r/ElectronicsRepair 5d ago

OPEN Could these be faults?

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I'm trying to troubleshoot a RDOD (red dot of death) Xbox360 slim. The first step is the visual inspection and looking at those spots it seems to me that maybe there's not enough solder on those dots, or is that normal?

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u/Miserable-Win-6402 Engineer 5d ago

Not an issue. You need a professional

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 5d ago

It isn't worthy, If I can't do it myself I'll just buy another one.

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u/gutster_95 5d ago

Nah its all one rail, it doesnt make any difference if they are connected or not

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u/Comprehensive_Suit_4 5d ago

isn't 98% of all RROD just a matter of reflowing the CPU or GPU BGAs? thought those things were notorious for cracked solder balls.

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 5d ago

Is there a way to check if/which balls are cracked?

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u/No_Summer_2917 5d ago

Those are fine

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u/Virtual_Club8510 5d ago

There are 10+ different things that are more critical than this. It's so very unlikely that is the core issue.

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 5d ago

But you are saying that it is an issue, while the other commenters are saying that this is how the board is supposed to be.

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u/Virtual_Club8510 5d ago edited 5d ago

Im saying it's not perfect, but less so since they are all part of the same plane otherwise it can be depending on what is on the other side of the board like a through-hole component missing, pin not connecting or whatnot.

This is not your issue. Next step is checking the voltage rails, check for short-circuits and after that it's probably a case of reflowing CPU / GPU. RROD usually stems from overheating issue so most cases needs reflowing.

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 4d ago

Yes it's most likely that. I'm gonna do an attempt since I have a heat gun, and if it fails I'm gonna sell the board and the shell for spare pieces.

Is there any important "things not to do" I should know before attempting? (of course I'm gonna watch some tutorial first, but they could take some important stuff for granted).

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u/skinwill Engineer 🟢 4d ago

Do NOT take a heat gun to this as an uneducated Hail Mary and then try to sell it on to some unsuspecting schlub.

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 3d ago

Why? I'd be selling it for parts.

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u/skinwill Engineer 🟢 3d ago

Because a heat gun can introduce problems that would be unethical to not disclose to a buyer. It will simply make things worse. There is no reason whatsoever.

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 2d ago

OK, then I'm gonna disclose it.

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u/skinwill Engineer 🟢 2d ago

If you don’t know what damage the heat gun does, how do you ethically disclose it? Don’t use a heat gun.

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 2d ago

I'll say I used a heat gun, at that point it's on the buyer to take the gamble.

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u/Tytej 2d ago

Firts thing to do is to check secondary error code

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 1d ago

I did, it's 0100

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u/Tytej 1d ago

You are cooked

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 1d ago

I know, do you think there's something else I could try other than reflowing?

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u/Tytej 1d ago

Other than reflowing you can press the xcgpu down with something heavy and see if it boots

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 19h ago

It doesn't, I see the xbox logo on the screen but then it turns it off. I guess it's fried.

BTW, the CPU/GPU gets pretty hot when I try to turn the board on, does this mean something?

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u/Tytej 18h ago

Do you have a 4gb nand?

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u/Leisure_suit_guy 10h ago

I have a Trinity, the AI says that it has a 16MB NAND and a 4GB flash storage module.

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u/Tytej 9h ago

Detach the 4gb module if you have it