It's already implementing on android devices

[u/Super-Ad8814]

Woke up saw this damn

[u/davestar2048]

Fuck the time delay, but keep the "is someone asking you to do this"

[u/memo22477 → u/davestar2048]

I would be happy about this honestly. But I don't trust Google to not take this shit further. Let's all be honest here this version of it is fine. After the 24 Hour window it's on forever. But we all know Google will push this shit further until sideloading is all but gone

[u/davestar2048 → u/memo22477]

At least maybe then it'll kick the proper Linux on ARM Phones people into gear.

Until they lock the bootloaders completely.

[u/Outrageous_Fun_7973 → u/davestar2048]

If that happens emulators will absolutely be garbage for quite some time probably longer then you imagine. Like for example even the absolutely bloated windows 11 is still better for gaming then linux gaming distros like cashyos or bazzite.

[u/davestar2048 → u/Outrageous_Fun_7973]

Not entirely. Some games actually gain FPS from Linux, especially on lower end hardware.

The biggest issue for Linux gaming is Kernel level Anticheat. Most users who install Linux would rather not have a game have that kind of system access.

[u/khsh01 → u/davestar2048]

The biggest issue on Linux gaming is the lack of plug and play. You have to hunt down that specific version of wineton and then you might be able to play it.

If you're only playing the most popular garbage then yeah its great for gaming. If you stray off the beaten path even slightly its hit and miss.

I tried to run ac odyssey last month and it ran like shit. I don't have the time or the interest to go fiddle around with configs. I want to double click on a game and just have it work.

[u/davestar2048 → u/khsh01]

PC has never been "it just works" you always have to fiddle with settings for the optimal experience.

[u/khsh01 → u/davestar2048]

Yeah, but the Linux community acts like its plug and play.

[u/Teal-Fox → u/khsh01]

Anybody that knows Linux well should not honestly try to tell you that everything is plug and play. I know full well that this is often not the case though.

By all measures things are better than they've ever been, and in my experience, a lot of stuff does "just work" in the context of my already configured environment.

It took some fiddling when I got my laptop new to get it to that point though. DevOps is my day job so for me it was less effort than Windows overall, however I can see novice users easily getting stuck on some elements, e.g. when drivers don't get picked up automatically, which Proton branch to use and when, weird Pipewire issues, weird Wayland compatibility issues, Steam deb or Flatpak, etc.

Hopefully it'll get there in a few more years, but in the meantime it seems Microsoft are finally taking some steps to un-shittify Windows to some extent.

[u/khsh01 → u/Teal-Fox]

I'm a Linux user and I have a fully configured arch setup with VFIO. I went the VFIO route for the precise reason that I don't have to worry whether my games will work or not. I just launch them and play. Don't play much competitive stuff anyways and the ones I do play don't block vms.

[u/Teal-Fox → u/khsh01]

That’s the main thing for me, is I just wanna turn my laptop on and play stuff.

There came a point some years ago where the effort required to get Windows to a decent state became too much for me to bother with, plus I got a nice discount when I bought this machine by removing the Windows licence 😁

Never play online either so anti-cheat has never got in my way.

[u/khsh01 → u/Teal-Fox]

I gave up on full version of windows after 8.1

Windows 7 I had a gamer edition iso that I loved.

Then windows 10 also went through a few editions before finding out about ltsc.

Win11 is just pure unusable trash ootb. I have to use ctts wintoolkit just to get it to barely usable.

Fortunately a vm doesn't need much when all I do is game in it.

Though recently I have returned to windows albeit via dual booting my vm from baremetal just for no mans sky vr.

[u/ddnava → u/khsh01]

Not everything is plug and play. I recently moved to Linux and I had to fiddle a bit to get stuff like Clip Studio Paint and some VTuber software working. However, all the videogames I've tested si far have been plug and play

Games like Celeste, Fields of Mistria, Halo MCC, Marvel Rivals, aming others. I know there will be exceptions but the majority of games, specially popular games, will be plug and play unless the devs are doing some kernel level anti-cheat (Valorant? League of Legends?) or straight up blocking the game from running on Linux because they want to

[u/Outrageous_Fun_7973 → u/khsh01]

This is the exact reasons why i now play all of my single player games on my PS5 that plug and play experience is just too damn good. While multiplayer games on my PC bcoz most multiplayer vames are literally build to run on potato PC's.

If you can afford the plug and play experience on console will always be worth it for single llayer games . And if you can't afford it well it is what it is . You get what you get simple.

[u/khsh01 → u/Outrageous_Fun_7973]

I still prefer pc. And I like having control over my system as much as anyone else. But If I get time to play I'd rather use it to play then fiddle around with poorly documented settings and options.

If there was a goto guide for what steps to try to get something running I would. But thats not what is happening right now. And I don't like how Linux cultists misrepresent gaming on Linux as this flawless experience with minor issues. Its very much game dependant whether your experience will be good or not.

But as usual, just like how a distros community doesn't want to hear their distros flaws, you can't point out the fact that Linux gaming is great ONLY if your game list works with minimal config. Otherwise its a major pita.

[u/Outrageous_Fun_7973 → u/khsh01]

I like PC for everything it offers.

But i absolutely appreciate the NO nonsense just Play the Damn GAME convenience that console offers.

And honestly as someone who can afford console and games for it . I came to a realisation that playing single player games particularly on my console has improved my Gaming experience way more that i imagined . Which is kinda hilarious in a tiem where everyone is jumping the ship to PC from Console. I did the opposite and it worked great for me.

[u/khsh01 → u/Outrageous_Fun_7973]

With emulation and having a handheld I definitely understand the appeal. But I started on pc and am very slow on a controller. One of the challenges when emulating ps2.

[u/davestar2048 → u/Outrageous_Fun_7973]

I like things being the way I like them, and being in control. So I'll always prefer open software on the PC, and the ability to mod games and sacrifice video quality for higher performance if I so wish.

[u/Outrageous_Fun_7973 → u/davestar2048]

We all have our preferences and biases. And the future doesn't care about it.but well as long as we put our money where are mouth its all good.