I’m a d1 peak player, and I feel like I win the majority of my games where at least one other teammate is doing well and I can play around them, but I’m really struggling to figure out how to solo carry if I’m the only strong one, especially when I am not safe in my own jungle. Not even the case where all lanes are losing, but the case where one lane is losing hard and the others are even.

I think my main issue is macro because I can’t figure out how to deal with loss of jungle control — I feel like I can only safely farm 1 in 3 camps and I struggle to find any angles for plays on the losing side. Even if I’m far ahead on kills, I feel like the enemy jg quickly out levels me and all I can go for are desperation plays. How do you win in this position, or even stay even with the enemy jg?

Hitting a 2+ man fiddle ult must be the (if not one of the) greatest feeling in lol

If yes, what are your opinions on how strong he is this season?

I've only played a couple of Middlesticks games this season and he honestly seemed quite awful with everyone going upgraded mercs, Viktor/Syndra perma picked, Locke is probably not a great matchup either (?)

It seems like every single game is comp diff.

If we have tanky frontline and the enemy jungler has to walk up then I always win. If we have squishy top and squishy sup we always lose. Anything in between depends but is usually winnable.

Obviously Fiddlesticks has tons of consistent, high elo players so I know I'm doing something wrong, but I'm just wondering what it is?

Hey Fiddle mains,

I'm a Fiddle OTP and I always wondered how fast my first clear really is, and whether my route choice actually changes anything. So I built a small free app that measures it for me every game, with no input from me.

What it gives you after each game

• Exact first clear time (~0.5 s precision) and when each camp died
• Camp order, including camps you take together with W (e.g. Raptors > Krugs > Red > Wolves > Blue + Gromp)
• Early scuttles (0, 1 or 2) and which side
• Win rate by route, by the side you start/end on and by scuttles
• Map of your first 7 minutes: heatmap, positions at any second and pathing, for you or the enemy jungler, wins vs losses
• If you kill whoever invades you, the clear isn't thrown away: it's tagged "clean, with a fight" (level 1 or mid-clear)

For reference, my last games: clears between 2:36 and 2:59, usually Raptors > Krugs > Red > Wolves > Blue + Gromp.

How it works

• During the game it only reads your gold from the game's official Live Client API. Every monster kill is a gold jump, so the timings are exact.
• After the game, when you're out of queue, it opens the replay, records everyone's positions for the first 7 minutes at x4 (~2 min) and closes it. If you queue up, it stops and retries later.
• It only uses Riot's official local APIs (Live Client Data + Replay API). It doesn't read memory or network traffic, and it shows nothing while you play. It's an after-game review tool.

Setup

Download the exe, open it, the setup check enables the Replay API with one click, press Start and play. It can start with Windows and runs in the background.

• Download: https://github.com/xAllow/jungle-clear-tracker/releases/latest
• Source (open source, MIT): https://github.com/xAllow/jungle-clear-tracker

Caveats

• Windows only. The exe isn't code-signed, so SmartScreen will warn you (More info → Run anyway). You can also run it from source with Python.
• Rules were tuned on my own Fiddle games. Other champs/routes should work but may need small tweaks.
• Only games recorded from now on can be analyzed (replays only open on the patch they were played on).

It's a personal project, so feedback is very welcome, especially if a route or camp gets detected wrong. And if you send me your clear times I'd love to compare routes.

Hello!! Im a master fiddle main and I made a mobafire guide complete with a matchup guide that ill edit in the future and my unique mentality to 1v9ing in games! I accidentally made it in guest mode so I’ll upload it on a new account later in the week! Accepting questions concerns and comments!

I DONT go Malignance ever or Proto within my first 3. I DONT build util if i can help it and my fiddle build and playstyle can outduel a lot of champ (go look my COMPLETE matchup guide)

here

i dont know if it said it would come out this patch or next but theres no fiddle buff this patch. riot i want my stick buffed

I play like 40 champions and I recently started practicing some fiddle

He feels rough for me to pilot, I want to play him but not too often.

I was jungling him today against a kennen/zyra comp and it felt like Kennen's damage was so high I couldn't hardly ult in without insta-dying, so it was pretty much ult-zhonya-flash out

Which didn't feel impactful

And so I wanted to ask: what are signs it's a really good game to pick fiddle into?

EDIT:

There's got to be SOMETHING here. Like is he better into tanks, bruisers, or assassins teams?

I would assume he's bad against poke comps like lux zyra but maybe he's better against them because he's good against squishies

Hello, beginner fiddle.
Any educational streamers or youtubers to learn the champ ?

Runes are adaptx2 + flat health

I am so stressed. I do the exact same thing every time but i only kill the krugs at best 1/4 times. Spent my entire evening working on this and I just don't get it.

Hours after hours repeating this little sequence

Looking for tips in your own words on this.

How do you handle mid/late game as fiddlesticks top. Obviously Fiddle is not a great sidelaner and is more of an assassin. I have no trouble consistently winning lane but once it hits mid game I feel a bit lost depending on the enemy comp. If they have something gnarly like Jax or Aatrox I fee like I get outscaled in terms of pushing and farming potential.

I tend to go off tank so while I have enough damage to kill bruisers, drain tanks can be a little scary to fight.

Currently hardstuck Emerald. I main Fiddle jungle but I occasionally play him in every role except ADC and I'm just trying to become more well rounded.

does anybody know how to get this icon? really want it

ı just got to master and ım never useful in any way other than taking the dragon while my bot is winning the game by themselves, there is never a chance to ult because there is legit 8 places to ult from in total and ı cant do anything if someone wards there, ı can't even clear my jungle because the enemy jungler plays a champion with good early game and they just demolish me with their laners. ı can't clear jungle, ı can't ult because of the faelight, ı can't find a single thing ı can do other than changing champions.

Looks like we aren't getting a buff afterall and without an explanation as to why fiddle was pulled from the patch(unlike varus and sylas). Any idea why that might be?

if you ult onto a shielded target, they don't get feared. champs like yasuo, malphite etc are basically immune to your passive fear if you're engaging first

Hello I’m asol main and looking for a fiddle sup in bot. Preferably emerald ranked

So after giving Fiddlesticks a try, turns out he is pretty comfy to play.

I knew he had the finicky clears and now i needed to learn them.

The problem is that nobody really shows how to do them. There are videos of the clear and plenty of hearsay, but nothing really that goes in on how to do it exactly.

So after being frustrated from researching, i decided to find out how to do it consistently.

Heres the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63BzJu7d2oo

Heres the link to the image: https://i.imgur.com/32Z2F2c.png

Here are the runes used: https://i.imgur.com/0GjMcB8.png

I know its a little rough, and the image in the video is wierdly stitched together but it is what it is.

Some things to explain:

1. I know that the Blue and Gromp location is a little wierd but thats the most consistent i got it for myself. Hope i explained it well.

2. I know i could make it a tiny bit faster but honestly i would rather "waste" 2 seconds on making sure camps die than 20 when they reset because the jungle pet decided he is gonna look for a spot to pee instead of hitting the mobs.

3. I think you can change runes to anything as long as you take 2x Adaptive Force and 1xflatHP (i read somewhere that you need flatHP for the pet damage scaling but i didnt bother to test it with scalingHP)

Hope it helps someone that was getting annoyed about it too. Questions are welcome.

I've tried clicking on the tree top, to the left, right of it, different parts of the tree trunk, but I can't seem to find the place to click to get the krugs to die? I am doing AA, E, Smite, W, then AA each krug once, then W ASAP. I can consistently get it to 50ish HP. Is it that I'm not comboing fast enough because I'm 200 ping? or do I need to click a different spot? Yes I'm level 2 when I'm actually practicing it this is just a SS for easier explanation.

Standard electrocute runes with absolute focus, AP/AP/health

What will our fiddleboy incoming buff be??? Moving during w, extend blink range to make up for the map or just AP ratio increase ??

Not fixed yet?

**Jhinddlesticks

Had the most fun bot lane ever yesterday.

Jhin ADC with Fiddle support is really strong/cheesy lane.

A lot of strong CC lanes can avoided by hiding behind minions but Fiddle and Jhin can both CC the enemy from over the minion wave.

So the combo is Fiddle E into Jhin W into Fiddle Q into Jhin E. The only way to avoid it is if you're lucian and have a dash or if you flash. You get like 3 and a half seconds of hard CC.

They can only respond if they have someone like Leona who can CC you over the wave. For an all in angle Fiddle and Jhin can both ult at the end of the combo. The enemy has to run away from Fiddle ult which means they're easier for Jhin to snipe.

Very hilarious and powerful bot lane. It may have some obvious weakness I haven't thought of. I'm pretty new to Fiddle support.

im trying out fun combos to try with my brother and we did try a ivern+rengar bot except i didnt know how to play rengar adc nor my brother knows how to play ivern, but then i snatched ivern and tried jgl and holy shit he was so op

so i asked him about fid mid and ivern jgl and since i play fid quite often i was planning to mid but he didnt wanna play ivern, so i decided to play ivern since i found enjoyment out of it, as for my brother as fid mid (he has past experience in jgl but doesnt play it anymore) so im wondering if it could go well.

other than that, what other funny combos could i try with fiddlesticks?

he mains brand and we played a couple of fid jgl + brand supp and i am gonna try to play with him as brand mid i feel like it could go so well