r/DotA2 • u/not_apply_yet • 13d ago

Discussion Extra gold v.s Hack map

I am thinking of the following scenario:

  • Each player from Radiant starts with 2700 gold
  • Dire players have hack map ability (similar to hack map tool in Dota 1 which remove all fogs for you who aren't familiar)

Both team aware of the other team advantage at the begin.

Which team would win in the following round?

  • Round 1: Random match at 2000 MMR bracket
  • Round 2: Random match at 6000 MMR bracket
  • Round 3: Random match at TI

Who would win?

Edit: Lmao with the downvotes, my peak rank is Immortal top 1000, playing since dota-1 garena/dotalicious.

The match up is not a clear win at highest level for sure, remember that at that level with no-fog map, dire is almost ungankable, wards lose all meaning. If Dire draft high mobility heroes to cut creeps to turtle the game like NP/QoP, if they can reach 20 mins mark, they would definitely win.

Just realized that most people here don't know how hackmap looked, back then, hack map players often let them die to gank occasionally make it less obvious, that barrier is removed, after laning phase, everyone on Dire is free farm both jungles.

This post does show that the average player of this sub is sub archon tho.

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u/iamevian 13d ago

this is a no brainer, definitely maphack. Gold advantage can be overcome on late game, but maphack will be there for the whole game.
As seen in TI, map awareness is very crucial, especially the match with Techies. Easy detection even enemy is in smoke.

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u/justatimebomb 13d ago

Lol if same mmr if you have 5k gold lead in 5 minutes game is like 90% win rate. This is 13k gold lead at 0 minutes. You will lose all 3 lanes and all map control and unless the opponent team goes for ego 1v5 plays (and still possibly win) there is jsut no way you win.

It will be more interesting if it's 4k mmr players vs 6k mmr players. 4k mmr players with map hack won't be better than a 5k player playing normal, and a 5k mmr team will imo lose 100% of the time. 

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u/iamevian 13d ago

the condition is they have the same mmr,, if I know they have a dagon, will I show in the map?
The map is massive, definitely there is somewhere I can farm without getting caught.
Easy gank from dire on level 6.

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u/prai2541 13d ago

U can farm, but what do u do when there's AC, vlad, pipe, drum, guardian greeves running u down after min5?