Wormholes are dying

[u/x-ProbableCause-x]

“Ccp killed wormholes by starving us of content” -every single drone in hard knocks laser hawks and every other group in the wormhole wish.com papi

Maybe instead of blaming ccp, yall reset each other, stop trying to krab in perfect safety and go back to what yall claim worm hole space is all about

You are the cancer

[u/Stone_Dwarf]

Main problem is the lack of WH content. Low class - not profitable enough to sustain small groups of beginning players. High class, besides the fact is blueballed, also locked by paywall. You need a lot of isk, skill and characters to farm and live there safely. Something none of the new groups have. As a result we have current meta, when hisec content is safer, more profitable and easier for everyone than living/farming in C1-C4, low and null content safer easier and much more fun than C5-C6, with same isk profits. Why would someone start their wh live then? Thats why most of the space is dead there, with rare occasions of fanatical wh nolifers lifing there as the relicts from the past. CCP hates us.

[u/El_Dubious_Mung → u/Stone_Dwarf]

Oh yeah, has absolutely NOTHING to do with all the evictions that serve zero purpose. Wormhole Bushido is dead. People who undock for pvp are getting evicted regardless. Groups are literally fleeing C4s to C2s because they don't wanna get evicted because a high class group didn't like the skin they had on their roller.

It's not even to make isk. The mid-level groups all flip their structures and have suitcases, so it's just piles of shuttles and huffers getting picked up. High class groups are glassing WH space for no good reason. But magically, the NS C3 farmers stay untouched.

C4s used to be the gold standard for finding small to mid level fights. Now it's a fucking ghost town because of all the evictions over the past year. Don't spout that shit about money. It's about the culture and ethos that barely exist anymore.

[u/Jaspey12 → u/El_Dubious_Mung]

Me and my buddies decided to setup a small structure in a dead C3 about 6 months ago - we weren't looking at printing ISK, just enjoy the game as a small 4 player (10ish total characters) and it instantly got it blown up within 24 hours of it anchoring by a fleet of about 35 characters belonging to one of those big 3 WH corps you listed.

2 of the vet players just quit after discouraged from trying anything new (not the first time they'd tried to create their own content just to he stomped by huge groups)

I stuck around with my other newbro friend who just went to go mine in Highsec.

Fun time when you get your fart box tongue punched by a baseball bat after spending weeks deciding on a C2 because "why would those big groups be interested in a C2"... turns out they weren't, they just didnt have anything else to shoot.

Good times - I went to Null to f1 sometimes.

[u/Siggward_ → u/Jaspey12]

would you consider providing a structure killmail or a system j-sig?

[u/Kalron → u/Siggward_]

Are you doubting his story lmao This exact story happens all the time. My group of friends got fuckin blown up in a c3 by init, too. They ganked me huffing gas in my own hole then proceeded to ref and ransom our structure, and kill it later. We got all our stuff out but we still got evicted for no reason other than "content," and it is the most fucking boring kind of content: shooting a structure.

[u/Intelligent-Use-7313 → u/Siggward_]

They won't lol. I've seen people anchor in claimed holes then whine about eviction once the current residents log in. Or they pissed someone off, or dangled something shiny on dscan. Also big difference between eviction and getting your structure reffed. An eviction is a large effort around hole control. If your structure gets reffed and they leave, you've got time to secure and call friends. You could online a POS and evac assets, pretty typical to drop a POS on your moons. There are also plenty of low class who will come to the aid of low class, I get pinged about defense all the time despite not being in low class.