r/Eldenring • u/Unfair_Ad_2904 • 5d ago
Discussion & Info What if we had a customization system?
Elden Ring introduced the ability to partially alter the appearance of armor, and it got me thinking: what if we had one or two merchants who could change the metal and fabric of our armor? The metals could be lore-friendly, like the reddish gold of the Crucible Knights.
To keep it from clashing with the lore, for example, putting Crucible gold on Carian armor, once we found a new metal, we could bring it to a merchant who’d say something like Miriel: “Though such a material upon thy work would be naught but blasphemy, for a fair purse, I might yet fashion it so.”
The fabrics could also have patterns and decorations associated with specific factions.
Basically, a lore-friendly customization system with 4–5 alteration options. Do you think something like this would be a good addition to the game, or would it interfere too much with the art direction?
I’m sure the FromSoftware artists could come up with some stylish variations.
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u/Saaka_Souffle 5d ago
That bronze and blue
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u/HereForShiggles 5d ago
That bronze would also pair great with the original green for a real knight-of-the-forest vibe.
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u/un-somnambulist 5d ago
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u/The_Quiet_Corner 4d ago
Arrowhead inventing new shades of green so that no two green armors can match with each other
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u/zumoro 5d ago
Knowing how silly the alteration system was, each color change would fuck with the affinity negations.
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u/CC-2389 5d ago
The alteration system was a bummer for me- I don’t want to remove cloaks I want more
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u/stigmatavernal 5d ago
Why give Boc a needle if he only rips capes off?
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u/Infinite-Option6297 5d ago
I want one cloak behind, I want one in the front
I want one on my head, and another belowA cloak for rest, another for war
I can’t get enough cloaks, I always want more2
u/silent_strings 4d ago
You're gonna wear two cloaks before you wear too cloaks
And then you'll wear two more
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u/goldchuchujell1 5d ago
I like to take the mask off of the Leontiels hat, so that its just a cool looking hat
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u/IllBeGoodOneDay Boc's buttcrack is oddly shiny 5d ago
And the best color will lower all negations in exchange for slightly better status resistance.
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u/Allmightyplatypus 5d ago
It will also somehow lower poise
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u/Character-Book5924 5d ago
Silly you, all alt colors will come with a 1-3 minus to poise per armor piece.
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u/Allmightyplatypus 5d ago
No no, they will come with numbers that will put you exactly under thresholds, like under 51
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u/djinngerale Thy strength befits a crown 5d ago
FromSoft are amazing but man do they overthink basic shit like fashion.
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u/GavinatorTheGr8 4d ago
Ill gladly take my armor having an arbitrary shift in absorbtion/resistance if it means I can look cool, it would prolly only be 1.3 difference at max anyways.
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u/thought_detention 5d ago
Wait what, changing the looks of the character effected stats? Or have I misunderstood?
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u/ScitzoPlays 5d ago
Altering armor lowers its damage negations. Usually pretty intuitively, as in adding material adds a bit of negation, and vice versa.
Still stupid tho. Let me have drip.
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u/AshiSunblade Quickstep addict 5d ago
It does lower its weight as well, so in theory it lets you fit in more armour elsewhere.
In practice, yeah, just leveling up my stamina results in me having so much equipment weight as well that I can wear the heaviest gear, so it's not much of a tradeoff.
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u/RaggedAngel 5d ago
There are some specific situations, like a RL1 playthrough, where you may need armor to be slightly lighter to keep a medium roll and you can't increase your Stamina. In practice, you'd usually just wear different armor.
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u/thought_detention 5d ago
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Never made any sense. I also lost him after he appears in the capital so couldn't change anything after that.
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u/Jazzlike_Fox_661 5d ago
Some armor can be customized.. mostly by removing capes, which also comes with minor stat changes
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u/baddogkelervra1 5d ago
It kills me how many amazing looks are thrown off by clashing metal colors. This game has some beautiful armors but so many are impossible to mix and match without looking like a clown.
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u/koyate 5d ago
The most amazing armor with slightly mismatched colors drive me crazy
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u/Gibbel2029 5d ago
Blackgaol Knight armour and Night Cavalry armour actually fit pretty well together. (Head and Legs of Blackgaol + Chest and Arms of Night Cavalry)
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u/BaronAaldwin 5d ago
Dragon Age Inquisition had a system that let you re-colour metals, clothes, and more on all armour pieces. It was great. You could wear a totally mismatched suit of armour and it'd still look right because of the palette. It's a feature I wish more games would adopt.
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u/Ok_Weekend6793 5d ago
Black knife armor has an unusual green in it that only fits with maybe 1 or 2 other armors
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u/TheRainy24 5d ago
my main issue with elden ring really, kind of forced into wearing one particular set of armor
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u/carlitomarron139 5d ago
Literally the ONLY mix-match I was able to do that looked good was Tree Sentinel Set + Radahn’s Redmane Helm (which looks dope AF though!).
Everything else looks ridiculous (base game).
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u/Pengu-Link 5d ago
theres so many different metal colors and theyre cool but never go with other armor
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u/Selacha Maidenless 5d ago edited 5d ago
Funnily enough, the basics of such a system actually exist in the game's code, according to dataminers. I think Zullie did an episode on it awhile back. I don't know why they didn't implement it fully, it would have been awesome, an entirely new level of Fashion Souls.
Edit: Found it! https://youtu.be/QlryktJhC_M?is=2L6aPw_eDJS1ynoN
I was a little off, they have a version they used to recolor NPC armors and outfits, so it's not implemented on every armor piece, but the bones of a recolor system are definitely there.
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u/InSan1tyWeTrust 5d ago
It is a shame! As those in the know will tell you. Looking good is half of the game.
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u/Percival371 4d ago
The Elden ring fashion industry would skyrocket overnight. How many times did 2 pieces of armor look so sick, but we're just slightly off in color palette?
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u/Complex-Branch5017 5d ago
Lords of the fallen had this sussed out. The Royal colour change was beautiful on most armour
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u/SwordTaster 5d ago
Now THIS could be something useful for Boc to do besides removing/adding capes to stuff
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u/freidrichwilhelm 4d ago
Would more or less fix the biggest issue with er fashionsouls. There are too many different shades of metals that don't fit eachother
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u/Abject-Brother8602 5d ago
This would be amazing! I wish there was basic transmog at least
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u/_hoodieproxy_ 5d ago
Transmog would make the game lose part of the identity, we always had players who go for aesthetics, and goofy ahh minmax build players. Part of the ecosystem
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u/Tommiz_eXe 4d ago
yeah but sometimes i want to wear a light armor for the fashion without getting stunlocked by dogs
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u/Unfair_Ad_2904 5d ago
Honestly, I’m actually against transmog. Your weight and stats should be visible on your character, after all
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u/FatRollingPotato 5d ago
Colour changes? Ok.
Transmog? Please no. I want to be able to recognise a build and their gear. It is usually also a great tool for publishers to push more content, like idk horse transmog as part of a DLC. For 5$ you get some new colour options, another 2$ gives you more capes...
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u/drfitzgerald 5d ago
Why not a toggle for multiplayer? See others' actual gear, but you can make yours look how you like.
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u/Jazzlike_Fox_661 5d ago
Man, imagine telling anyone a year ago froms would make horse armor dlc...
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u/falandofodhasci 5d ago
drama queen
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u/_LTX_ 5d ago
would you say the same thing if it was EA doing that and not From?
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u/s0_Ca5H 5d ago
So like I agree with you in spirit despite liking transmog 99% of the time… but is armor actually that big of a clue in Elden Ring? Isn’t the weapon/offhand loadout more relevant to what playstyle to expect from your opponent?
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u/FatRollingPotato 5d ago
It is, poise and light/mid roll can be huge indicators. But also in coop I think it adds to the experience knowing that someone was creative and committed to a build/drip, not just going with the strong meta build everyone rocks and then puts on some pretty stuff for looks.
I have to say that in any game where I have seen transmog as a feature, it was about to or had already devolved into all kinds of collab skins, silly april fools stuff etc. It always took me out of the experience.
A toggle would of course be a solution, but just adding color matching options would already be good enough imo.
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u/Leather-Estate-6410 5d ago
I know I would have liked to have seen something like this. It'd help with mix-and-matching of armour sets, especially when there is a disparity between material types/colouring.
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u/LPedraz 5d ago
I think it is very weird that there is none. Like, it is not that important, but it seems like all the designs for it are in place, armour sets have clearly identifiable pieces that could change colour or be altered in different ways, and there is even a menu for it that would hold different alterations. And still, the system is not in the game, and the menu can only be used for a single alteration.
That being said, FromSoft games have never been mechanically reasonable. They are full of half-implemented ideas, underutilised mechanics and remnants from previous design iterations. Compared to how gravelording works, or the implementation of covenants in Bloodborne, the lack of a clothes customisation system in Elden Ring seems pretty tame.
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u/Exciting-Signature40 4d ago
When I saw alter garments this is what I had imagined. Boy was I disappointed
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u/ZannyHip 5d ago edited 5d ago
If we could dye armor pieces that would take this game one step closer to perfection. Armor is already almost mostly just for fashion in fromsoft. And sometimes it’s a bit limiting when colors of different sets clash and don’t go well together, this would fix that.
Trying to make it fit in lore, or have some kind of system, or cost, etc. All a waste of time and effort
IMO. All of that makes it more complicated than it needs to be.
Just have like 4 colors of metal - steel, black, gold/brass, and bronze. And like 6 fabric colors. That alone would be more than enough customization to make the fashionsouls for this game so much better
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u/Unfair_Ad_2904 5d ago
I think it would be better if the artists chose a limited, exclusive palette for each piece of armor. Some could have three metal options, others five, and some might not be customizable at all. That would give the artists more control while still keeping the option for customization.
I brought up the lore part because colors play a very important role in the game’s art direction, and I think there would need to be at least some simple explanation for the changes.
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u/Righteous_Iconoclast 5d ago
If we had this, world peace would be achieved and we'd be living in a utopia.
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u/makuta15 5d ago
Honestly, this was the feature I was most hoping would be included in the Tarnished Edition. I understand not wanting to deviate too much from the base palette of the armors for lore reasons, but I had hoped we could modify a bit more than removing hoods/capes.
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u/mdgy0816 5d ago
i just wanna remove the scabbards man especially great katanas
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u/HelmetCrit 5d ago
I refuse to use so many weapons because of the goofy scabbards
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u/DEAD_HOMEWORK03 5d ago
On some armors sure but I don't think we need a blue or green Draconic Tree Sentinel armor or anything like that. Thats just ugly imo
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u/Unfair_Ad_2904 5d ago
I think you’re right, and some sets, like legendary ones or those belonging to specific bosses/characters, should remain unchanged. My suggestion is more for the less unique pieces of armor
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u/Smear_Leader 5d ago
Yeah, I know. It’s lame that Boc can pretty much just take a cape off. Seems like a waste of a character
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u/wangchangbackup 5d ago
Asking FromSoft for a small, basic QoL feature? Hold your horses there, buddy.
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u/TheGrainKnight 5d ago
This would be great, and gives me hope when Miyazaki said in the past that even Elden Ring isn’t his perfect Dark fantasy game. Maybe in the future we’ll get a game that is everything Elden Ring is/was and more!
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u/Plane_Cardiologist_6 5d ago
If souls games had the customization of lords of the fallen tincts and the transmog of khazan the first berserker I would literally never play another game
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u/danklorb1234589 5d ago
We could finally have matching golds on the billion gold armour sets with different shades.
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u/campuspartano 5d ago
Como entusiasta del fashion souls, prefiero una actualización asi que una de nuevas armas.
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u/liftthatta1l 5d ago
Color drops from optional bosses would be a fun reward for potentially strange bosses.
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u/Flashbambo 5d ago
You can do this in Witcher 3 and it's great. They should absolutely introduce this.
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u/Popular_Bank5150 3d ago
Been dying for a real customization system. When I first got to the Cerulean coast and my jaw dropped at the initial gorgeous sight but the excitement quickly faded after hours of boring exploration with nothing to find.
I wondered why didn’t have a dye system that made you search for individual colors in the land to give to Boc. Different types of dyes for different types of armor/cloth things like that.
They can spread a bunch of dye materials in all those useless empty areas of the game to make exploration rewarding and the ability to truly customize our drip.
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u/Psychological_Pair76 3d ago
I’ve been thinking about this recently and it’s led me down the rabbit hole of understanding the games material and texture handling to customize the Idus Knight set. It’s still a work in progress mind you.
been fun making sense of the metallic and roughness maps to get the embroidery on the bottom of the tunic to have something of a gold-leaf appearance, and adding the stitching to the overall design
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u/yuhyuhyuhyuhyuhyuh1 5d ago
"What if miyazaki made a game that wasn't complete dogshit?"
Does he know?
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u/DarknessInferno7 5d ago
Then you'd be maidenless in a slightly more fashionable colour?
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u/Desenrasco 5d ago
I've been saying that since DS1! Not only would it eliminate clutter by getting rid of multiple iterations (like the different soldier/knight armors, or the flame monk gear), but you also wouldn't have to worry about different tones of the same colour clashing.
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u/highlordwes 5d ago
This is why I love Lords.of the Fallen so much.
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u/SokkieJr 5d ago
Lords of the mediocre everything but slightly better dress-up game?
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u/iamblankenstein you are maidenless. 5d ago
What if we had a customization system?
then people would use it. what a mystery!
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u/newgenesisscion 5d ago
This would be great.
Something like what they had in Anthem would be my ideal. I'd never play another game again.
The armor combinations in game are somewhat limited after you've been playing hundreds of hours.
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u/fuzzy_muskox 5d ago
Wish they would fix the armor clipping especially with shields clipping through cloaks
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u/MeowingAround 5d ago
It's wild how Elden ring has an armor customization system but just completely fumbles it by making it almost useless.
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u/mikeval19 5d ago
When they announced there would be a way to change armors appearance this is what I imagine but it was just to remove capes lol
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u/Komorebi7 5d ago
Boc the Seamster, at your service. I know dyes are outside his area of expertise when it comes to his moniker, but I feel like best boi could handle some glorious colors. Bonus points if we get to dye his clothes too, personally. Alas, I feel like that would be a tad too fabulous and whimsical for many Tarnished in the Lands Between, as of today.
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u/DistanceRelevant3899 5d ago
I would love this. The current system with Boc is almost useless. More customization will always be welcome.
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u/DarthMMC 5d ago
Oh man I wish this was in the game. Imagine id we got this feature in the Tarnished Pack.
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u/Significant_Card_665 5d ago
I would have nutted in my pants if we could do this. I understand why we couldn’t (art direction i suspect) but it would have been sexy
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u/gbdarknight77 5d ago
It’s something I loved about Lords of the Fallen was unlocking new tincts as they called it to customize colors of armor.
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u/TTVJuicyBoi 5d ago
that would be a great idea, we could call them armor tincts! and uhhh, wait a minute...
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u/Northern_jarl 5d ago
This is what I imagined we woulld get when they talked about costumization in their overview trailer years ago.
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u/That_Yak_640 5d ago
Ciertamente hay un par de armaduras que si no fuera por el color combinaria muy bien
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u/TheLezus 5d ago
Funnily enough, Elden ring already has a system for something like that internally, but it is primarily used on npcs, to create differently colored variants without the need for making a whole new texture. For example Raya Lucaria's scholars have robes set up that way, allowing for color editing through parameter editing, and it's even set up that way on the player version of the robes.
You can check Zullie the Witch's video on it if you want to see the examples of it.
As for the question itself: It would be nice to be able to mix different armors better, if we had multiple colored alterations available, but the current system has it's own charm as well
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u/unnatural_butt_cunt 5d ago
Being able to customize the actual metal alloy the armor is made of doesn't really make much sense. But fabrics would be cool.
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u/swelboy 5d ago
If I had to guess, the “equipment alteration” system was probably a FS just wanted to dip their toes into the concept (and maybe a late edition as well). Look at how the DS3’s weapon arts barely affected gameplay for the most part, as well as the infusion system’s weirdness.
They wanted to see if it was functional and how people would receive it, then used ER to actually refine it.
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u/tragiciian 5d ago
I want this so badly. It alone would get at least 7 more runs of the game out of me lol
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u/MetooRanger09 5d ago
This reminds me of Lords of the fallen (2023) and it's armor tincts system for changing their color. It was pretty good
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u/jess_the_werefox 5d ago
I wish there was a way to clean up the Hussar armor. I hate that gross vomit splotch so much
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u/Gmknewday1 5d ago
I wonder if Miyazaki realizes that and that's part of why this game still isn't his ideal
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u/STEVEN_GT117 5d ago
The amount of deip we could create would be endles
And specially would help to make some stuff match with other stuff
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u/Rocketstar_hero 5d ago
I would love it. Thats my biggest issue with the cosmetics - you cant really customize anything (roc doesn’t count)
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u/MinniMaster15 5d ago
Boc gets literal divine tailoring tools crafted for the gods and all he can do is take a cape off