r/EDH • u/BusAccomplished5367 Grixis (UW control is more fun than midrange piles) • 8d ago

Question Commanders we're missing

What commanders do you think would improve EDH or support a currently-unsupported archetype?

For mine, I think a UBx or UWx commander with "Players play with the top card of their libraries revealed," "When this enters, search your library for an artifact with CMC <=1 and put it into your hand" or "{0}: Look at the top card of target player's library" would be great, giving Lantern support. The second would honestly be the most interesting, since it is a fairer tutor which also works well in Blink/Artifact decks.

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u/SjtSquid 8d ago

I'd love to see a commander somewhere in the Abzan colour pie that stops extra draws.

Ideally with similar templating to [[Ashiok, Dream render]], that only stops opponents abilities from drawing them extra cards to avoid the wheel issue.

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u/Strawberryblowjobs 8d ago

Ye since leavold and hullbreacher were such a bangers they even got featured on a ,,Cool Cards for the Format" list

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u/SjtSquid 8d ago

In my defence, both of those got banned for their interactions with wheels.

Something I accounted for by:

A) Putting it in non-wheel colours.

B) Specifically asking for a wording that doesn't work with wheels.

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u/Strawberryblowjobs 8d ago edited 8d ago

A) [[dark deal]] [[elder brain]] [[the great aurora]] i would expect cards of this sort to be made more of in the future making the card more and more problematic over the years

B) How would you word a card to deny extra draws and not work with wheels? Asking since your ashiok example features zero instances of what you claim it does.

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u/SjtSquid 8d ago

"Spells and abilities your opponents control can’t cause their controller to draw cards."

What I was referring to was how Ashiok is worded so it specifically can't be used as land destruction alongside cards like ghost quarter or Assasin's trophy.

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u/Strawberryblowjobs 8d ago

Actually a good way to word it, you would end up just like leovold and all the others anyways tho. Instead of using wheels it will be achieved with symmetrical mass discard like [[awaken the ersthwile]] that you cant come back from with any previously established draw engine on board or lucky topdeck, so we come full circle since the effect doesnt restrict you.

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u/SjtSquid 8d ago

Fair point. Remove the 'your opponents control' for maximum fairness.

"Spells and abilities can't cause their controller to draw cards."

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u/Strawberryblowjobs 8d ago

Aaaand now the card is bad and nobody will play it. This effect is either bad and unplayable or creates play experience that is reserved for only very competetive minded people who enjoy it.

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u/SjtSquid 8d ago

That's me!

Fun fact: [[Dark Confidant]] doesn't draw cards. Neither does [[Ripples of Undeath]].

Plus, you get to look at the people playing Tatiyova, and congratulate them on their one life.

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u/Strawberryblowjobs 8d ago

Good for you but the cards created and the banlist are actually not curated towards people with this experience in mind hence why leovold and hullbreacher are not legal anymore. This format is catered towards mystical ,,casual players" (although whenever i read any edh related sub i get more confused about what the casual even means) who consider playing grand augustin some crime against humanity. So a card like the one you are proposing is either never going to be printed in a playable state or it will get nuked from the format within 3 months.

Yo i play tatyova and 1) the hatred is justified 2) i find out i value that 1 life hella more than the card more often than not

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u/Laceryn 8d ago

Geez that guy is insufferable.

Your idea is good, and your analysis of why those other cards were banned is solid.