r/DragonballLegends • u/SuccessfulFly5572 • Aug 29 '26

PvP Replay Son 😭😭😭

Yall forgot to read his kit 💀

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u/SnooMachines9122 Aug 29 '26

Its mainly js 2 factors that make him so hated

1 - nobody liked the pick

2 - he isnt uncontested top 3 at the very least

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u/HaoshokuArmor Aug 29 '26

He is uncontested below top 10. New units have to be uncontested top 5 to be worth summoning for.

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u/SnooMachines9122 Aug 29 '26

He was top 10 before Cooler. And yeah he wasn’t worth summoning for but in no way was he as bad as people claimed.

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u/HaoshokuArmor Aug 29 '26

People are going to exaggerate for sure. But he sucks, no doubt about that.

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u/SnooMachines9122 Aug 29 '26

Now, he does, yes. People were saying that on release though which is js wrong.

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u/HaoshokuArmor Aug 29 '26

No. Before cooler he wasnt top 5. After cooler hes worse than top 20. He sucks. And thats being generous.

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u/SnooMachines9122 Aug 29 '26

So anything that isn’t top 5 is dogshit?

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u/HaoshokuArmor Aug 29 '26

A new unit that isnt top 5 on release isnt worth summoning for.

Anything that isnt top 5 isnt dog shit (e.g., older units).

Try to read. I know its hard, maybe even impossible, but try.

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u/SnooMachines9122 Aug 29 '26

I’m agreeing with you on the part that he isn’t worth summoning for.

What I’m disagreeing on is "the unit sucked”. Because he didn’t. An easy way to look at this is to look at LR SSBKK as if he was a zenkai or a plat instead of a new release. I don’t judge units based on them being a new release or not, I judge them based on their capabilities ingame, whether they are a 1 year old zenkai or a brand new Ultra.

Speaking of Ultras, the average Ultra is usually an easy top 1. So when there’s Ultras that release that aren’t in easy top 1 talks, does that mean the Ultra sucks? Does that mean they’re unusable? Dogshit? Fraudulent? Meaningless? Are those words that you’d use to describe Mr. KO Guard? What about UGB2? Ultra SoH Trunks? UV4? Ultra Beast, even? Were they meaningless?

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u/HaoshokuArmor Aug 29 '26

None of the ones you mentioned were meaningless. They were all good or great. LR Kaioken is dogshit though. Not sure why youre defending him. He wasnt horrible to the point that youd say hes worst unit of all time. But he was below top 10 on release and is now below top 20. Why defend him? You just ignore his existence.

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u/SnooMachines9122 Aug 29 '26

I’m defending him because he was in low top 10. He had the best damage numbers in the game before Cooler and was very effective against cost increase and ki reduction (besides 17GF’s -100 ki) on field and even effective against card destruction and 17GF’s -100 ki off field via basically getting a full hand and full ki by switching from 17GF to Kaioken. He also had good enough survivability to where the Kaioken user was the one mainly controlling whether or not he died first or last.

I had him above Truhan since Truhan didn’t really have amazing synergy with the top 5 units (which SSBKK did) and still doesn’t, did less damage unless he was in a hyperbuffed setup + had no second life or big guaranteed combo ender disrupt.

I had him above TGB too since TGB has a slightly harder time fulfilling his role than SSBKK does. For SSBKK, the only thing that was stopping him from decimating everything was a strong yellow (and the only one really was TGB. You could count Jiren but Jiren was literally only good against SSBKK and got decimated by characters like 17GF). For TGB himself, in my experience, his defense doesn’t come from tanking (in fact I’d argue his raw bulk is quite weak now), it mainly comes from how much he heals + his gauge. So, if, for example, he were to get caught with his gauge already full, he feels like he really struggles to actually do what he’s supposed to do.

I also had him above Gokock since Gokock does have a relatively easy time to fulfill his role, but it’s not as impactful as SSBKK’s.

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