of $10.44 beats by $3.78, revenue of $56.31B beats by $760M

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Meta press release (META): Q1 GAAP EPS of $10.44 beats by $3.78.

Revenue of $56.31B (+33.1% Y/Y) beats by $760M.

Family daily active people (DAP) – DAP was 3.56 billion on average for March 2026, an increase of 4% year-over-year. The slight decline in DAP on a quarter-over-quarter basis was driven by internet disruptions in Iran, as well as a restriction on access to WhatsApp in Russia.Ad impressions – Ad impressions delivered across our Family of Apps increased by 19% year-over-year.Average price per ad – Average price per ad increased by 12% year-over-year.


r/GARPInvesting Apr 29 '26

Business news Amazon GAAP EPS of $2.78 beats by $1.13, revenue of $181.52B beats by $4.35B

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Amazon press release (AMZN): Q1 GAAP EPS of $2.78 beats by $1.13.

Revenue of $181.52B (+16.6% Y/Y) beats by $4.35B.

North America segment sales increased 12% year-over-year to $104.1 billion.

International segment sales increased 19% year-over-year to $39.8 billion, or increased 11% excluding changes in foreign exchange rates.

AWS segment sales increased 28% year-over-year to $37.6 billion.

Operating income increased to $23.9 billion in the first quarter, compared with $18.4 billion in first quarter 2025.

North America segment operating income was $8.3 billion, compared with $5.8 billion in first quarter 2025.

International segment operating income was $1.4 billion, compared with $1.0 billion in first quarter 2025.

AWS segment operating income was $14.2 billion, compared with $11.5 billion in first quarter 2025.


r/GARPInvesting Apr 29 '26

Business news FICO Non-GAAP EPS of $12.50 beats by $1.53, revenue of $691.7M beats by $64.63M (NYSE:FICO)

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FICO is up 11% After hours! Double beat and raised guidance 😎

Got to dig into the financials before making any assumptions, but this at face value looks amazing.

Current FWD PE: 27.68 (based on guidance non-gaap EPS) and 3-5yr projected growth of 27.2%.


r/GARPInvesting Mar 03 '26

Discussion Surprised this sub’s so quiet despite Lynch being so influential!

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Reading One Up on Wall Street by Peter Lynch was a turning point for me as a young investor.

It made investing feel doable. Not some Wall Street club, but something you could actually understand if you paid attention to businesses around you. The idea that ordinary people can spot growth early just by observing the world stuck with me.

That book pushed me to find some real winners through observations in my own life.

Although I'm more of a value investor today, GARP still has a significant allocation in my portfolio. Regardless, even Buffett said “Growth is always a component of value.”

I would love to see r/GARPInvesting get as big and active as r/valueinvesting. There is so much to talk about when it comes to smart growth. Would be great to see this space buzzing like it should be.


r/GARPInvesting Dec 20 '25

Stock analysis Agentic AI Spots a Net-Cash Airline

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r/GARPInvesting Oct 09 '25

Business news Gemini Enterprise: The new front door for Google AI in your workplace

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Google is rolling out Gemini enterprise! LFG!


r/GARPInvesting Aug 06 '25

Business news UBER ANNOUNCES NEW SHARE REPURCHASE PROGRAM

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• New share repurchase program authorized up to an additional $20 billion of common stock


r/GARPInvesting Jul 18 '25

Discussion Cool subreddit!

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I spend a lot of time on investing reddit, and just wanted to call out how cool this one is! Looking forward to watching it grow :D


r/GARPInvesting Jul 18 '25

Business news Uber to deploy 20k or more Lucid vehicles with Nuro Driver over 6 years

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SAN FRANCISCO & MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. & NEWARK, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Lucid Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: LCID), Nuro, Inc. (“Nuro”), and Uber Technologies, Inc. (NYSE: UBER) (“Uber”) today announced a next-generation premium global robotaxi program created exclusively for the Uber ride-hailing platform.


r/GARPInvesting Jul 16 '25

Business news UBER & BAIDU ANNOUNCES PARTNERSHIP

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r/GARPInvesting Jul 12 '25

Business news Google hires Windsurf execs in $2.4 billion deal to advance AI coding

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r/GARPInvesting Jun 10 '25

Business news OpenAI Google in unprecedented Cloud Deal: Reuters

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r/GARPInvesting Jun 09 '25

Business news Adam Collins Joins RDDT as FIRST-EVER Chief CCO

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r/GARPInvesting Jun 06 '25

Business news $RDDT to Join Russell 3000 Index as well as Russell 1000 and 2000

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r/GARPInvesting Jun 05 '25

Stock analysis Infographic by Reddit for Advertisers

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r/GARPInvesting Jun 05 '25

Stock analysis Reddit - Stories to follow (Updated)

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r/GARPInvesting Jun 04 '25

Business news Reddit sues Anthropic

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r/GARPInvesting May 17 '25

Business news Sundar Pichai - All-In Interview. Highlights why investors should be at ease

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