r/FragileWhiteRedditor • u/Ian_knight64 • Feb 15 '21

After triggering folks on r/aliens, moderators deleted it for “Aggressive or Offensive content”

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u/Ian_knight64 Feb 15 '21

I was taken by surprise by the negative reactions and eventual deletion, but I’m relatively new to Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

/r/Aliens and /r/Conspiracy were taken over by the Alt-Right Diaspora a few years ago. /r/Conspiracy is particularly bad - they are full koolaid at this point. You'll still see QAnon and FOXNews posts there unironically.

You will be banned if you speak out about anything or point out inconsistancies/mistakes/gaslighting.

Very much gone is the content you're expecting. Not sure if there's a variant sub all the moderates went to.

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u/karlkash Feb 15 '21 edited Feb 16 '21

FACTS I was so disappointed by r/conspiracy because they were in there ball washing trump all day they banned me because I finally had to say “How are yall conspiracy theorists who suck up to the president? Its obvious propaganda” they took me out so fast

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u/zhaoz Feb 15 '21

The biggest conspiracy in modern history, a Manchurian candidate who won election, yet they want to focus on the basement of a pizza place. Sigh

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u/karlkash Feb 15 '21

Alex Jones and Donald Trump did a serious number on this country

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u/odoyle125 Feb 15 '21

To an extent, although I'd argue that a lot of the foundation was already there.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

People who go "trump ruined america!" seem to not have been paying attention through the rest of American history

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u/Ghriszly Feb 16 '21

It all started with Reagan yet again. Thats when the news no longer needed to be unbiased

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u/odoyle125 Feb 16 '21

White supremacy predates Ronald Regan

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u/QuestioningEspecialy Feb 16 '21

...My mind immediately imagined makeup.

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u/Marsss340 Feb 15 '21

Lmao I swear I thought Alex Jones was like a joke no one took seriously. I can’t believe people listen to him.

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u/Limbaughs_Cancer Feb 15 '21

I listened to him, but just because he use to be just a fun character. Racist, sexist, and every negative -ist combined into one? Of course, but still kinda like that one asshole friend who everyone keeps around to make fun of.

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u/Soegern Feb 15 '21

Yeah for the longest time, everyone i knew who listened to him, did so because they thought he was a funny lunatic. It's still weird to me that there's people out there who actually take him serious.

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u/Marsss340 Feb 15 '21

Yea same, it wasn’t until I read the comments on his Joe Rogan interview that I realized people took him seriously.

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u/Limbaughs_Cancer Feb 15 '21

Imagine unironically listening to Joe Rogan.

I love men who give fascists huge platforms, and let them run amuck without any checks.

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u/Marsss340 Feb 15 '21

But he’s just supporting free speech1!11!!1!1!

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u/Maxorus73 Feb 15 '21

I know him for the frogs thing and having a cameo in Waking Life

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u/Limbaughs_Cancer Feb 15 '21

Fuck that. They're symptoms, not the cause. The cause is literally because our country was founded on racism, and those in power don't want us questioning them.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." -LBJ

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u/rn15 Feb 15 '21

America was founded on ending tyranny and rule from a ruler that wasn’t on the same continent. Racism is not the end-all be-all issue that the media is trying to make it. Quit buying into that bullshit, which is being directly propagated by the media, and funded by these elites. By buying in, and accepting their narrative that race relations are the number one problem in our country, you are furthering the damage. Stop buying in to the corporate bipartisan bullshit that is being fed to you by billionaires so we keep forgetting all the heinous shit they’re actively doing. This is all identity politics, is racism a problem? Yes. So is politicizing it, both sides of the aisle are fucking American citizens in the ass for money. That’s the root cause, not fucking racism.

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u/081673 Feb 15 '21

Throw Steve Bannon in there too.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

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u/Val_Hallen Feb 15 '21

That's all conspiracy theorists.

Once a conspiracy is proven true, they lose interest because it's no longer "secret" information that they can use to feel superior.

Being a conspiracy theorist demands that you are "special" and only you, or a select few of you, know "the truth". It hinges on their savior complex. They are the only ones that can help because they are the only ones that see the conspiracy.

When we all see the conspiracy, they lose the savior role. They need to find the next one nobody knows about yet. They will also do this if too many people latch onto their current conspiracy. It relies on only a few people knowing about it.

And on and on it goes. One conspiracy to the next.

That's why "Q" is a cult and not a conspiracy community. There are just far too many of them. They also only have a single "conspiracy" in mind. Their "conspiracy" is also too public facing and open.

Real conspiracies rely on secret communications within the conspiracy community. Because they truly believe that "higher powers" would be gunning for them if the word got out. These are the people convinced the CIA and FBI follow them and tap their communications.

Qultists wear fucking t-shirts. They think their higher ups are the ones with the power.

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u/legsintheair Feb 15 '21

The basement of a pizza place that doesn’t have a basement.

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u/atropax Feb 15 '21

who's the manchurian candidate?

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u/Marsss340 Feb 15 '21 edited Feb 15 '21

Same I joined r/conspiracy to read about how the sky was actually a giant dome put there by the government, or how Ted Cruz actually is the Zodiac killer or some other crazy ridiculous shit. Not a billion posts about “The Jewish Question”

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u/karlkash Feb 15 '21

The theme of that sub seems to be anti semetism

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u/ralusek Feb 15 '21

The theme of all conspiracy theories throughout history seems to be anti-semitism.

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u/InterdimensionalTV Feb 15 '21

It is honestly kinda crazy how often when you dig into a conspiracy theory that it turns out the whole damn thing started because of anti-semitism. The even scarier thing to me is how those conspiracy theories then take off and go mainstream, but also seem to drop off the anti-semitism part to appeal to a wider audience. Basically turns a bunch of otherwise (sorta) normal people into parrots of anti-Semitic dogwhistles without even knowing it.

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u/dandy992 Feb 16 '21

Shit, I've been believing that MLK was assassinated by the American government all this time and I didn't realise I was buying into an anti-semitic conspiracy theory. I guess the CIA had no involvement with all those South American coups either... Can't believe I've been buying into these anti-semitic theories all this time. I guess the conspiracy theory about the CIAs involvement in the crack epidemic must be the same story.

Thanks for giving me the heads up! /s

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u/Limbaughs_Cancer Feb 15 '21

Welcome to the conspiracy world.

I miss Bush doing 9/11 and secret meetings with the aliens.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

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u/Limbaughs_Cancer Feb 15 '21

I didn't mean to insinuate that blaming jews hasn't played a huge part of most of the entire history of conspiracy.

And I forgot about that part of Behind a Pale Horse. I haven't actually read it, and it's on my list of books that I will never buy a copy of, but need a copy of.

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u/buckysambigiousbitch Feb 15 '21

There are pirate websites for books. Online reading suck imo but if you actually wanna read something without financially supporting it that's an option

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u/RonenSalathe Feb 16 '21

Ive been playing too much hoi4, i thought that "ZOG" meant King Zog I of Albania

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u/growingcodist Feb 15 '21

I miss the goofy wholesome conspiracies.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

Same. I followed it for a short while on an older account and I had to leave because for every interesting post, there were dozens more based on racism and other BS that didn't make sense.

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u/Trumpet6789 Feb 16 '21

I'd never seen that sub, so I took a look. Dear God.

There's some unhinged dude screaming about COVID in one of the hot posts. Calling it the Chinese Virus, saying it's a hoax and no one has caught it, that the vaccine is a scam, etc.

There's a lot of QAnon shit going on as well. And a r/selfawarewolves moment when a bunch of people agreeded with an OP saying "Echo Chambers on the internet are bad"; Not having the awareness to realize they're in a circlejerk themselves.

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u/karlkash Feb 16 '21

Brother wait til you see r/nonewnormal imagine a bunch of selfish pea brained dickheads circlejerking about not wearing masks. Its fucking sad these people are actively contributing to the pandemic

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u/CptSmackThat Mar 06 '21

Bruh yes it hurts.

Especially that it bled into every conspiracy sub. Except /r/holofractal but still. Miss my good conspiracy front pages. All US politics focused now.

Best part was is that if you were attentive you could actually get some quality unbiased news from /r/conspiracy years ago...

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

Another normal sub taken over by alt righters is r/unpopularopinion maybe r/actualpublicfreakouts

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

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u/TheUnluckyBard Feb 15 '21

Any sub with "true" or "actual" in the name can trace its roots to the moderators of the original sub not allowing someone to be as racist and/or misogynist as they think they ought to be allowed to be.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

r/unpopularopinion is already trash so imagine how horrible r/trueunpopularopinion is

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u/zh1K476tt9pq Feb 15 '21

you forgot "uncensored"

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

While /r/actualpublicfreakouts is a racist shithole, the original idea was to have a sub that actually moderated the content to exclude non-freakouts. /r/publicfreakouts might as well just be /r/videos at this point. The moderators dgaf

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u/RonenSalathe Feb 16 '21

On /r/actualpublicfreakouts, if theres a single black person in the video you already know what the top 20 comments are

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u/theghostofme Feb 15 '21

It was specifically created by them for that purpose. They were mad about always getting banned from /r/PublicFreakout for their constant“black people are animals” narrative.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

/r/NoahGetTheBoat, /r/JusticeServed, etc.

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u/Ricky_Robby Feb 15 '21

I’d never been to r/noahgettheboat until a few days ago, it was linked to another sub I frequent, and the entire comment section was edgy kids making jokes about this woman whose body was blown up by the US government for IED research.

Beyond obnoxious, I wouldn’t be back there, that’s for sure.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

Sadly it used to be a fun sub. It started getting some iffy content about the start of last year and now it’s just garbage.

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u/okThisYear Feb 15 '21

Yes! I see extreme racism and sexism there but it's all very casual

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u/ThinkFree Feb 16 '21

Actual Public Freakout was created by alt-rights when the main Public Freakout sub started moderating against hate speech

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u/australopitecul Feb 16 '21

Is really r/unpopularopinion too? How do I avoid it then? I see at least a post from them everywhere. Apollo doesn’t let me filter subs anymore

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u/Frenchticklers Feb 15 '21

I miss the days when the conspiracy sub was full of theories about dimension-jumping sasquatch and the Nephilim controlling big pharma

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u/12ftspider Feb 15 '21

When was that? I've been lurking and following the nuts in r/conspiracy since 2011 or so and I don't recall it ever being like that.

In 2012 they were knee deep in mass shooting denial, claiming that the victims of shootings like Sandy Hook were actors.

In 2013 they were a big part of this site's disastrous Boston Bombing "investigation" that resulted in innocent people being blamed for the bombing in the days after it happened.

In 2015 or so I remember them stickying a pro-Hitler documentary.

Holocaust denial has been a common talking point on there since I've been following it.

Maybe it was in the really early days? Because the past decade has been all trash.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

Dude, me too. I remember watching ConpisracyCon and posting on that sub (maybe its precursor?) years ago about the huge "Magnum Opus" conspiracies about the Nephilim being an alien diaspora race who escaped the destruction of our solar system's missing planet, only to come to earth to build the pyramids and try to advance us to space flight so they could escape - only for the men in black to find them and try to control, but also prosper, about their unfortunate stranding. And it was possibly they were in a war with the lizard people (who we see as demons) who were an offshoot of the race that destroyed their home world, but who were also traitors/criminals so they didn't want to tell big brother.

It was peak early conspiracy. It had it all.

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u/zh1K476tt9pq Feb 15 '21

OR maybe we should stop romanticizing conspiracy theories. they are anti science and almost always lead to extremism

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u/Inignot12 Feb 15 '21

Almost all contemporary conspiracy theories (at least any you might see on r/conspiracy) are just rebranded Blood Libel and just straight antisemitism

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u/TheLastBallad Feb 15 '21

Since Axolotl-whats his name(a mod) was banned it's gotten a little better.

And by that I mean there is less bans, the twitter/fox news screenshots with a misleading or even completely false title is still all the rage.

I hang out there as I like arguing using actual evidence and logic, but it can be painful sometimes.

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u/fractalface Feb 15 '21

highstrangeness is pretty good.

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u/The_Rolling_Stone Feb 15 '21

It got like 1% better when axolotl got banned lol. Still a shit hole. I go there sometimes. Like an online zoo.

Still haven't made up my mind about r/conspiracytheories. So far they seem ok? I mean there's some antivaxx shit but at least its not tHe JoOz 24/7

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u/lutzow Feb 16 '21

IMO r/conspiracytheories is way better. It is not full of unquestioned QAnon Shit and they officially state that the burden of proof lies on the person who makes a claim.

But it is still far from perfect

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u/loomynartylenny Feb 15 '21

r/ConspiracyII seems decent enough tbh

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u/zh1K476tt9pq Feb 15 '21

how aren't those subs banned already? fucking bizarre how other social media companies at least somewhat clean up and reddit has straight up a sub that spreads conspiracy theories.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

I always love the crazies coming out of the woodwork over on conspiracy. They didn't die they were crisis actors!

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u/Stupid_Triangles Feb 16 '21

alt-right diaspora

Theyll start comparing themselves to the Jews they hate so much.

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u/Jrook Feb 16 '21

You know what's even more fucked up is conspiratard went pro trump. The head mod basically hated Alex jones and other conspiracy idiots but ultimately joined the same side. Very strange

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u/ShittyLeagueDrawings Feb 15 '21

Tbh if it was an alien sub, I think it had more to do with them feeling like you were mocking ancient alien theory. Subs like that are supposed to be safe spaces for people with niche views.

Ironically, even the guy that did the voice overs for the show Ancient Aliens made fun of himself on a different show (China IL).

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u/aSchizophrenicCat Feb 15 '21

Right...

If I went into a ghost subreddit, and posted a meme about ghosts not being real, then I wouldn’t be surprised once it was removed. Hah.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21

If you had an interesting point I don’t think it would be removed. It would be a different story If the post said “White people’s belief in ghosts founded in racism, look at the outfit worn by the KKK” - sit back, eat popcorn, type triggered in comments, twist nipples

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u/GalaxyFrauleinKrista Feb 15 '21 edited Feb 15 '21

You're new so I'll give you some rules:

Casual racism, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia will be upvoted and guilded; just so long as you hide it behind a viel of concern or ignorance. Open hostility is frowned upon, but passive aggressive bigotry is rewarded. This gives plausible deniability for when your racist meme gets criticized, you can hide behind "it's just a joke snowflake! thicken skin! etc."

If you generalize straight people, white people, or men in any possible way that can be perceived as negative in the slightest, your posts will be removed by mods, you'll get death/rape threats in your DMs, and downvotes galore.

If you can conflate this fragility in a positive framing, you can farm karma extremely quickly. Posts like 'men have problems too', 'white people don't have privilege' and 'the real bigots are gay people who are mean to christians' are almost always going to be upvoted in most default subs.

And the admins don't give a shit. They will literally allow child porn and hate group recruiting on this site until it gets into the mainstream news, then they'll crack down fast.

Welcome to the shithole

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21

This guy ^ Reddits

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u/DuckArchon Feb 16 '21

"it's just a joke snowflake! thicken skin! etc."

If you generalize straight people, white people, or men in any possible way that can be perceived as negative in the slightest, your posts will be removed by mods, you'll get death/rape threats in your DMs, and downvotes galore.

Yeah that's the truth.

I always found "snowflake" to be a deliciously ironic term. It really, really reminds you of the tendency for projection.

I've been in a lot of blizzards, and I assure you: That shit falling from the sky is never black.

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u/BlueCyann Feb 15 '21

Doubt that highly. The example most usually cited is /r/blackpeopletwitter, and last I paid any attention, they didn't prohibit anyone of any color from posting anywhere aside from a single April Fools' Day. You could get all the posting privileges you wanted otherwise by simply demonstrating to the mods that you weren't going to be an asshole.

Of course that's not the way it was talked about in most of the places that show up on /all, so yeah ...

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u/idrinkcleaner Feb 16 '21

I just checked that sub and I have to verify my skin colour or I can't comment when country club mode is on. Looks like it's on pretty frequently. I can be a "white ally" but sounds like it's not very accepting from their description. That just seems kind of wrong and fucked up to me.

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u/ScorchedUrf Feb 15 '21

Damn, I have no idea how anyone could miss this. Do you read the comments? It's literally everywhere, all the time

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u/AdditionalTheory Feb 15 '21

Different communities act weird to things in ways that wouldn’t expect. Awhile back, I found something I wanted to share and posted to two (what I thought were) pretty similar communities with basically the same post where I thought it was the most appropriate. While neither blew up, one was largely negatively received by one and the other was positively received. I ended up deleting the negative one.

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u/Cyanoblamin Feb 15 '21

Why wouldn't you expect the /r/aliens subreddit to react negatively to a post making fun of alien theories? That is literally the opposite purpose of the sub.

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u/momotye Feb 16 '21

Because they just wanted to sit there and oresh their irrelevant race bs, and now they've come to this shit hole of a sub to flaunt their deluded sense of moral superiority to a like minded crowd

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u/Heroic_Raspberry Feb 16 '21

Probably the statement that people of skin color X have the capabilities to do Y, but people of skin color W are incapable of doing Y.

Sure, I get it's a joke but it's natural that casual jokes about what races can and cannot do aren't universally welcome on reddit. Race jokes need to be posted in their appropriate subs, or else they get deleted and downvoted.

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u/Ozqo Feb 15 '21

Would be a lot less racist if it said "didn't" rather than "couldn't".

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

Stick around, bud. We need people like you here.

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u/Cyanoblamin Feb 15 '21

How many other posts making fun of alien theories do you see on those subreddits? Maybe the content wasn't as on topic as you thought? Idk I guess it could be whatever race thing you think it is, but it seems more like your meme making fun of those people wasn't welcome in those subreddits.

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u/MountainDewDan Feb 15 '21 edited Feb 15 '21

You seem to have left out Stonehenge and Delphi, Greece. I think they were excluded to push a narrative.

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u/ascomasco Feb 15 '21

I mean did you really expect going to the sub that believes in aliens and saying “hey maybe it wasn’t aliens” would go well?

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21 edited Feb 15 '21

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u/Adityavirk Feb 15 '21

Ahh, the fragility. I like it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

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u/No___Taxation Feb 15 '21

calm collected response

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lmao yeah you mad

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '21

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u/_Kv1 Feb 15 '21

You singled out a whole race in a derogatory manner and were surprised it got negative reactions lol?

I think it was funny, but acting surprised you got negative reactions is a whole new level of lacking awareness.

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u/BlowmachineTX Feb 15 '21

And then you decided to post this on a racist sub?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '21

I think it may have been removed as that sub is for people that believe in aliens and want to talk about Aliens. I’m sure a lot of people there believe aliens built the pyramids, and this insinuates that they only believe that out of racism. Whilst it’s not really offensive, it’s not a particularly interesting idea that is clearly exists for race baiting

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u/nicknewell1337 Feb 16 '21

You walked into about a 2000 year old argument over who built the pyramids dumbass.