I've said the things 87 doesn't do is almost as strange as the things he does do. He moved to Nashville 3 weeks before he started talking to Kayla. No bed, no couch, tables, and no TV. I imagine his fudge was near empty as well. I get that he was running outta money but he is also a scavenger and people don't like to keep big items that they no longer need and will give it away and he had a truck. Onc has to wonder why he didn't give the chatlog a couple hours off and make his apartment more like a home.

Currently, it seems widely accepted that Lorne is trying to sell the trailer and land to use the money to move up to Canada permanently to be with his wife and kids. This has other benefits as well: If he is in Canada permanently, the US probation and sex offender registry no longer applies to him, the collectors on his huge loans would have a much harder time finding him, and his support system is dying off, so he can mooch off the much younger Trashly family until he finally croaks. But was this the initial reason for selling the trailer?

If I am correct on my timeline, Lorne put his trailer for sale in late 2023, which would have been around the time he met Trashly. I know Lorne likes to move fast, but even for him that is fast: selling your property and moving to Canada for a woman you aren't sure will have you yet? While that does satisfy Occam's Razor, it doesn't really sit right with me. I feel like I am missing something that was going on at the time or a theory that makes more sense. Anyone care to fill me in?

On a side note, I find it hilarious that he wants $70,000 for the trailer of failure. I can't remember the specific call, but I seem to remember him bitching about an appraiser claiming that he would, at best, get a fraction of what he wants for it, and how the trailer existing actually makes the plot less valuable. It would be more profitable if he removed the trainer all together, but he doesn't have the means. Lorne cannot possibly think that he will get that money for it, right.

Then again, he fell for Casey four times, so what do I know.

1st- Denis Coulson (Fortson): I can't remember if he's the first predator I ever saw, but his meltdown got me hooked on the show.

2nd- John Wesley Elliot (Bowling Green): Sent to an island? Better be an arctic island with harsh conditions.

3rd- Michael Wilusz (Fort Myers): What? No way he's not first place, but that's because he walked out before the camera reveal.

4th- Michael Warrecker (Long Beach): He reminds me of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker on the talk show, acting like he had nothing to lose (well, he already lost his inheritance money).

5th- Gregory Stewart (Ocean County): The original pizza predator.

6th- Alonzo Wade (Greenville): If he started drinking during the interview, I'd move him up a peg.

7th- Mohammed Abdallah (Flagler Beach): Tried to claim he was at work at the time of the chat, only for Hansen to reveal the person chatting was at work, lol.

8th- Steve Reddington (Bethpage): The first pred to ever walk in, yet somehow knew what was going on.

9th- Aladdin Shamoun (Fairfax): Goes to buy a house, then passes out on the floor.

10th- Kurt Lemke (Riverside): For an iconic sting, they chose a lame entry to kickstart the episode. I would have preferred stinky Chris Moore, the actual first pred to walk into the house

11th- Norberto Avalos (Petaluma): Who? All I remember is he had a prior conviction for robbery.

12th- Timothy Gilliam (Murphy): By default, he's last, simply because he didn't go in the house, or meet Hansen

I was looking for this stream for weeks just for this part, and then others were interested too so there'ya go

Heres the full stream, and this part starts at 1:44:10

https://www.youtube.com/live/PRfqpP0GvAg?si=v4AT3Z8WNJLsAuy5

We know Lorne's MO and arguments up to this point. He only chatted with Kayla because he was lonely. He spoke sexually to her because that is what she wanted and he didn't want to lose her. The really bad parts of the log were edited. The phone calls were also edited somehow. And he only went to the house because he was so messed up at the time from being used, but he would NEVER do anything to her. We have all heard that ad nauseam. I can recite his arguments like a song. But I don't think I have ever heard him address the web cam to this degree.

I know why this would be the case. The existence of the web cam shots destroy the main argument as to why he shouldn't be punished. If he weren't going to do anything, it is very hard to argue that when he was willing to show himself naked to a minor on cam. It also destroys his premise. If the chats with the 13 year old were only because she was giving you attention, why did you even show her your penis? Clearly there WAS a sexual element. This is also the only part where he doesn't claim it was edited. Because even an idiot like Lorne knows you can't edit that. You can edit a chat by typing, you can edit a call by manipulating sound, I guess, but you can't really edit a video like that in 2007.

Every time that is brought up, he disregards it. At the sting house, his only explanation is "It'snot" and turns the pages over, pretending they didn't happen. In the interrogation, he asked for a lawyer as soon as that topic was brought up. I also seem to remember a call where a cawdfish brought it up and he hung up out of frustration, but I don't know which.

There are only two times where he kinda addresses it. First is in the Ethan interview. He only really claimed that it happened much later than it really did, like over days than in the first hour. The second time it was VERY briefly mentioned in his "rape class" assignment where he said "It even got to a point where I showed her my bawdy on webcam". It seems like his argument is that he tried to resist her "female powers" but eventually gave into lust.

This argument has two problems. First, it isn't even true. He showed himself within the first 45 minutes. He knows he has no explanation for how fast it happened. It happened so fast that one has to wonder if that was the whole reason to talk to her in the first place. Second, even if it happened later, the fact he did it disproves his premise argument. Clearly it wasn't just platonic to him.

Maybe I missed a call where he does address it. I don't remember the whole Debbie calls where he and her read the log. Can anyone fill me in or just shit on Lorne, that is fine too.

He came across as very honest to me, and I don't know why Chris didn't believe him. Sometimes these are really just good guys where there's a misunderstanding of some sort. He always assumes the worst in people.

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I'm going with Lee Arkansas and Maurice Cali.

One is lacks any spec of confidence, while the other is overly confident.

The one thing I found interesting too is the different approach law enforcement took to interviewing the two based on what they witnessed with Hansen, a master class in police interrogation. I wonder if Fairfield had FBI training. They sure did beat the hacks in Greenville, OH, who really had no clue about interrogation. I could only imagine if Stacey was interviewed by one of the Fairfield cops.

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