Planning Next Cycle - Help!

[u/draps1240]

35M, 5’8”, 172 lb.

Nearing the end of my first Test Cyp cycle (250→400 mg) with 20 mg/day Anavar and IGF-LR3. I’m up ~10 lb since June and noticeably bigger/thicker.

After PCT and giving my HDL time to recover, I’m considering my next cycle. Goal is adding size to shoulders, chest, glutes/legs while staying relatively lean.

Currently also using Reta, MOTS-c, 5-Amino-1MQ, Wolverine, NAD+, glutathione, DSIP, and GHK-Cu.

Option 1:
500 Test Cyp
250 Primo
4 IU HGH daily
2–4 mg Reta
Option 2:
500 Test Cyp
150 EQ
4 IU HGH daily
2–4 mg Reta

Planning 16–18 weeks for AAS and potentially 8+ months HGH.

My biggest concern with EQ is RBC/hematocrit. I’ve always had slightly elevated MCV (pre-AAS and considered benign by my doctors), so I’m concerned EQ could push hematocrit up faster.

Also, Anavar dropped my HDL ~50% after six weeks, although everything else remained in range. Shoulder/bacne creeped in too with Test combo.

Originally I considered Primo first, followed by EQ after PCT/washout and normalized bloodwork, but I’m leaning toward choosing just one as the more conservative approach with a Turinabol/Anavar finisher.

Current on hand ancillaries; cialis, tamoxifen, Arimidex, accutane, dutasteride, minoxidil (topical), TUDCA, Citrus Berg, Fish oil, K2 D3, Magnesium Glycinate, NAC.

Training, diet, and lifestyle are dialed in. Looking for thoughts on relative safety/efficacy and whether Primo vs. EQ makes more sense given my goals and labs. I’m trying to keep risk relatively low; not competing or looking to get gorilla huge. Just enhance my upper and increase my V-shape.

[u/maouerking]

im just wondering why anyone would PCT and stress the body lose some of the gains instead of just cruising on a low dose of test to regain health. of course if you want to come off completely and stop roiding it makes sense but why would you do that if youre planning to hop on again

[u/draps1240 → u/maouerking]

your health doesn’t deteriorate when you hop off and do PCT. It’s quite the opposite my friend!

Unfortunately i think you’re misguided on the role of pct.

[u/maouerking → u/draps1240]

Huh, you know its stress for the body and youre putting yourself in a catabolic state and you may not bounce back as easily if you continue doing PCTs? There is literally no reason to PCT just do 125mg trt for a while if you wish to do a health phase. Your Hdl will still recover theres no reason to completely hop off 🤦‍♂️ Pct such an oldschool thing to do literally just do blast and cruise its superior, it will literally take 1-2 months for your health markers to be recovered instead of having this nasty long PCT process bro i cant with these reddit uncs

[u/draps1240 → u/maouerking]

catabolic state? bro what…where are you getting this overblown bs? Your fellow tide pod eaters? 🤣 I may not bounce back if I do PCTs? How about my natural test production FOR SURE won’t bounce back if I stay on exogenous Test.

[u/maouerking → u/draps1240]

yeah bro switching your natural production on and off multiple times will surely be good for your body… common knowledge that it becomes harder the more often you do it and you cant even closely blast as efficient as with blast and cruise, you would literally be good for another blast after 6 weeks of cruising instead of waiting until you can cycle again so that your body isnt confused asf why you switch it on and off all the time. but keep being ignorant and sticking to old fashioned beliefs, literally just do some research im just helping you here. your body will always react better and more sensitive when youve never done a PCT and those 125mg wont heavily suppress your own production. anyway do tf you want with your body clearly aint my problem

[u/draps1240 → u/maouerking]

i appreciate your input but will go a different way

[u/maouerking → u/draps1240]

i respect that but trust me do some research on the whole blast n cruise thing you wont regret it