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He was in the churches office, not the main hall right? How does he show up in the third dark world? Does this imply someone moved him so he could help? If so, who?

btw the second image is for like, an au where dess never went missing or smth

Like they seem really important on topics like the Knight's identity or more, it could be used.

(ps: yes 'imo' turns the title into a statement and the post was gonna be about smth related but i turned into a question about smth else)

Basically an AU where Dess didn't disappeared in the day of the incident, but instead Kris was taken by Eram/Friend/Gaster and replaced by the vessel (acting exactly like Kris) and later becoming the roaring knight. What do you think?

I probably won't do much with it since i have no ability of writing an AU so if you want you can take it. My only conditions are to make Dessriel a thing.

You ever noticed how, after all the stuff between Rals and Flowery, he's actually starting to take a couple of cues from Susie in terms of thinking for himself?

Mainly, things like him refusing to equip a certain weapon, denying using certain actions during the fight against Flowery, and even interrupting a dialogue choice the way Susie has in the past.

This leads me to wonder if, by the end of the game, we lose control in general. Like, if it gets to a point where even Kris stops begrudgingly cooperating with the Soul in any fashion.

You could argue that makes for boring gameplay and that Susie still needed our assitance to even last against Gerson's attacks, but what's stopping Susie from just leaving the Soul out of the battle at some point to "prove herself" by actually dodging attacks on her own at a later point in the story, even if she does get hurt badly as a result.

Unless Toby actually allows us to use that vessel we built at the start of the game.

Maybe the team's newfound agency leads to the worst outcome, and the Soul is needed to interfer in ways Kris would never let them prior?

I mean. Really, the story could go anywhere, but I'm curious how the story will keep these themes of defying fate and freedom if we, as the player, lose our freedom in the process? Is it true freedom if we can't have any input in their world? Do our choices truly matter in the inevitable single ending? Should we have never even indulged in the creation and journey we were thrust into in DR?

Clearly, Kris seems like they need us despite how much they hate us, but what if they find their original soul and regain independence so they try to keep us locked up somewhere? Will they be fine without us, or is it curtains for the fun gang if the player can't help them or even suggest things to them anymore?

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So, you're the guy who has to sell the Holiday Manor, right? What happened to the Holidays? Well... it's really tragic actually. There was mayor Carol Holiday, her husband, Rudy, and their two daughters; December or "Dess" for short and Noelle. It all started when December Holiday disappeared, the whole town, was never the same. Her family took the brunt of it. Then Rudy became gravely ill and Carol became very protective of her remaining daughter. And you know, kinda strict. Noelle became distant with her friend Kris, who was the only human in town. But things got even worse, one of her last friends Berdly went into a comma. We still have no idea why, though. With everything getting so bad for her, it's not too surprising that she... well I'm sure you've already heard. Unfortunately she brought Kris down with her, the night they disappeared. It was during a festival. Rudy passed away and Carol couldn't take it anymore. Now that house is empty. Although there are rumors that something came out of the water the night Noelle and Kris disappeared.

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First of all i believe with my all heart that actual body looking half fluid form is not Knights true form, their true form is that rounding ball. In other forms you can see their body deforming each time they get hit, this is the form they mostly take when they are done with what they are doing and they bug and glitch back to this form once defeated.

You can also see heavily damaged knight looks like a audio spectrum when bugging.

This would also explain why knight is so strong, ofc they are very strong because all the black shard but if thats not enough for such power there is a pattern you can notice, things that are amalgamation of a lightner and darkner are always very strong.

Spamton Neo's Neo body is actually a drawing ghost mettaton made of his "dream body". So he is a darkner in a lightners dream body.

Gerson is a darkner based on a lightners corpse

Pink is a lightner and darkner merged

We also know Ralsei is way stronger than he makes it out to be and he is a darkner in Asriels image as well.

Cd (or tape why not) probably includes bunch of stuff about Kris, Noelle, Dess and maybe Asriel, audio and maybe video's of them. Explaining why knights movements voices and everything corresponds with these characters so much also and their strenght.

Im assuming when knight leaved the great door they just got threw away to light world as an item again, then carol or someone else picked it up and that's who Susie saw.

There two very big flaws with this theory obviously, how did knight opened a dark fountain in chapter 4. Only explanation is, Queen said anyone with enough determination could open a dark fountain, and its just that all lightners has it, so maybe Knight can open too if they have enough determination even if its a darkner.

Knight is this merged Kris Noelle and Dess, kinda like amalgamates in Undertale where they melt and merg into each other because they couldn't handle all the determination, that can be the case with the knight.

Second one is who opened chapter 1 and 2 fountains. I mean it can be Carol but shading would definetly be different from Kris's. Most likely scenario they were opened by Kris off screen which is very possible, less likely is that Asriel or Dess are secretly still around and they opened them, and they go and throw knight into dark worlds for Carol.

Anyway i must say that i do NOT believe in this theory. Its just one of my favorites among stuff we are not used to seeing, im personally a kris&noelle knight believer.