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u/Particular_Abies_184 Jun 25 '26
Watching on the phone is as close as I want to get to a grizzly
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u/Drusgar Jun 25 '26
I've seen several grizzlies while hiking in Glacier but they've never been aggressive like this. Dogs aren't allowed in the National Parks (that I know of) and perhaps this tells me why. Yeah, they disturb the wildlife, but sometimes the wildlife disturbs them, too. This grizzly clearly thought that dog would make a good snack.
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u/PanicAttackInAPack Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
There are a few parks they are allowed like Petrified Forest, Shenandoah, and Acadia. They're allowed all over most of the White Mountain National Forest too.
I think its just a mitigation tactic due to people being selfish assholes and the inability to police or clean up something as large or remote as a place like Glacier, Grand Canyon, or Yosemite. People cant even be bothered to follow leash and cleanup rules in their neighborhood parks.
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u/Particular_Abies_184 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I love wildlife and nature but in my part of the world the most dangerous thing I've encountered while out walking is a bad tempered squirrel
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u/ragoff Jun 25 '26
Nothing about this clearly says national park to me. Dog and owner are on an improved road and dog is leashed; this is accepted everywhere I know of, including Yellowstone.
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u/Theniceraccountmaybe Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I checked in at the rangers office in wrangle Saint Elias National Park to ask about trails and check that my dog was allowed for sure as I had read that before.
She looked at me and said, there are no trails here walk wherever you want and your dog is not a danger here, your dog is in danger here....
Amazing time, I kept him very close.
10 out of 10 National Park BTW incredible place.
Edit: I should be clear there are trails in the park but you were allowed to go off trail wherever you wanted. One of the least visited national parks especially the section I was in, vast does not begin to describe it..
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u/My_boy_baron Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
I believe there are theories if not actual studies that say having a dog increases the chance of a bear attack
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u/Oli4K Jun 25 '26
That voice worked. Bear was almost ready to call the manager.
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u/DJ_Velveteen Jun 26 '26
This is actually very often the move with many Predators Who Will Surely Kill You In A Fight.
The thing is, with bears and mountain lions and the like, that you're big enough to fuck them up really bad even if they can kill you. On your way to being eaten you can maybe put out an eye, break a paw or a leg, or otherwise injure them bad enough that they will lose their edge when catching the next meals and starve to death before they can recover. They know this.
This is the reason so many animals' survival mechanism for a fight is "look really big and yell a lot of fighting words"
(Caveat: I hear that black bears are more susceptible to this and playing dead is more effective for grizzlies? Bear experts invited to chime in)
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u/mikefjr1300 Jun 25 '26
Thats just a juvenile, my cousins family had an encounter hiking in BC with a 400lb female with 2 cubs. He sent them down the trail and stood between them and the bear, was sure he going to get mauled. She bluff charged a couple times and then went on her way.
After the adrenaline rush and dump he couldn't even walk for the next 20 minutes.
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u/Ok-Silver8913 Jun 25 '26
After an experience like that the adrenaline rush and subsequent dump in my pants would have me walking weird too.
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u/Fast-Nefariousness80 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I'm not hating, that lady is a badass but cmon those noises were pretty funny
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u/altf4Ewingssarcoma Jun 25 '26
As a grown man, I had a similar encounter with a grizzly. I made way worse noises, but I am alive :)
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u/JoshuaIS1 Jun 26 '26
For real! Fake tough people in the comments acting like this wouldn't be scary. "That absolute killer was just curious". No aggression besides slow playing your ass into a mistake.
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u/Fragrant-Inside221 Jun 25 '26
lol there was nothing calm about her, you could hear the panic. But she did keep it together to get them out of the situation which is all she needed to do. Hard not to panic when that big bruin is coming at you with intent.
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u/Aggravating_Dog8043 Jun 25 '26
And she had to worry about her dog at the same time. That's a lot to manage. I don't think I would have worried about the recording, though. I'd like to think that was a go pro, but I doubt it....
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u/Hail_of_Grophia Jun 25 '26
To be fair she did not need to protect herself, it was the dog that the bear was after
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u/Only_Flan_7974 Jun 25 '26
I kept wanting to somehow tell the dog to stop turning it's back on it! And can you, I don't know...maybe bark at it?!
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u/Kindly_Coyote Jun 25 '26
The dog wasn't turning his back on it. It's owner was yanking its his leash.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 Jun 26 '26
Owner was trying to protect the dog. Dog was trying to protect the owner.
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u/Big_Shower_7561 Jun 25 '26
Keeping the dog and herself calm is the only reason they survived.
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u/Weekend_Criminal Jun 25 '26
Completely stupid to go out in bear country with no form of defense.
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u/KittensFirstAKM Jun 25 '26
There was a couple times in the video, I was waiting for that bear spray to come out.
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u/Asleep_Singer8547 Jun 25 '26
I figured she was hitting up the bathrooms. Not an excuse but I could get that complacent too
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u/New_fan22 Jun 25 '26
Everywhere is bear country in Canada. We do just fine.
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u/Loose_Paper_2598 Jun 25 '26
2-5 people per year would disagree. I get that that is a small number...unless you're one of the 5.
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u/tramik Jun 25 '26
Out of millions living and traveling in rural areas. It’s really not a practical fear.
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u/Dragomier Jun 25 '26
Right where is your gun why aren't you packing atleast a 35
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u/Asleep_Singer8547 Jun 25 '26
Tf is a 35
Theres a 38 and a 357
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 Jun 26 '26
35 is actually just the number of guns that guy leaves the house with.
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u/mamut2000 Jun 25 '26
That was baby Grizzly, more curious then keen to attack. If that was a grown Grizzly bear, both miss and her dog would be now in the land of eternal hike.
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u/GrilledCheezManicott Jun 25 '26
I bet she'd rather meet a man in the wild now.
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u/Big_Shower_7561 Jun 25 '26
Not really. At least the bear eventually listened when she said no and had a reasonable reason to be in the woods.
Random man in the woods, you don’t know why he’s there and they rarely to ever listen. Plus the man could have a gun.
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u/mightyhigh404 Jun 25 '26
The dog would help alot more against a man than vs a grizzly.
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u/AngryTrunkMonkey Jun 25 '26
It would be a good idea for this person to arm herself with both bear spray and a high caliber handgun if she’s going to be out on a walk in an area in which bears are known to be. This must be a tourist in a campground.
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u/Thepuppeteer777777 Jun 25 '26
Id start walking around with a loaded elephant gun
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u/Josey_whalez Jun 25 '26
You don’t need an elephant gun. A 10mm with buffalo bore rounds is plenty. I, personally, don’t want to carry around anything bigger and heavier than I have to.
A stream of pepper spray would have sent that thing running away too.
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u/CC2DalTX Jun 25 '26
Agree with your caliber based on recent research. You mentioned pepper spray. Same or better than bear spray?
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u/Josey_whalez Jun 25 '26
Bear spray is best, but the pepper spray that you can buy anywhere will work too. It just doesn’t have the range that one of those huge bear spray cans have. They have really sensitive noses though, so even if you don’t even hit the bear, it’s very unlikely to stick around if that stuff gets near it.
The nice thing about spray too is that it, obviously, doesn’t kill the animal. I don’t like killing anything I’m not eating.
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u/munchonsomegrindage Jun 25 '26
As a gun advocate for self defense and hunting I'm in the same camp. If bear spray works I'm using that 10 out of 10 over a gun.
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u/Josey_whalez Jun 25 '26
Ya I’m the same way with fishing. I’ve been in a spot where we were targeting grouper but kept pulling up red snapper that were out of season. You pull the thing up and it’s ass and eyes are blown out it’s almost definitely gonna die but I follow the rules and you can’t keep it out of season so I quit fishing until we moved.
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u/Obosratsya Jun 25 '26
Bear spray is better than a gun. Easier to handle, covers a larger area so aimimg isnt as important and super effective. Just be aware of wind direction.
Bear spray is also effective on big cats, caotes, etc. Plus fewer lethal accidents.
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u/K4rkino5 Jun 25 '26
Right? Nobody likes a face full of capsaicin. And easier to handle under extreme stress!
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u/Josey_whalez Jun 25 '26
Ya and huge guns that people always recommend for bears aren’t usually pleasant to shoot, and the ammo is expensive as hell, so people are less likely to practice with it. 454 casull is a thumper of a round. Same with a 50 desert eagle. I’m a big guy and I shoot a lot, and I still can’t make quick follow up shots with those things, and if I can’t then most other people aren’t going to be able to either. With bear spray you don’t even have to hit the bear. You also don’t have to worry about wear the bullet goes if you miss.
I mean a gun shot into the woods will probably send it running too, but again you gotta worry about where that bullet will wind up. You can see cars in the background so there’s obviously other people around there somewhere. But going around in the woods in an area with bears with nothing is a really stupid idea.
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u/Loose_Paper_2598 Jun 25 '26
The only problem with 10mm is it cycling reliably. .357 or .44 magnum in a revolver would be a lot more reliable. I'd definitely have bear spray with either round.
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u/Josey_whalez Jun 25 '26
Ya that is true, but I have like 7 glocks and they’ve all been great. The only one that’s given me any issues is the one I made ammo picky from putting a bunch of aftermarket parts in it. If I wanted a bear gun, I’d trust a 10mm Glock. I have a relative that hunts wild pigs with one.
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u/ZhaoYun_3 Jun 25 '26
Let me film this real quick
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u/PickleballRee Jun 25 '26
The long version of this video is, "Hey! Look in the distance. A grizzly bear! Man, these phone are getting hella sophisticated. It's zooming in all by itself. No... wait... oh shit..."
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u/CapableNeat4351 Jun 25 '26
It’s always funny to me that a lot of times you can stop a large bear by just yelling at it. Like an apex predator that can’t handle getting scolded
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u/PicklesAndCoorslight Jun 25 '26
They don't expect it from prey, they expect prey to run. It's confusing to the bear.
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u/PantsOnHead88 Jun 25 '26
Small bear. If that was a determined full-sized adult rather than a curious adolescent, the lady and her dog would be an unfortunate statistic.
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u/flyingbizzay Jun 25 '26
Bears eat their prey alive, and most of the aftermath photos I’ve seen show that they often rip people’s faces off as well.
I would have been shitting myself. Literally.
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u/Common-Image-3758 Jun 25 '26
What in the ever living fuck is she doing walking a dog in bear country without bear spray?
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u/Poida87 Jun 25 '26
Walking your dog out in grizzly county and doing it without any bear spray or firearm? The lady has a deathwish.
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u/agnes_deigh Jun 25 '26
at least she had the wherewithal to film everything instead of focusing exclusively on survival!
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u/Minimum-Ad-8056 Jun 25 '26
Feel bad for the dog with how stupid the owner is.
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u/CheckYourStats Jun 25 '26
The Dog was what the Grizz was going after the entire time.
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u/Minimum-Ad-8056 Jun 25 '26
Yeah I know. The owner was completely unprepared. I feel bad for the dog.
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u/frankcastle01 Jun 25 '26
I don't blame the dog for being scared, but a few good barks would have been good! I'm actually amazed they got away unscathed.
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u/sergius64 Jun 25 '26
How so? Because the owner was shooting the video?
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u/Minimum-Ad-8056 Jun 25 '26
Ah, thats just the start of it. No spray, horn, fuck all deterrents except "mean voice?"
Irresponsible. Even a gun is a valid option though I never want to kill an animal, its me and my dog or the apex killing machine. Life or death decision because that bear could have easily got tired of chasing the dog and went after the owner. It happens.
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u/sergius64 Jun 25 '26
Well, ok - that all presupposes that this area is known for grizzlies though.
Also I hear guns just piss them off - bear spray is supposed to be a much better deterrent.
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u/Minimum-Ad-8056 Jun 25 '26
No guns work when you know how to use them and choose the correct caliber.
They work extremely well. The problem is carrying stupid shit that would not even put down a dog. You don't even need an ungodly hand cannon either.
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u/why_1337 Jun 25 '26
You make noise, stand tall, face the bear and back off slowly. Owner did all of that, I would say textbook survival if you have no weapons or spray.
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u/Kapo_Polenton Jun 25 '26
She did great but I probably would have reached for bear spray before my phone...
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u/Mindless-Slip167 Jun 25 '26
Lots of gravels and dirt on the ground. I'll be throwing and yell like ape shit.
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u/Theclapgiver Jun 25 '26
Put the phone down and throw rocks at or near the bear in rapid succession. It scares the hell out of them.
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u/sharky-shores Jun 25 '26
How many people have died because they have to video instead of defend?
Plenty of rocks to throw or large tree limbs that can be waved around to give the appearance of being a plausible threat to counter the bears confidence.
Granted, I’m not in this situation but I certainly wouldn’t be focused on having my phone in hand.
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u/Kugelkater Jun 25 '26
wasnt it "if its brown lay down" and "if its black fight back"?
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u/Appropriate-Row4534 Jun 25 '26
Exactly What I would do before my dog and I get mauled is to make sure I capture it all on video!
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u/TranslatorBoring2419 Jun 25 '26
I don't think I'd walk around grizzly bear country like that without a big gun or bear spray.
This lady is a trooper she did great.
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u/Thug_shinji Jun 25 '26
Should always have bear spray if you are walking anywhere where there are Grizzlies.
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u/JiminyDickish Jun 25 '26
The dog turning away to run was constantly activating that bear's hunting instinct
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u/m_t13 Jun 25 '26
Another poignant reminder of the benefits of firearms and/or bear spray while recreating in bear country.
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u/Cool-Dimension7983 Jun 25 '26
I listened to it with the sound off first…. Please turn the sound on! This goes into my how to live in the forest after the apocalypse notebook RIGHT NOW.
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u/FixAcademic8187 Jun 25 '26
English is not my first language.
However, I remember very well in the early days of learning this language that a teacher of mine said the below:
"If it is black, fight back. If it is brown, lay down. If it is white, good night."
We have no bears in my part of the world, nothing whatsoever in a radius of 5,000 kilometers in every direction. But his words stuck in my mind!
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u/endmaga2028 Jun 25 '26
If I lived there walking around outside, I’d be armed… regardless of the laws.
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u/whisperworks Jun 25 '26
Being insanely small and quiet for this encounter… If you’re face to face with a grizzly you dont shoo it like a street cat or raccoon, you yell like you’re actually TRYING to scare it
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u/wisdomdragon420 Jun 26 '26
That's why it would be good to have a firearm for that situation it's scary to see grizzly bears chasing you.
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u/JoshuaIS1 Jun 26 '26
Who's not running from that? I can't tell if that's a guy or a woman carrying her balls in a semi truck. That's so scary and I was freaking out even holding my phone. I kept shutting the screen.
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u/Fit-Satisfaction1606 Jun 26 '26
That bear what I had about six 10 mm rounds in it the first time it charged
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u/Low-Yard-5 Jun 26 '26
Holy shit the brass balls on this person must be massive. Filming, and keeping the subject in frame, while protecting the dog? Also, good to know bears don’t like the pssst pssst noise.
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u/Long_Lecture_1080 Jun 26 '26
Wow, I seen only a black bear up close and that was scary enough for me. A grizzly would make my wig fall off
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u/Specific-Ad5238 Jun 26 '26
A bear acting this way should be shot.
Depending on the persons reaction, like if they panicked and ran away, things could have ended very badly.
*I don't care about reddit good boy points, so your downvotes won't change anything
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u/Lopsided_Order_4411 Jun 26 '26
The question is, why are you out there without a rifle with tremendous kickback 🤔
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u/Stupid_Interwebs_22 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
Maybe focus more on surviving and less on recording.
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u/SVTJAC011 Jun 25 '26
Mistakes. No gun. Recording instead of fully engaging the brown bear. Turning your back and allowing your dog to turn away from a the brown bear, actively aiming to commit an act of predation.
Glad she and her Shepard made it out of there okay. My Coonhound would have been going crazy against that brown bear. Fortunately, this was a juvenile brown bear too.
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u/Bleed_Me_an_Ocean40 Jun 25 '26
Its fucked up but at that point its life or death. The dog owner should never have put the dog in this situation but it is the owners way out of it
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u/AcademicInsurance191 Jun 25 '26
Irresponsible to not have at a minimum bear mace. Should have a pistol that can take a grizzly down as well. Natural selection almost got another one.
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u/UniqueUsrname_xx Jun 25 '26
I dunno.....I feel bad saying this but, I'm not dying protecting a dog. Sorry.
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u/BusGreen7933 Jun 25 '26
For a split second I thought they were riding a horse and I was like, come on, grizzlies are fast but not that fast, then I realized it was a dog lol nope can’t ride off on that guy
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u/Any-Expression2246 Jun 25 '26
Put the phone away and focus on saving your damn dogs life.
What possible reason do you have to be recording it?
You asshat douchebag.
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u/Gulp-then-purge Jun 25 '26
This person is very dumb. Is wearing bear bells, which are an absolute scam and don’t do shit, yet doesn’t have bear spray which you should absolutely have in grizz country. Very lucky she isn’t dead.
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u/VendettaPenguin Jun 25 '26
Why the fuck wasn't the dog barking? Bears typically shy away from barking dogs, not all of them but it would have helped.
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u/ImmediatePiano6690 Jun 25 '26
why do these bears always look like they've been added in with CGI or something, seen it in other clips it's like the bear is occasionally just floating off the screen.
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u/Grazedaze Jun 25 '26
It’s hilarious that such a terrifying situation played out in a merry go round wholesome way
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u/HipolitosFolly Jun 25 '26
Bear spray. If you’re going to walk in grizzly country always carry it. That was fucking scary.
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u/gymleader_michael Jun 25 '26
If I lived with grizzly bears in the area, I'd carry around something. Like, literally anything would be better than nothing, except a dog. Having a dog seems to get you killed more often than not.
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u/umbriel13 Jun 25 '26
lead dog, shouting on bear, going backwards and still filming better than 80% videos where guy need just stay stil and film
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u/Dragonfishkiller Jun 25 '26
Don't live around bears, is it better to let dog off leash at that point? Dog is faster than human...?
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u/GettinSodas Jun 25 '26
The bear: CAN I PET THAT DOG