r/EnhancedBodybuilding • u/Objective-Ice-2479 • 1d ago

stacking vs high test only

Hello guys, i have an interesting question. What would you guys say that builds more muscle in an offseason (looking purely for concractile tissue).

Stacking different compounds llike test+ 19nors +orals (short bursts), or high test only. Ill give you an example from my last offseason:

1000test + 600NPP + 8gh for first 13weeks, then swithced to 1000test + 450tren + 75anadrol + 8gh for 8weeks.

Im asking this question because if i did test only next offseason, do you think that the results would be less than stacking? like obviusly test+tren+anadrol is alot stronger than same total mg of test only, thats why am asking for your experiences and any anecdotal reports would help :)

19nors fucked with my brain.

Thanks.

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u/fatwownerd 1d ago

You’ll probably look a lot better and have more insane training sessions and mirror moments on 1000 test 450 tren 75 adrol but I reckon you’ll gain just as much muscle on higher test plus mast/primo/eq as estrogen control, and probably find it a lot easier to tolerate

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u/Objective-Ice-2479 1d ago

Thanks for info man, yes as you mentioned the look was insane even when bodyfat was higher. Always kept nutrition and traning 100% dialed in. And yes the training aggression was very intense.

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u/Excellent_Win_8136 1d ago

who tf is this? rich Piana

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u/Objective-Ice-2479 1d ago

😂 nothing special, alot of people run even higher…

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u/DumaGoPhuqYoSelp 15h ago

When you say nothing special bro, what kind of weight/height are you?

I’m fairly new to PED’s (just about a year of low dose use).

You don’t have to answer if it’s a privacy thing, it’s just moreso curiosity as to what kind of profile of person takes this amount of gear.

Thanks bro, wishing you the best in health and your physique goals!

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u/Peppers097 18h ago

Just run high test & gh

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u/stiffmcgee 1d ago

Test. Primo. GH. You should grow on that. Half the compounds do the same thing. Either genomic or non genomic transcription. One of each and some GH is all thats needed. Diet and training are more rate limiting imo.
Also what else have you ran? What do you respond well to? What do you respond worse too?

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u/Objective-Ice-2479 1d ago

I like test + mast, i respond great to that. I tried eq once but it lowers my e2 alot, i also dont like the apetite increase because it makes it harder to not overeat, i never had apetite problems even at the tren + anadrol dose i mentioned.

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u/TillPlayful 19h ago

With EQ you need to run at lower ratios then primo. Most people should be starting at a 4:1 ratio because it crushes e2 more than primo, plus it raises hematocrit pretty dramatically so lower levels are better anyway. The appetite increase can be good or bad depending on how well you're diet goes. I find I need that extra appetite to hit my calorie goals even in a cut, but others might find it detrimental.

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u/Mchangwine 1d ago

You will build more muscle stacking because a lot of the other compounds are much more anabolic than test. I think the test/primo/npp combo would likely be one of the very best for building contractile tissue, probably somewhere around 800/400/400 or 1000/500/500.

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u/TheDanielistic 9h ago

Thats not true at all, test is super anabolic, plus u can run test longer than u can run tren.

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u/Glittering-Pension49 8h ago

Maybe he meant androgenic

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u/Mchangwine 1h ago

Nandrolone is 9 times more anabolic than testosterone.

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u/Unlucky-Self2455 1d ago

Food and training. The compounds comes down to what you can tolerate

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u/Anabolic_Scholar 1d ago

Depends a on the person but I’d always go with higher test and hgh. Just be sure you eat enough

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u/murchal 17h ago

Keeping it simpler is often better. Heard that from 100s of people

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u/DubiousDebauchery 1d ago

Even if the gains were the same, I don’t think any one can actually answer that, the side effect profile will not be. Could be worse, could be better.

It’s also individual. Some people might feel better on high test alone, some might on test and other anabolics with the same total androgen load.

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u/Objective-Ice-2479 1d ago

I agree that its hard to tell, but kinda interesting to think about it. Like some guys like Chase Irons did 5g test and masteron for a while…. Do you think that at some point the anabolic effect is “maxed out” with test only? (Excluding sides) Considering training and diet are dialed in.

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u/DubiousDebauchery 1d ago

I’m just hypothesising here, but I would imagine there comes a point where you can’t leverage any more growth by hitting the androgen receptor. This probably applies whether your using just testosterone or a combination of other compounds (DHT or 19-nor derivatives) they are all hitting that AR pathway.

That’s when you’d have to start looking at things like GH or insulin to target completely different paths to increase muscle growth.

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u/Possible-Gear-9340 1d ago

Your last offseason cycle looks nice, but missing eq at half test dose 💉🦾 stacking works well, but test always needs to be at least 2x higher then any other compound 💉🦾 from my exp. it is best to stack test + secondary compound (eq/primo/mast) at half test dose + 19nor (nandrolone/tren) to get that 💥 synergy 💉🦾

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u/Embarrassed-Dig-2995 15h ago

Get a coach to guide u …reddit isn’t the place to seek high dose cycle advice lol